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October 18, 2008, 5:51 pm PDT

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Just like anything, gaming can be addictive. So can shopping, sex, drugs, alcohol, etc... If a person has an addictive personality, he/she can be addicted to anything.  I game between 8-14 hours a day, sometimes less.  What I had to learn was balance.  Now, when I had nothing in my life it was sleep, wake up, game, go to work, come home, game, sleep, and repeat.  I could not imagine losing a job for it; however, I can see where it gets in the way of relationships.  What is ironic is that I met my current live-in boyfriend in an online game over a year ago.  Now, he is here and has no interest in gaming because he has me (which confuses me), while gaming is still my favorite hobby just like it was when I met him.  I guess he had other reasons for gaming.  So, I still game.  I did have problems spending time with him, but now I make sure that other areas of my life are met before I cross to the void of gaming.  Gaming is my way of relieving stress.  Work, him, and life in general incur stress.  So, you know, you do what you gotta do.  I feel some people think it is an addiction if people actually pay to play online and/or spend over an hour a day on the game.  Wrong.  Just because it is not understood does not make it addiction.  Think of it this way, if you watch sitcoms on TV for over an hour, then would you say you are addicted to sitcoms on TV?
Helllooooo.....      If you would read the responses to this topic, a big problem with excessive gaming issues, is that  people like you dismiss what others are saying that they are experiencing because of excessive gaming.    You  link excessive gaming up with watching too much TV.  What excessive gaming can do to a person and relationships can be far more extensive that what watching too much TV can do to a person.  Many real lives and relationships have been totally ruined because of excessive gaming.  Some people, like you, can get back on track, and have some "control" over their gaming.  That is GREAT.  But, not everyone can.  As you say, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED RUIN IN YOUR LIFE BECAUSE OF EXCESSIVE GAMING, DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT OTHERS DON'T!!  Not all people are like you!
 
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October 18, 2008, 7:05 pm PDT

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Just like anything, gaming can be addictive. So can shopping, sex, drugs, alcohol, etc... If a person has an addictive personality, he/she can be addicted to anything.  I game between 8-14 hours a day, sometimes less.  What I had to learn was balance.  Now, when I had nothing in my life it was sleep, wake up, game, go to work, come home, game, sleep, and repeat.  I could not imagine losing a job for it; however, I can see where it gets in the way of relationships.  What is ironic is that I met my current live-in boyfriend in an online game over a year ago.  Now, he is here and has no interest in gaming because he has me (which confuses me), while gaming is still my favorite hobby just like it was when I met him.  I guess he had other reasons for gaming.  So, I still game.  I did have problems spending time with him, but now I make sure that other areas of my life are met before I cross to the void of gaming.  Gaming is my way of relieving stress.  Work, him, and life in general incur stress.  So, you know, you do what you gotta do.  I feel some people think it is an addiction if people actually pay to play online and/or spend over an hour a day on the game.  Wrong.  Just because it is not understood does not make it addiction.  Think of it this way, if you watch sitcoms on TV for over an hour, then would you say you are addicted to sitcoms on TV?

The last line is the important one.

 

Us widows are not talking about 1 hour playing...that's a hobby.

We are talking about doing NOTHING else but gaming.  Ignoring your spouse, job, responsibilities and children.

Yes, some gamers out there ignore their kids. And just because other things are addictive doesn't make gaming any less so, or less damaging.

I have been abused by gaming.  Marriges have broken up, children feel neglected and worth less than a game.

Is this right? Is this ok? Hell no!

 

I understand needing to relieve stress.  I have a very stressful job.  However I deal with my house, my yard and spend quality time with my kids and when they are in bed then I sit and read.

 

Gaming to the point that you neglect everything else is NEVER ok!

 
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October 19, 2008, 7:05 am PDT

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Just like anything, gaming can be addictive. So can shopping, sex, drugs, alcohol, etc... If a person has an addictive personality, he/she can be addicted to anything.  I game between 8-14 hours a day, sometimes less.  What I had to learn was balance.  Now, when I had nothing in my life it was sleep, wake up, game, go to work, come home, game, sleep, and repeat.  I could not imagine losing a job for it; however, I can see where it gets in the way of relationships.  What is ironic is that I met my current live-in boyfriend in an online game over a year ago.  Now, he is here and has no interest in gaming because he has me (which confuses me), while gaming is still my favorite hobby just like it was when I met him.  I guess he had other reasons for gaming.  So, I still game.  I did have problems spending time with him, but now I make sure that other areas of my life are met before I cross to the void of gaming.  Gaming is my way of relieving stress.  Work, him, and life in general incur stress.  So, you know, you do what you gotta do.  I feel some people think it is an addiction if people actually pay to play online and/or spend over an hour a day on the game.  Wrong.  Just because it is not understood does not make it addiction.  Think of it this way, if you watch sitcoms on TV for over an hour, then would you say you are addicted to sitcoms on TV?

Your last sentence of "Think of it this way, if you watch sitcoms on TV for over an hour, then would you say you are addicted to sitcoms on TV?" indicates to me a lack of understanding of what addiction is.  Until I became addicted to video games, to be honest, I did not really understand how people could become addicted to anything.  One of the things, to me, that defines an addiction to video games is not so much the number of hours per day that are spent playing, although that is often an important indicator of an addiction problem.  For example, I only played about 4 hours per day, which is less than quite a few people spend on a hobby.  However, the important difference is the issue of control.  I only spent that much time because I had some limited control over myself but even that much time, in addition to my other procrastination methods, caused a lot of problems for me.  Although I have stopped playing now, it was not an easy thing for me to do.  People with just a hobby or a pastime, like watching T.V. occasionally, even for over an hour, can usually easily change the amount of time involved if they want to.  Nonetheless, as you say at the start, almost anything can be addictive to certain people.  However, too much time spent doing anything, whether or not it is truly an addiction, is a problem if it causes a person to ignore their real life responsibilities to themselves and those around them.

 

If you are interested in learning more about the issue of addiction, I am sure that there are many excellent books and other references.  However, one book that I, and at least several other people that I know of, have found to be very helpful is "The Addictive Personality: Understanding the Addictive Process and Compulsive Behavior" by Craig Nakken.  A link to it on Amazon is www.amazon.com/Addictive-Personality-Understanding-Compulsive-Behavior/dp/1568381298/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221858013&sr=1-1 .

 
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October 20, 2008, 10:12 am PDT

10/20 Virtual Chaos

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Just like anything, gaming can be addictive. So can shopping, sex, drugs, alcohol, etc... If a person has an addictive personality, he/she can be addicted to anything.  I game between 8-14 hours a day, sometimes less.  What I had to learn was balance.  Now, when I had nothing in my life it was sleep, wake up, game, go to work, come home, game, sleep, and repeat.  I could not imagine losing a job for it; however, I can see where it gets in the way of relationships.  What is ironic is that I met my current live-in boyfriend in an online game over a year ago.  Now, he is here and has no interest in gaming because he has me (which confuses me), while gaming is still my favorite hobby just like it was when I met him.  I guess he had other reasons for gaming.  So, I still game.  I did have problems spending time with him, but now I make sure that other areas of my life are met before I cross to the void of gaming.  Gaming is my way of relieving stress.  Work, him, and life in general incur stress.  So, you know, you do what you gotta do.  I feel some people think it is an addiction if people actually pay to play online and/or spend over an hour a day on the game.  Wrong.  Just because it is not understood does not make it addiction.  Think of it this way, if you watch sitcoms on TV for over an hour, then would you say you are addicted to sitcoms on TV?
I agree with this statement here.I play WOW and  other people do other things in their life that you could argue could be excessive 
 
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October 20, 2008, 12:40 pm PDT

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Just like anything, gaming can be addictive. So can shopping, sex, drugs, alcohol, etc... If a person has an addictive personality, he/she can be addicted to anything.  I game between 8-14 hours a day, sometimes less.  What I had to learn was balance.  Now, when I had nothing in my life it was sleep, wake up, game, go to work, come home, game, sleep, and repeat.  I could not imagine losing a job for it; however, I can see where it gets in the way of relationships.  What is ironic is that I met my current live-in boyfriend in an online game over a year ago.  Now, he is here and has no interest in gaming because he has me (which confuses me), while gaming is still my favorite hobby just like it was when I met him.  I guess he had other reasons for gaming.  So, I still game.  I did have problems spending time with him, but now I make sure that other areas of my life are met before I cross to the void of gaming.  Gaming is my way of relieving stress.  Work, him, and life in general incur stress.  So, you know, you do what you gotta do.  I feel some people think it is an addiction if people actually pay to play online and/or spend over an hour a day on the game.  Wrong.  Just because it is not understood does not make it addiction.  Think of it this way, if you watch sitcoms on TV for over an hour, then would you say you are addicted to sitcoms on TV?
I am a mom of 3. My husband and I both played WoW (World of Warcraft) alot for a while but not enough to neglect other real life duties. We have since gotten bored with the game and canceled our accounts. I can see how people can get "addicted" to the game. It is made to be an involved game some people take it to far as with anything like has been said just like shopping, sex, drugs, ect.. There are things impelemented in the game that can limit how much time is spent on the game and as far as that goes whomever is paying for the game (the wife who is supporting her husband without a job) go into account management on the game and cancel the subscription. Cancel the credit card that is being used to pay the monthly fee for the game. There are things in the game such as parental controls that will cut the game off after a certian amount of time played. It isn't as hopeless as people make it sound.
 
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10/20 Virtual Chaos

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Just like anything, gaming can be addictive. So can shopping, sex, drugs, alcohol, etc... If a person has an addictive personality, he/she can be addicted to anything.  I game between 8-14 hours a day, sometimes less.  What I had to learn was balance.  Now, when I had nothing in my life it was sleep, wake up, game, go to work, come home, game, sleep, and repeat.  I could not imagine losing a job for it; however, I can see where it gets in the way of relationships.  What is ironic is that I met my current live-in boyfriend in an online game over a year ago.  Now, he is here and has no interest in gaming because he has me (which confuses me), while gaming is still my favorite hobby just like it was when I met him.  I guess he had other reasons for gaming.  So, I still game.  I did have problems spending time with him, but now I make sure that other areas of my life are met before I cross to the void of gaming.  Gaming is my way of relieving stress.  Work, him, and life in general incur stress.  So, you know, you do what you gotta do.  I feel some people think it is an addiction if people actually pay to play online and/or spend over an hour a day on the game.  Wrong.  Just because it is not understood does not make it addiction.  Think of it this way, if you watch sitcoms on TV for over an hour, then would you say you are addicted to sitcoms on TV?
Gonna have to say with all the posts about "gaming addiction" this has to be the one i appreciate the most. Everything she has stated in this is true in the most absolute sense. You can become addicted to anything in this world sex, drugs, movies ect.. and yes if your wondering i am a gamer...has my life been ruined by mmorpg's...no. Will it be? No. It depends on the person, just like everything. But Too be honest....compared to other horrifically violent video games....ex. Grand Theft Auto and the whole horde of games out there that are similiar to it, world of warcraft should be the least of y'alls worries. If i had children ill tell u i would be alot more at ease them playing world of warcraft alot...than playing games like grand theft auto...basically teling them that killing people is alright, or even movies for that matter. If you get addicted to something, it is your own fault and thus your own responsibility to fix the problem. Just like with smoking..there are steps to getting rid of the addiction...but someone else cant do it for you...you are the one that has to. Personally i play mmorpg's....not because they are a waste of time...like most people who have zero experience with video games think. I do it because it's a hobby of mine and i enjoy it, and you know what? that's all that matters. Am i addicted to it? no i am not...i do it because i enjoy it and it makes me happy. Everyone has something they do for a hobby that they themselves enjoy and thus get their own self-gratification out of it...and yes there are some who have hobbies that do take it overboard and when they realize that..it is up to them to fix it. I speak from personal experience with in the past having been addicted to video games...i remedied the problem and fixed it..do i still play? yes. am i addicted? not anymore. I understand that the point of this post is how video/computer games can destroy lives, wreck marriages, put u in an extreme ammount of debt, but im just backing up this womans statement and defending her post against anyone who decides to flame it. The whole debate on "Virtual Chaos" is portraying video games as some evil corporation to destroy people...it's not the games that destroy people it's the people playing them that take it too far and destroy people. And im sure you have all heard the saying...."Gun's dont kill people, people kill people."
 


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