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November 18, 2006, 3:54 pm PST

11/24 Great School Debate

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Crime and bullying do NOT come from the public school system. We don't teach that as a special elective class! LOL! Crime and bullying come from people - and from kids. It's not inherent to the institution of public schools. Just because public schools have to deal with the problems of undisciplined children doesn't mean they are the CAUSE of those problems.

 

While I do not argue that private schooling or even homeschooling may be the best choice for some families, I am a bit concerned over the idea that just any parent is qualified to educate his/her children. It is a VERY serious commitment that requires time, dedication, and ability. I cannot tell you how many children are returned to public schools after parents get bored with homeschooling, and the children are woefully behind not only in academics but in social skills.

 

I know there are many homeschooling success stories, but I think it is misleading to say that any parent will be able to be successful in this area. Some simply do not have the ability, the education, the time, or a full understanding of what is required. I disagree that EVERY parent knows what is best for his/her child. If that were true, we wouldn't have the problems we have today. I know a lot of great parents, but I also have met many who absolutely SHOULD NOT homeschool.

And I agree that not all parents should be homeshooling and unfortuanetly there  are some educated teachers who cannot teach. it's one thing to be book smart but another to actually be able to do the job, Again, Parents have to do their home work, seek out  what is best for their kids and know that they are doing the right thing. No system is perfect, but the priority has to be on the kids, and I think those cases where the kids are not the high priority, whether they are the parents or the system, are the ones who have kids out of control and the more unsafe atmosphere.

Again, bottom line is it is parents responsibility to give their  kids the best of the best opportunity, especially when it comes to their education and which means kids need tobe ina safe and good living atmosphere and teachers/staff need to be working on the goal of providing the best education possible, unfortunetly there are parents and teachers failing in these areas and of course the kids reap the consequences. Again, i say kudos to all the good parents out there searching the best education for their kids and follwong through as well as the good teachers who put kids first regardless of the system they are in.
 

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November 22, 2006, 6:56 am PST

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Crime and bullying do NOT come from the public school system. We don't teach that as a special elective class! LOL! Crime and bullying come from people - and from kids. It's not inherent to the institution of public schools. Just because public schools have to deal with the problems of undisciplined children doesn't mean they are the CAUSE of those problems.

 

While I do not argue that private schooling or even homeschooling may be the best choice for some families, I am a bit concerned over the idea that just any parent is qualified to educate his/her children. It is a VERY serious commitment that requires time, dedication, and ability. I cannot tell you how many children are returned to public schools after parents get bored with homeschooling, and the children are woefully behind not only in academics but in social skills.

 

I know there are many homeschooling success stories, but I think it is misleading to say that any parent will be able to be successful in this area. Some simply do not have the ability, the education, the time, or a full understanding of what is required. I disagree that EVERY parent knows what is best for his/her child. If that were true, we wouldn't have the problems we have today. I know a lot of great parents, but I also have met many who absolutely SHOULD NOT homeschool.

And well said!
 
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November 24, 2006, 3:54 am PST

Don't assume public school teachers are great

Quote From: julie1418

Crime and bullying do NOT come from the public school system. We don't teach that as a special elective class! LOL! Crime and bullying come from people - and from kids. It's not inherent to the institution of public schools. Just because public schools have to deal with the problems of undisciplined children doesn't mean they are the CAUSE of those problems.

 

While I do not argue that private schooling or even homeschooling may be the best choice for some families, I am a bit concerned over the idea that just any parent is qualified to educate his/her children. It is a VERY serious commitment that requires time, dedication, and ability. I cannot tell you how many children are returned to public schools after parents get bored with homeschooling, and the children are woefully behind not only in academics but in social skills.

 

I know there are many homeschooling success stories, but I think it is misleading to say that any parent will be able to be successful in this area. Some simply do not have the ability, the education, the time, or a full understanding of what is required. I disagree that EVERY parent knows what is best for his/her child. If that were true, we wouldn't have the problems we have today. I know a lot of great parents, but I also have met many who absolutely SHOULD NOT homeschool.

I don't take exception to your post.

 

However, as a certified high school teacher (who taught for 9 years), I take exception to your conclusion that public school teachers are more educated to teach than everyone else. I have worked with MANY lousy public school teachers. Some didn't want to teach, but wanted summers off (etc). Some were teaching out of field (ex. a PE teacher trying to teach upper level math). Some couldn't be fired because of tenure and a teachers' union that protected every the lousiest of teacher!

 

A degree does not mean anything. My good friend homeschools and she does not have a college education. However, she loves kids, is very bright (gifted), is extremely resourceful and puts her ALL into teaching her gifted daughter.

 

And as for "social skills," hopefully you are aware of homeschooling groups AND of homeschoolers being allowed (by law) to use the public schools for things like art, music and PE.

 

School choice is needed and finding the best fit for the individual child is what should matter most.

 
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December 29, 2006, 4:13 pm PST

11/24 Great School Debate

Quote From: julie1418

Crime and bullying do NOT come from the public school system. We don't teach that as a special elective class! LOL! Crime and bullying come from people - and from kids. It's not inherent to the institution of public schools. Just because public schools have to deal with the problems of undisciplined children doesn't mean they are the CAUSE of those problems.

 

While I do not argue that private schooling or even homeschooling may be the best choice for some families, I am a bit concerned over the idea that just any parent is qualified to educate his/her children. It is a VERY serious commitment that requires time, dedication, and ability. I cannot tell you how many children are returned to public schools after parents get bored with homeschooling, and the children are woefully behind not only in academics but in social skills.

 

I know there are many homeschooling success stories, but I think it is misleading to say that any parent will be able to be successful in this area. Some simply do not have the ability, the education, the time, or a full understanding of what is required. I disagree that EVERY parent knows what is best for his/her child. If that were true, we wouldn't have the problems we have today. I know a lot of great parents, but I also have met many who absolutely SHOULD NOT homeschool.

No, crime and bullying do not come from the PS system.  But they are there!  When you put that many kids into one building, with the minimal amount of supervision there is, there is going to be crime and bullying.  I'm not blaming the school system for the problems in these children (though I DO blame them for not finding a way to curb it), but I am also not willing to subject my own children to it, simply because it "isn't the school system's fault."  I don't care whose fault it is, frankly.  I care about giving my children an environment where they can learn without fear and harrassment.  And right now, that is at home.
 


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