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September 27, 2008, 11:37 pm PDT

10/03 "Brainwashed by My Parents"

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One thing I NEVER did was bad-mouth their father to them, near them or even at all! It serves NO PURPOSE except to harm your own credibility!

 

I always figured it this way. I laid down and made these children and obvious I didn't do that alone.

So there was some 'attraction' or something for that to happen.

 

Why would I EVER let what might be my own personal opinion, harm the relationship between my daughters and their father.

 

I raised my daughters to be SMART and to make their own decisions and have their own opinions.

 

I figured that sooner or later they would draw their OWN conclusions without ANY input from me.

 

When my ex was over 7K in child support arrears and wanted to visit.......he visited regardless of my bank account.

I took care of my children very well WITHOUT that money and those girls saw me work 3 jobs for many years to take care of them.

 

I wasn't going to let a few dollars stand between my daughters relationship with their father!!

 

Fast forward, I have 2 mid-twenty year old daughters who have formed their OWN OPINION about their father. It isn't positive but HE did that on his OWN and I did NOT have to get involved!

 

Thankfully me and the ex were FRIENDS first and friends third.  We've always been able to talk to each other rationally.

 

I always thought that the MORE PEOPLE that LOVED a child the better off that child would be. Their relationship can be (and should be) a separate entity.

Thankfully I was able to do that for my daughters! They do appreciate the way they were raised as they have thanked me many times.

 

BTW, my ex hung himself with his behavior and now he has no contact with the kids. SAD FOR HIM!!

I try really hard to not bad mouth my son's dad.  Sometimes it does slip out.  However, my son is growing up and is realizing his dad's problems on his own.  He knows his dad has anger problems and is a recovering drug addict.  After all, he goes to the Kid allowed NA meetings.  I have mixed feelings on that one.  Maybe my son will learn from everyone elses's screwed up life to stay far away from drugs.  He knows his dad only owns to his name...two messed up cars and nothing else.  Here however, we have cars, own our home, he gets well feed daily.  He doesnt alway know if he'll eat at his dad's so I always ask before I take him over if he has power and food. Sad isn't it. 
But my son sees it for himself and I (unless I just simply lose it w/a panic attack) do not bad mouth his dad, because he is his dad and loves him anyway.
 
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September 28, 2008, 4:08 pm PDT

letting my son find out for himself

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One thing I NEVER did was bad-mouth their father to them, near them or even at all! It serves NO PURPOSE except to harm your own credibility!

 

I always figured it this way. I laid down and made these children and obvious I didn't do that alone.

So there was some 'attraction' or something for that to happen.

 

Why would I EVER let what might be my own personal opinion, harm the relationship between my daughters and their father.

 

I raised my daughters to be SMART and to make their own decisions and have their own opinions.

 

I figured that sooner or later they would draw their OWN conclusions without ANY input from me.

 

When my ex was over 7K in child support arrears and wanted to visit.......he visited regardless of my bank account.

I took care of my children very well WITHOUT that money and those girls saw me work 3 jobs for many years to take care of them.

 

I wasn't going to let a few dollars stand between my daughters relationship with their father!!

 

Fast forward, I have 2 mid-twenty year old daughters who have formed their OWN OPINION about their father. It isn't positive but HE did that on his OWN and I did NOT have to get involved!

 

Thankfully me and the ex were FRIENDS first and friends third.  We've always been able to talk to each other rationally.

 

I always thought that the MORE PEOPLE that LOVED a child the better off that child would be. Their relationship can be (and should be) a separate entity.

Thankfully I was able to do that for my daughters! They do appreciate the way they were raised as they have thanked me many times.

 

BTW, my ex hung himself with his behavior and now he has no contact with the kids. SAD FOR HIM!!

My son's father & I divorced when my son was 2 (my son is 18) because he would not get a job to support his family he was always the one that screw the system and got away with it -when he left he left me for another women I told him I didn't care about his personal life, he had a responsibility to our son. 

When my son was 13 he wanted to live my his father I was apprehensive but my son did not know his father as I did because I protected him  from that-His father and wife (the women he left me for) used my son and made mine & my boyfriend (I have since married him) life a living hell.

 I fought for 2 yrs to get my son back. They (my x & his wife) had the financial means to hire a attorney, I didn't. Judges do not like it when you represent yourself. My x commited perjury and forged documents and was going to have me sent to jail. I asked the judge for a 5dy repreive so I can prove he lied. I did prove it and he was not held accountable. I finally received back custody of my son (he was 15) but he was  mentally and emotional abused.

 My son had a breakdown and was hopitalized twice. I later found out that while my son was living with his father the FBI raided the house because he was part of an oxycotin rings and spent some time in jail. I ask one question over and over why didn't let our son come home instead of allowing him to witness this. 

My son missed so much of scholl he dropped out but receive his GED and instead of a senior in HS he is a freshman in college studying Criminal Justice he wants to be a policeman so one day he could arrest his father. I stil do not badmouth his father unfortunately he found out for himself  

 
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October 3, 2008, 3:58 pm PDT

10/03 "Brainwashed by My Parents"

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One thing I NEVER did was bad-mouth their father to them, near them or even at all! It serves NO PURPOSE except to harm your own credibility!

 

I always figured it this way. I laid down and made these children and obvious I didn't do that alone.

So there was some 'attraction' or something for that to happen.

 

Why would I EVER let what might be my own personal opinion, harm the relationship between my daughters and their father.

 

I raised my daughters to be SMART and to make their own decisions and have their own opinions.

 

I figured that sooner or later they would draw their OWN conclusions without ANY input from me.

 

When my ex was over 7K in child support arrears and wanted to visit.......he visited regardless of my bank account.

I took care of my children very well WITHOUT that money and those girls saw me work 3 jobs for many years to take care of them.

 

I wasn't going to let a few dollars stand between my daughters relationship with their father!!

 

Fast forward, I have 2 mid-twenty year old daughters who have formed their OWN OPINION about their father. It isn't positive but HE did that on his OWN and I did NOT have to get involved!

 

Thankfully me and the ex were FRIENDS first and friends third.  We've always been able to talk to each other rationally.

 

I always thought that the MORE PEOPLE that LOVED a child the better off that child would be. Their relationship can be (and should be) a separate entity.

Thankfully I was able to do that for my daughters! They do appreciate the way they were raised as they have thanked me many times.

 

BTW, my ex hung himself with his behavior and now he has no contact with the kids. SAD FOR HIM!!

You sound like a very embittered and vengeful woman who subconciously drove a wedge between your husbands children and him because of money. I feel so sorry for your daughters because the trauma that you have caused will effect them for the rest of their lives. Please get professional counseling and suggest the same to your daughters. Your anger is toxic.
 
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October 3, 2008, 7:55 pm PDT

10/03 "Brainwashed by My Parents"

Quote From: jules1965

One thing I NEVER did was bad-mouth their father to them, near them or even at all! It serves NO PURPOSE except to harm your own credibility!

 

I always figured it this way. I laid down and made these children and obvious I didn't do that alone.

So there was some 'attraction' or something for that to happen.

 

Why would I EVER let what might be my own personal opinion, harm the relationship between my daughters and their father.

 

I raised my daughters to be SMART and to make their own decisions and have their own opinions.

 

I figured that sooner or later they would draw their OWN conclusions without ANY input from me.

 

When my ex was over 7K in child support arrears and wanted to visit.......he visited regardless of my bank account.

I took care of my children very well WITHOUT that money and those girls saw me work 3 jobs for many years to take care of them.

 

I wasn't going to let a few dollars stand between my daughters relationship with their father!!

 

Fast forward, I have 2 mid-twenty year old daughters who have formed their OWN OPINION about their father. It isn't positive but HE did that on his OWN and I did NOT have to get involved!

 

Thankfully me and the ex were FRIENDS first and friends third.  We've always been able to talk to each other rationally.

 

I always thought that the MORE PEOPLE that LOVED a child the better off that child would be. Their relationship can be (and should be) a separate entity.

Thankfully I was able to do that for my daughters! They do appreciate the way they were raised as they have thanked me many times.

 

BTW, my ex hung himself with his behavior and now he has no contact with the kids. SAD FOR HIM!!

I divorced my son's father when he was 3.  My son is now 14.   Throughout the years my ex and his parents have tried so hard to alienate my son from me and my family, and have even resorted to threatening him by using his relationship with his father  and grandparents as leverage. For example, they told him if he did not choose to move in with his father when he turned 13 that things were going to change.  I have kept my mouth shut for years, cried in the bathroom out of sheer frustation, listened to my son ect.   Now at 14, my ex has once again gotten a new girlfriend and plans to move across the Us to be with this woman.  My son told his father how he felt about him leaving and his response to him was he was almost grown and his days of raising kids was over.  My son is hurt, and I am hurt because I really hoped that deep down inside my son meant more to him than that.  Anyway my point is, I have not had to say one bad thing about my ex.   He has done it all by himself.  I am just so sad my son , because no matter how tough he tries to seem, I know his heart is breaking inside.   
 
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October 7, 2008, 4:37 pm PDT

My child's well being in Hillbilly country Michigan

Quote From: jules1965

One thing I NEVER did was bad-mouth their father to them, near them or even at all! It serves NO PURPOSE except to harm your own credibility!

 

I always figured it this way. I laid down and made these children and obvious I didn't do that alone.

So there was some 'attraction' or something for that to happen.

 

Why would I EVER let what might be my own personal opinion, harm the relationship between my daughters and their father.

 

I raised my daughters to be SMART and to make their own decisions and have their own opinions.

 

I figured that sooner or later they would draw their OWN conclusions without ANY input from me.

 

When my ex was over 7K in child support arrears and wanted to visit.......he visited regardless of my bank account.

I took care of my children very well WITHOUT that money and those girls saw me work 3 jobs for many years to take care of them.

 

I wasn't going to let a few dollars stand between my daughters relationship with their father!!

 

Fast forward, I have 2 mid-twenty year old daughters who have formed their OWN OPINION about their father. It isn't positive but HE did that on his OWN and I did NOT have to get involved!

 

Thankfully me and the ex were FRIENDS first and friends third.  We've always been able to talk to each other rationally.

 

I always thought that the MORE PEOPLE that LOVED a child the better off that child would be. Their relationship can be (and should be) a separate entity.

Thankfully I was able to do that for my daughters! They do appreciate the way they were raised as they have thanked me many times.

 

BTW, my ex hung himself with his behavior and now he has no contact with the kids. SAD FOR HIM!!

I saw the show about children being brain washed---> My ex moved in with a man who molested our son and I went to 2 different CPS's and 2 Friend of the courts and every State Police post (about 6 or so), every County Sherriff's Dept. and evry City Police dept. in 18 counties in the state of Michigan about her boyfriend molesting our son. They said ok  and I gave them his name registry on the sex offender list and his correct address and other info. No one did anything except his Parole Officer and he went back to prison for parole violation. he never got charged in molesting our son. My ex then cried to CPS that I molested our son and they wanted to put my behind in prison for 5+ years for what her boyfriend did and she didn't cry molestation one time and not even two times but three seperate times. I am all cleared of all charges. They said threw their actions (the authorities) that it is better for our son be molested, abused and have an unstable home (always moving) than be with a stable father. Then when she allows our son to be abused tell our son that I did it to him. So my next child (if I ever have any) and our son is abused, I'll go straight to the prosecuter and a lawer. Cops, Friends of the Court and CPS don't care for the child or the father but care for the mother. So CPS=Child Protection Service should be changed to their real name MPS=Mother Protection Service. So I am for Men like the one that kidnapped (for the childrens well fair) his children as I should have done years ago. I aploud him for his efforts.

 


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