Replies to '11/24 Great School Debate'
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November 18, 2006, 2:50 pm PST
 Quote From: steiwhleur I graduated from an upper-middle class high school in 1990. I thought I had learned what needed to be learned so that I could go on to college. WRONG! In college I had to pay for REMEDIAL math classes!!! I was so angry. But then I looked around at who was in my remedial class and they were all students from North Hills High School!! I wanted to bill the high school for my remedial classes, but my parents said I should just drop it. I wish I had sent the high school a bill. Maybe it would have caused them to take another look at their sub-par cirriculum!!
That was all hapening 16 years ago! I now live in New Mexico and the schools here are horrific. Graduates can't read, write, do math, spell....nothing! My niece is in the 9th grade and probably reads on a 4th grade level. She can't spell correctly if her life depended on it...and it does. No one wants to hire someone too stupid to spell or add or divide correctly. And her speaking is just as bad. She sounds like a dullard. This will haunt her for the rest of her life. People will assume she's an idiot, not the kind, sweet, beautiful girl that she has become.
New Mexico ranks 43rd out of 50 for our inadequate schooling, yet our govenor refuses to address it. Yes he's trying to throw money at the problem, but we need to start requiring more from the teachers and principals before we can make such demands on our children. New Mexico also has a "don't ask" policy about if a child is an illegal or an American citizen. Therefore our schools are flooded with illegals who only speak Spanish. This adds to the teachers' burden---the teachers must learn and teach Spanish to "accomodate" these illegals. No wonder we rank so low!! New Mexico is like a 3rd world country in many ways.
Home schooling sounds like the way to go so long as the parents meet all the required credentials and they are diligent about teaching at home. Home schooled kids should have some kind of network so that they can be around like-aged kids. That way they can learn the socialization skills needed out in the real world.
For our retirement we are looking to go to the mountains of Montana -- maybe we'll find some smart people like us up there!! Most homeschool families do have some type of networking. In our state you have to be registered with the state to legally homeschool. I just can't understand why people think homeschoolers are unsocialized. My son was far more socially active when I homeshcooled than when he was in public school. I ask, what is more of a social learning experience; sitting in a class with 25 other kids all of the same age group for several hours a day and not being able to have social interaction with them (that is against the rules, we must be quiet little robots in the classroom) or being out in the real world interacting with all kinds of people? The whole "no child left behind " thing is a real joke. What they have done is lower the standards so the slower learning kids don't get lost. When I pulled my son out of the public school he was the 10th child to leave the school for homeschooling that week. His teachers would give him credit on his math just for writing an answer down. (it did not have to be the correct answer, once he put the answer to 2+2=fish and the teacher marked it correct) Instead of working with him they told him he was not smart enough to learn math. In 3 years he finished the entire high school cirriculum, and graduated last May at the age of 16. He also has been accepted into college. I will agree that homeschooling is not for everyone, it is only for people who truly care about the education their child recieves. |
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November 18, 2006, 3:17 pm PST
Quote From: steiwhleur I graduated from an upper-middle class high school in 1990. I thought I had learned what needed to be learned so that I could go on to college. WRONG! In college I had to pay for REMEDIAL math classes!!! I was so angry. But then I looked around at who was in my remedial class and they were all students from North Hills High School!! I wanted to bill the high school for my remedial classes, but my parents said I should just drop it. I wish I had sent the high school a bill. Maybe it would have caused them to take another look at their sub-par cirriculum!!
That was all hapening 16 years ago! I now live in New Mexico and the schools here are horrific. Graduates can't read, write, do math, spell....nothing! My niece is in the 9th grade and probably reads on a 4th grade level. She can't spell correctly if her life depended on it...and it does. No one wants to hire someone too stupid to spell or add or divide correctly. And her speaking is just as bad. She sounds like a dullard. This will haunt her for the rest of her life. People will assume she's an idiot, not the kind, sweet, beautiful girl that she has become.
New Mexico ranks 43rd out of 50 for our inadequate schooling, yet our govenor refuses to address it. Yes he's trying to throw money at the problem, but we need to start requiring more from the teachers and principals before we can make such demands on our children. New Mexico also has a "don't ask" policy about if a child is an illegal or an American citizen. Therefore our schools are flooded with illegals who only speak Spanish. This adds to the teachers' burden---the teachers must learn and teach Spanish to "accomodate" these illegals. No wonder we rank so low!! New Mexico is like a 3rd world country in many ways.
Home schooling sounds like the way to go so long as the parents meet all the required credentials and they are diligent about teaching at home. Home schooled kids should have some kind of network so that they can be around like-aged kids. That way they can learn the socialization skills needed out in the real world.
For our retirement we are looking to go to the mountains of Montana -- maybe we'll find some smart people like us up there!! There are networking opportunities in the homeschool field. There are support groups and opportunities to meet others and go on field trips and all that plus there are many ways to socialize kids, not all kids who go to public school have good social skills, parents just have to know what they are doing and have their kids best interests at hand. My kids are only 3 and 5 and they have absolutely no problem socially, and my litttle one is a little shy but the child has a new best froend every time I turn around it seems,LOLLLLLLLL. |
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November 24, 2006, 7:15 am PST
Quote From: steiwhleur I graduated from an upper-middle class high school in 1990. I thought I had learned what needed to be learned so that I could go on to college. WRONG! In college I had to pay for REMEDIAL math classes!!! I was so angry. But then I looked around at who was in my remedial class and they were all students from North Hills High School!! I wanted to bill the high school for my remedial classes, but my parents said I should just drop it. I wish I had sent the high school a bill. Maybe it would have caused them to take another look at their sub-par cirriculum!!
That was all hapening 16 years ago! I now live in New Mexico and the schools here are horrific. Graduates can't read, write, do math, spell....nothing! My niece is in the 9th grade and probably reads on a 4th grade level. She can't spell correctly if her life depended on it...and it does. No one wants to hire someone too stupid to spell or add or divide correctly. And her speaking is just as bad. She sounds like a dullard. This will haunt her for the rest of her life. People will assume she's an idiot, not the kind, sweet, beautiful girl that she has become.
New Mexico ranks 43rd out of 50 for our inadequate schooling, yet our govenor refuses to address it. Yes he's trying to throw money at the problem, but we need to start requiring more from the teachers and principals before we can make such demands on our children. New Mexico also has a "don't ask" policy about if a child is an illegal or an American citizen. Therefore our schools are flooded with illegals who only speak Spanish. This adds to the teachers' burden---the teachers must learn and teach Spanish to "accomodate" these illegals. No wonder we rank so low!! New Mexico is like a 3rd world country in many ways.
Home schooling sounds like the way to go so long as the parents meet all the required credentials and they are diligent about teaching at home. Home schooled kids should have some kind of network so that they can be around like-aged kids. That way they can learn the socialization skills needed out in the real world.
For our retirement we are looking to go to the mountains of Montana -- maybe we'll find some smart people like us up there!! My wife had a similar experience with her high school. She was so poorly prepared for college, especially in math, that she ended up dropping out of college because of math, embarassment, and frustration. She worked a retail job for about 10 years and went back to college at the age of 28, where she finally got the remedial classes she needed to make up for the loss. She has two associate's degrees in electronics and is going for bachelors degrees in history and writing. She would LOVE to sue her former high school. She graduated in 1991 from Irmo HS in South Carolina, supposedly the best high school in the state. |
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November 24, 2006, 3:20 pm PST
Quote From: steiwhleur I graduated from an upper-middle class high school in 1990. I thought I had learned what needed to be learned so that I could go on to college. WRONG! In college I had to pay for REMEDIAL math classes!!! I was so angry. But then I looked around at who was in my remedial class and they were all students from North Hills High School!! I wanted to bill the high school for my remedial classes, but my parents said I should just drop it. I wish I had sent the high school a bill. Maybe it would have caused them to take another look at their sub-par cirriculum!!
That was all hapening 16 years ago! I now live in New Mexico and the schools here are horrific. Graduates can't read, write, do math, spell....nothing! My niece is in the 9th grade and probably reads on a 4th grade level. She can't spell correctly if her life depended on it...and it does. No one wants to hire someone too stupid to spell or add or divide correctly. And her speaking is just as bad. She sounds like a dullard. This will haunt her for the rest of her life. People will assume she's an idiot, not the kind, sweet, beautiful girl that she has become.
New Mexico ranks 43rd out of 50 for our inadequate schooling, yet our govenor refuses to address it. Yes he's trying to throw money at the problem, but we need to start requiring more from the teachers and principals before we can make such demands on our children. New Mexico also has a "don't ask" policy about if a child is an illegal or an American citizen. Therefore our schools are flooded with illegals who only speak Spanish. This adds to the teachers' burden---the teachers must learn and teach Spanish to "accomodate" these illegals. No wonder we rank so low!! New Mexico is like a 3rd world country in many ways.
Home schooling sounds like the way to go so long as the parents meet all the required credentials and they are diligent about teaching at home. Home schooled kids should have some kind of network so that they can be around like-aged kids. That way they can learn the socialization skills needed out in the real world.
For our retirement we are looking to go to the mountains of Montana -- maybe we'll find some smart people like us up there!! So illegal children should not be able to go to school? Clearly it is not their fault that they were brought into this country illegally. I just find it interesting how you incorporated the topic of illegal immigration into this.
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November 25, 2006, 7:54 am PST
Quote From: steiwhleur I graduated from an upper-middle class high school in 1990. I thought I had learned what needed to be learned so that I could go on to college. WRONG! In college I had to pay for REMEDIAL math classes!!! I was so angry. But then I looked around at who was in my remedial class and they were all students from North Hills High School!! I wanted to bill the high school for my remedial classes, but my parents said I should just drop it. I wish I had sent the high school a bill. Maybe it would have caused them to take another look at their sub-par cirriculum!!
That was all hapening 16 years ago! I now live in New Mexico and the schools here are horrific. Graduates can't read, write, do math, spell....nothing! My niece is in the 9th grade and probably reads on a 4th grade level. She can't spell correctly if her life depended on it...and it does. No one wants to hire someone too stupid to spell or add or divide correctly. And her speaking is just as bad. She sounds like a dullard. This will haunt her for the rest of her life. People will assume she's an idiot, not the kind, sweet, beautiful girl that she has become.
New Mexico ranks 43rd out of 50 for our inadequate schooling, yet our govenor refuses to address it. Yes he's trying to throw money at the problem, but we need to start requiring more from the teachers and principals before we can make such demands on our children. New Mexico also has a "don't ask" policy about if a child is an illegal or an American citizen. Therefore our schools are flooded with illegals who only speak Spanish. This adds to the teachers' burden---the teachers must learn and teach Spanish to "accomodate" these illegals. No wonder we rank so low!! New Mexico is like a 3rd world country in many ways.
Home schooling sounds like the way to go so long as the parents meet all the required credentials and they are diligent about teaching at home. Home schooled kids should have some kind of network so that they can be around like-aged kids. That way they can learn the socialization skills needed out in the real world.
For our retirement we are looking to go to the mountains of Montana -- maybe we'll find some smart people like us up there!! I agree that it really depends on where you go to school that determines the level of schooling you receive. I chose to homeschool my children and have had wonderful results.
We do have extensive networks. My children attend their art , pe, and zoo classes through our group. They have parties, field trips, and friends just like regular school.
My children are around kids their own age alot, but that is not what prepares them for the real world. The real world requires you to be able to interact with many different ages & backgrounds. I have not been in a group with only people my age since I graduated school.
My sister & brother were homeschooled and they are active and contributing members of society. My brother was pulled out of public school when we realized he couldn't receive the one-on-one teaching that he needed (it wouldn't have been fair to the other students in the class). He was already 2 grades behind at that time. He flourished in home school with the one-on-one teaching that he desperately needed. He graduated on time at (or above) grade level.
There can be many advantages to homeschooling, but it is not for everyone. It is the best choice for my children and for me.
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December 3, 2006, 3:36 pm PST
Quote From: steiwhleur I graduated from an upper-middle class high school in 1990. I thought I had learned what needed to be learned so that I could go on to college. WRONG! In college I had to pay for REMEDIAL math classes!!! I was so angry. But then I looked around at who was in my remedial class and they were all students from North Hills High School!! I wanted to bill the high school for my remedial classes, but my parents said I should just drop it. I wish I had sent the high school a bill. Maybe it would have caused them to take another look at their sub-par cirriculum!!
That was all hapening 16 years ago! I now live in New Mexico and the schools here are horrific. Graduates can't read, write, do math, spell....nothing! My niece is in the 9th grade and probably reads on a 4th grade level. She can't spell correctly if her life depended on it...and it does. No one wants to hire someone too stupid to spell or add or divide correctly. And her speaking is just as bad. She sounds like a dullard. This will haunt her for the rest of her life. People will assume she's an idiot, not the kind, sweet, beautiful girl that she has become.
New Mexico ranks 43rd out of 50 for our inadequate schooling, yet our govenor refuses to address it. Yes he's trying to throw money at the problem, but we need to start requiring more from the teachers and principals before we can make such demands on our children. New Mexico also has a "don't ask" policy about if a child is an illegal or an American citizen. Therefore our schools are flooded with illegals who only speak Spanish. This adds to the teachers' burden---the teachers must learn and teach Spanish to "accomodate" these illegals. No wonder we rank so low!! New Mexico is like a 3rd world country in many ways.
Home schooling sounds like the way to go so long as the parents meet all the required credentials and they are diligent about teaching at home. Home schooled kids should have some kind of network so that they can be around like-aged kids. That way they can learn the socialization skills needed out in the real world.
For our retirement we are looking to go to the mountains of Montana -- maybe we'll find some smart people like us up there!! Have you ever been to a 3rd world country?? Just because there is an ethnically diverse population in NM does not constitute a 3rd world Country! I am a native of NM, and personally I am sick of people moving to NM and putting down the culture, politics, and everything else you can think of...Please...do us all a favor.. why wait till retirement.. Montana needs you now. |
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