Replies to 'Getting Along With Your In-Laws'
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July 28, 2005, 11:30 am PDT
 Quote From: jb7ctx My husband has worked with his father in his fathers bussiness ever since he was a teen. He is now in his 30's. We have children. We have been married for almost 7 years now and for the last 6 years, we have never received a tax refund. My husbands gross pay is 600.00/week. His father holds out 100.00/week for child support that my husband owes and 100.00/week for taxes. His bring home pay is 400.00/week. His father claims him as a partner in his bussiness (even though he really isnt). He does this for tax purposes only. His father holds these taxes out of my husbands check but we never get a refund. The tax accountant said that my husbands refund is being rolled over to pay his social security that he owes. (now keep in mind his father holds this money out of my husbands check). So therefore we are not entitled to a refund, we have to pay! my husband told his father last year that he had better send in his taxes so we can get a refund for this year. But guess what? We have to pay again! (actually, we just dont get a refund). Shouldnt his father have to pay us our refund himself since he held the money out of his check? My husband is not a partner with his dad in his dads bussiness. My husband has never received any profits of the money made. His dad does this for his own tax purposes! I feel we are being cheated out of our refund by his father. This year my husband is doing his own bussiness and he has his own employees that he has to pay. He is no longer working for his dad. BUT...his dad is planning on claiming my husband again NEXT year as his partner. He cant do this! My husband is scared to say anything to his dad for some reason. But I am tired of it. We are entitled to unearned income due to the kids, but dont get it because of his father claiming my husband as his partner when he really isnt! How can I get my husband to "open" his eyes as to what is going on, before I decide to leave him because of it? His parents dont have anything to do with us. They are such control freaks over my husband. They use my husband to their own gain. How can I stop this?
Harobe, glad to see you back! The inlaws came down about 3 weeks ago but did not get out of the truck. They had to get something from my husband. Our kids were walking right in front of the truck and my mil said hey to my son but my son just looked at her and kept on walking. Our daughter was right next to my son and she didnt even say anything to her. I was outside too and the kids were walking to me but mil acted as though she didnt see me, she just kept her head down. It has been 10 months since they spoke to me or even seen the kids. I am tired of them. I am tired and angry especially about the income tax refund! These people dont care about us. Oh I would be just as mad, irritated, etc., as you are about all this tax stuff!! This is totally stupid that his father thinks he can get away with this...BUT...you and I know why his father thinks he can get away with this-- its because your husband allows him to. Its unbelievable that this man would actually take money away from his son, practicaly taking food out of his own grandchildren's lives, and think nothing of it. It is unbelievable that your husband is just going to keep allowing this to happen. Your husband isn't working for his father at all at this point, yet his father has said that he is still going to keep this charade going for tax fraud? My only advice is for him (your hubby) to let his father know that he can't do that because he has to file his own taxes and his employee's taxes, and it will get his father in trouble if he does still file that your husband is his partner. I can't imagine what your husband is so "scared" of regarding his parents...it sounds like they are totaly uninvolved in your lives, what does he have to lose? He will be gaining self respect, and that is something you can't put a price tag on, you know?
You always have such good advice for others regarding problems with thier in-laws here on this message board. Can you pretend, just for a few moments, that your posting was someone else's and ask yourself what advice you would give that woman? I wish you the best, keep your chin up. Jen |
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July 29, 2005, 8:36 am PDT
Quote From: jb7ctx My husband has worked with his father in his fathers bussiness ever since he was a teen. He is now in his 30's. We have children. We have been married for almost 7 years now and for the last 6 years, we have never received a tax refund. My husbands gross pay is 600.00/week. His father holds out 100.00/week for child support that my husband owes and 100.00/week for taxes. His bring home pay is 400.00/week. His father claims him as a partner in his bussiness (even though he really isnt). He does this for tax purposes only. His father holds these taxes out of my husbands check but we never get a refund. The tax accountant said that my husbands refund is being rolled over to pay his social security that he owes. (now keep in mind his father holds this money out of my husbands check). So therefore we are not entitled to a refund, we have to pay! my husband told his father last year that he had better send in his taxes so we can get a refund for this year. But guess what? We have to pay again! (actually, we just dont get a refund). Shouldnt his father have to pay us our refund himself since he held the money out of his check? My husband is not a partner with his dad in his dads bussiness. My husband has never received any profits of the money made. His dad does this for his own tax purposes! I feel we are being cheated out of our refund by his father. This year my husband is doing his own bussiness and he has his own employees that he has to pay. He is no longer working for his dad. BUT...his dad is planning on claiming my husband again NEXT year as his partner. He cant do this! My husband is scared to say anything to his dad for some reason. But I am tired of it. We are entitled to unearned income due to the kids, but dont get it because of his father claiming my husband as his partner when he really isnt! How can I get my husband to "open" his eyes as to what is going on, before I decide to leave him because of it? His parents dont have anything to do with us. They are such control freaks over my husband. They use my husband to their own gain. How can I stop this?
Harobe, glad to see you back! The inlaws came down about 3 weeks ago but did not get out of the truck. They had to get something from my husband. Our kids were walking right in front of the truck and my mil said hey to my son but my son just looked at her and kept on walking. Our daughter was right next to my son and she didnt even say anything to her. I was outside too and the kids were walking to me but mil acted as though she didnt see me, she just kept her head down. It has been 10 months since they spoke to me or even seen the kids. I am tired of them. I am tired and angry especially about the income tax refund! These people dont care about us. I understand you being tired of "them" and the relentless frustration... and how sad for the kids. Why do you suppose your son didn't reply when his grandmother spoke to him? It still seems you're the only hope of ending this battle.
Tax issues are complicated... the accountant can explain and your tax forms will clarify the money issue. But from my understanding - Hubby's income is his profit (as FIL's profit is his income). They each pay fed/state, SS, etc. and file as individuals. It's not tax fraud and FIL doesn't benefit financially, nor does it put hubby at a financial disadvantage for the partnership to continue. Hubby can have a separate business even though the partnership exists.... one has nothing to do with the other. The question is, did FIL send in the withholdings? Seems he did since you indicated the accountant said it paid for the SS hubby owed. I suggest you talk with the accountant again so you have a full understanding of what's going on. Take care. :) |
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November 9, 2005, 7:16 am PST
Quote From: jb7ctx My husband has worked with his father in his fathers bussiness ever since he was a teen. He is now in his 30's. We have children. We have been married for almost 7 years now and for the last 6 years, we have never received a tax refund. My husbands gross pay is 600.00/week. His father holds out 100.00/week for child support that my husband owes and 100.00/week for taxes. His bring home pay is 400.00/week. His father claims him as a partner in his bussiness (even though he really isnt). He does this for tax purposes only. His father holds these taxes out of my husbands check but we never get a refund. The tax accountant said that my husbands refund is being rolled over to pay his social security that he owes. (now keep in mind his father holds this money out of my husbands check). So therefore we are not entitled to a refund, we have to pay! my husband told his father last year that he had better send in his taxes so we can get a refund for this year. But guess what? We have to pay again! (actually, we just dont get a refund). Shouldnt his father have to pay us our refund himself since he held the money out of his check? My husband is not a partner with his dad in his dads bussiness. My husband has never received any profits of the money made. His dad does this for his own tax purposes! I feel we are being cheated out of our refund by his father. This year my husband is doing his own bussiness and he has his own employees that he has to pay. He is no longer working for his dad. BUT...his dad is planning on claiming my husband again NEXT year as his partner. He cant do this! My husband is scared to say anything to his dad for some reason. But I am tired of it. We are entitled to unearned income due to the kids, but dont get it because of his father claiming my husband as his partner when he really isnt! How can I get my husband to "open" his eyes as to what is going on, before I decide to leave him because of it? His parents dont have anything to do with us. They are such control freaks over my husband. They use my husband to their own gain. How can I stop this?
Harobe, glad to see you back! The inlaws came down about 3 weeks ago but did not get out of the truck. They had to get something from my husband. Our kids were walking right in front of the truck and my mil said hey to my son but my son just looked at her and kept on walking. Our daughter was right next to my son and she didnt even say anything to her. I was outside too and the kids were walking to me but mil acted as though she didnt see me, she just kept her head down. It has been 10 months since they spoke to me or even seen the kids. I am tired of them. I am tired and angry especially about the income tax refund! These people dont care about us. It's possible that your FIL is making sure you are getting the most possible net paychecks weekly, and only paying the amount required to cover the taxes you are liable for. You see, when you fill out your W-4 form, this guides the people who figure out how much to deduct from your paycheck, and issue the check to you. The W-4 is a tool to use, based on last year's taxes to help you balance how much taxes are taken out. The goal of the W-4 is to have the least amount of tax taken out of your paychecks, but cover the taxes you legally have to pay. (We all have to pay taxes, but why give more than you HAVE to?) In other words, if you want a refund, more taxes have to be taken out of your paycheck. And why would you want the government to sit on YOUR money all year, and then give some back to you? You could be putting that extra $20 or so that they would withhold from your paychecks into a savings account. Then YOU would be earning interest on YOUR money, instead of the government. Before you decide your FIL is being selfish or something, look over your tax forms to see what he has been doing, get advice from somebody who knows taxes, or do your taxes yourself. In my house, we go for the least taxes taken from the paycheck. We don't make as big of a refund at the end of the year, but we have savings all year round because we can afford to sock it away. |
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December 9, 2005, 1:14 pm PST
Quote From: jb7ctx My husband has worked with his father in his fathers bussiness ever since he was a teen. He is now in his 30's. We have children. We have been married for almost 7 years now and for the last 6 years, we have never received a tax refund. My husbands gross pay is 600.00/week. His father holds out 100.00/week for child support that my husband owes and 100.00/week for taxes. His bring home pay is 400.00/week. His father claims him as a partner in his bussiness (even though he really isnt). He does this for tax purposes only. His father holds these taxes out of my husbands check but we never get a refund. The tax accountant said that my husbands refund is being rolled over to pay his social security that he owes. (now keep in mind his father holds this money out of my husbands check). So therefore we are not entitled to a refund, we have to pay! my husband told his father last year that he had better send in his taxes so we can get a refund for this year. But guess what? We have to pay again! (actually, we just dont get a refund). Shouldnt his father have to pay us our refund himself since he held the money out of his check? My husband is not a partner with his dad in his dads bussiness. My husband has never received any profits of the money made. His dad does this for his own tax purposes! I feel we are being cheated out of our refund by his father. This year my husband is doing his own bussiness and he has his own employees that he has to pay. He is no longer working for his dad. BUT...his dad is planning on claiming my husband again NEXT year as his partner. He cant do this! My husband is scared to say anything to his dad for some reason. But I am tired of it. We are entitled to unearned income due to the kids, but dont get it because of his father claiming my husband as his partner when he really isnt! How can I get my husband to "open" his eyes as to what is going on, before I decide to leave him because of it? His parents dont have anything to do with us. They are such control freaks over my husband. They use my husband to their own gain. How can I stop this?
Harobe, glad to see you back! The inlaws came down about 3 weeks ago but did not get out of the truck. They had to get something from my husband. Our kids were walking right in front of the truck and my mil said hey to my son but my son just looked at her and kept on walking. Our daughter was right next to my son and she didnt even say anything to her. I was outside too and the kids were walking to me but mil acted as though she didnt see me, she just kept her head down. It has been 10 months since they spoke to me or even seen the kids. I am tired of them. I am tired and angry especially about the income tax refund! These people dont care about us. Does your FIL control the payroll and do everybody's taxes himself? Do you have a CPA to take care of your new business taxes? There shouldn't be a problem with giving the new CPA your personal taxes to do. Your FIL can't claim your husband as a partner unless there is documentation to that effect. Is he filed with the secretary of state in your state as a partner in this business? If he is, then he will need to "sell" his interest in the company to your FIL to get his name removed. This may require a lawyer, but if you threaten to bring one in to resolve this your FIL will probably be willing to work it out without one. After all, why would he want to "buy out" his son? But that's something else you could consider, making him cough up what you think he owes you in back tax refunds never issued as his buy out. As far as the government is concerned, you are responsible for your taxes, ignorance is no excuse. If there are shady dealings going on I think I would want to know as soon as possible. |
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May 23, 2007, 10:11 pm PDT
Quote From: jb7ctx My husband has worked with his father in his fathers bussiness ever since he was a teen. He is now in his 30's. We have children. We have been married for almost 7 years now and for the last 6 years, we have never received a tax refund. My husbands gross pay is 600.00/week. His father holds out 100.00/week for child support that my husband owes and 100.00/week for taxes. His bring home pay is 400.00/week. His father claims him as a partner in his bussiness (even though he really isnt). He does this for tax purposes only. His father holds these taxes out of my husbands check but we never get a refund. The tax accountant said that my husbands refund is being rolled over to pay his social security that he owes. (now keep in mind his father holds this money out of my husbands check). So therefore we are not entitled to a refund, we have to pay! my husband told his father last year that he had better send in his taxes so we can get a refund for this year. But guess what? We have to pay again! (actually, we just dont get a refund). Shouldnt his father have to pay us our refund himself since he held the money out of his check? My husband is not a partner with his dad in his dads bussiness. My husband has never received any profits of the money made. His dad does this for his own tax purposes! I feel we are being cheated out of our refund by his father. This year my husband is doing his own bussiness and he has his own employees that he has to pay. He is no longer working for his dad. BUT...his dad is planning on claiming my husband again NEXT year as his partner. He cant do this! My husband is scared to say anything to his dad for some reason. But I am tired of it. We are entitled to unearned income due to the kids, but dont get it because of his father claiming my husband as his partner when he really isnt! How can I get my husband to "open" his eyes as to what is going on, before I decide to leave him because of it? His parents dont have anything to do with us. They are such control freaks over my husband. They use my husband to their own gain. How can I stop this?
Harobe, glad to see you back! The inlaws came down about 3 weeks ago but did not get out of the truck. They had to get something from my husband. Our kids were walking right in front of the truck and my mil said hey to my son but my son just looked at her and kept on walking. Our daughter was right next to my son and she didnt even say anything to her. I was outside too and the kids were walking to me but mil acted as though she didnt see me, she just kept her head down. It has been 10 months since they spoke to me or even seen the kids. I am tired of them. I am tired and angry especially about the income tax refund! These people dont care about us. I'm not sure who is doing your taxes....but I can see that the tax accountant and probably your tax person is clueless!
Unless its a formal partnership (an LLC or a Corporation), your hubby isn't being "claimed" on his taxes. The way it sounds is that your in-law is paying hubby contract labor. Contract labor is taken from the income of the company along with the other expenses of the business. Your hubby's pay is just an expense on the in-law's tax return. NO claiming involved. The income and employement taxes are paid by the person receiving the pay in that case. He is considered self employed and should file a Schedule C for his income. EARNED Income tax credit can be claimed on this income unless your income is above the maximum. For a married couple with 2 kids it ends totally at around $35,000.
To stop the "control".....tell hubby to find another job or start asking for the tax portion of the pay and find a tax professional. You should find one and have the past three years of returns checked. After 3 years you can't collect any refund that may be due you because of an error. A tax form called a 1040X can be filed.
Hope this helps.... Gina |
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July 3, 2007, 6:05 am PDT
Quote From: jb7ctx My husband has worked with his father in his fathers bussiness ever since he was a teen. He is now in his 30's. We have children. We have been married for almost 7 years now and for the last 6 years, we have never received a tax refund. My husbands gross pay is 600.00/week. His father holds out 100.00/week for child support that my husband owes and 100.00/week for taxes. His bring home pay is 400.00/week. His father claims him as a partner in his bussiness (even though he really isnt). He does this for tax purposes only. His father holds these taxes out of my husbands check but we never get a refund. The tax accountant said that my husbands refund is being rolled over to pay his social security that he owes. (now keep in mind his father holds this money out of my husbands check). So therefore we are not entitled to a refund, we have to pay! my husband told his father last year that he had better send in his taxes so we can get a refund for this year. But guess what? We have to pay again! (actually, we just dont get a refund). Shouldnt his father have to pay us our refund himself since he held the money out of his check? My husband is not a partner with his dad in his dads bussiness. My husband has never received any profits of the money made. His dad does this for his own tax purposes! I feel we are being cheated out of our refund by his father. This year my husband is doing his own bussiness and he has his own employees that he has to pay. He is no longer working for his dad. BUT...his dad is planning on claiming my husband again NEXT year as his partner. He cant do this! My husband is scared to say anything to his dad for some reason. But I am tired of it. We are entitled to unearned income due to the kids, but dont get it because of his father claiming my husband as his partner when he really isnt! How can I get my husband to "open" his eyes as to what is going on, before I decide to leave him because of it? His parents dont have anything to do with us. They are such control freaks over my husband. They use my husband to their own gain. How can I stop this?
Harobe, glad to see you back! The inlaws came down about 3 weeks ago but did not get out of the truck. They had to get something from my husband. Our kids were walking right in front of the truck and my mil said hey to my son but my son just looked at her and kept on walking. Our daughter was right next to my son and she didnt even say anything to her. I was outside too and the kids were walking to me but mil acted as though she didnt see me, she just kept her head down. It has been 10 months since they spoke to me or even seen the kids. I am tired of them. I am tired and angry especially about the income tax refund! These people dont care about us. Your situation is very similiar to my own. My in laws have been manipulating my husband for years. When my FIL was diagnosed with cancer a few years back, I offered to help out at the shop to answer phones, and such. I did this to help out my husband. I felt bad for him doing the work of two men.I worked there for about two and a half years. Finally my FIL's cancer went into remission. Oh, also did I mention that my FIL had retired during this time? So he gets his SS money, as does my MIL, and they get paid weekly through the shop. The shop also pays their house payment , fuel bill, and other misc. bills. In Feb. of this year, my husband said he could not continue, to work in this manner. So of course this was a big family blowout. Needless to say my name was mentioned several times. Which I thought was nice since I was raised to always lend a helping hand. I have never recieved a thank you from them, which has been a little hurtful. I have absolutely no respect for them, and never will. It boggles my mind to think that people can be so selfish,and it is like they dont even realize it. Iwas glad to see that your problem was alot like mine. I felt like i was the only person this was happening to. As we speak my inlaws are on vacation, as my husband is working at the shop. I guess they need a vacation, they have worked so hard. I'm trying to remember our last vacation, ? Oh thats right we dont take one. Well, thanx for hearing me out. I hope things will start to look up for you. |
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July 8, 2007, 5:14 pm PDT
Quote From: jb7ctx My husband has worked with his father in his fathers bussiness ever since he was a teen. He is now in his 30's. We have children. We have been married for almost 7 years now and for the last 6 years, we have never received a tax refund. My husbands gross pay is 600.00/week. His father holds out 100.00/week for child support that my husband owes and 100.00/week for taxes. His bring home pay is 400.00/week. His father claims him as a partner in his bussiness (even though he really isnt). He does this for tax purposes only. His father holds these taxes out of my husbands check but we never get a refund. The tax accountant said that my husbands refund is being rolled over to pay his social security that he owes. (now keep in mind his father holds this money out of my husbands check). So therefore we are not entitled to a refund, we have to pay! my husband told his father last year that he had better send in his taxes so we can get a refund for this year. But guess what? We have to pay again! (actually, we just dont get a refund). Shouldnt his father have to pay us our refund himself since he held the money out of his check? My husband is not a partner with his dad in his dads bussiness. My husband has never received any profits of the money made. His dad does this for his own tax purposes! I feel we are being cheated out of our refund by his father. This year my husband is doing his own bussiness and he has his own employees that he has to pay. He is no longer working for his dad. BUT...his dad is planning on claiming my husband again NEXT year as his partner. He cant do this! My husband is scared to say anything to his dad for some reason. But I am tired of it. We are entitled to unearned income due to the kids, but dont get it because of his father claiming my husband as his partner when he really isnt! How can I get my husband to "open" his eyes as to what is going on, before I decide to leave him because of it? His parents dont have anything to do with us. They are such control freaks over my husband. They use my husband to their own gain. How can I stop this?
Harobe, glad to see you back! The inlaws came down about 3 weeks ago but did not get out of the truck. They had to get something from my husband. Our kids were walking right in front of the truck and my mil said hey to my son but my son just looked at her and kept on walking. Our daughter was right next to my son and she didnt even say anything to her. I was outside too and the kids were walking to me but mil acted as though she didnt see me, she just kept her head down. It has been 10 months since they spoke to me or even seen the kids. I am tired of them. I am tired and angry especially about the income tax refund! These people dont care about us. I feel ya girl. My husband works for the family business as well and if it wasn't for his efforts and work habits, his father wouldn't have a business. My husband has went as far as not getting a paycheck for a few weeks to get the company back on its' feet in the beginning! Meanwhile, his father uses the fact that his son (my husband) is a good person and wants his dads' business to succeed. He even uses his own personal credit cards to float the business from month to month and has to pull his dads teeth to get the expenses out of the man! His father his a liar and an idiot. If I were you I would get the man on the phone and tell him what you think! However, I don't really know how much good it would do. I have done the same with his dad but it doesn't work, I think the man is just too dense. It's like my Mama told me once, "PJ, don't ask anyone to apologize for being who they are. If they are chickensh*t, they are just chickensh*t." |
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