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September 14, 2007, 11:02 am PDT

Grandma Gets the SHAFT

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Hmmm... the first half sounds like it's gonna be another case of MIL vs. DIL... Can't really form any opinions until I see the show and get the full story behind that one...

 

But the second one... Hon, I'm so sorry that you had to marry a woman who is so cold and cruel as to marry you and then start sleeping around because she's gotten tired of the relationship. She should have talked to you instead and tried to fix the problems. It's disgusting how cruel some people can be in a relationship... If she doesn't agree to marriage counciling and trying to keep your marriage together, then I say get out and find a woman who's willing to show you the love that you've been denied!! (This is just my initial reaction from reading the description of the show, and I'll see if my opinion changes once I watch it on Friday.)

 

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Dear Dr. Phil:

This is my first time writing but I just had too.  I watched your epsiode with Grandma and her daughter-in-law.  The only thing that Grandma is guilty of is having too much love and not dispursing it in a healthly way.  That is it.  Her daugher in law probably put a lot of bad ideas into her husbands mind, like stealing her own grandaughter.  All that poor woman needs to do is learn how to lighten up on loving her grandaughter too much and wanting to give her too much of that love.  She just got divorced after how many years?  She just got careless with her love and that is all there is to this story of today!

 

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September 14, 2007, 2:53 pm PDT

Shame on Deanna

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Hmmm... the first half sounds like it's gonna be another case of MIL vs. DIL... Can't really form any opinions until I see the show and get the full story behind that one...

 

But the second one... Hon, I'm so sorry that you had to marry a woman who is so cold and cruel as to marry you and then start sleeping around because she's gotten tired of the relationship. She should have talked to you instead and tried to fix the problems. It's disgusting how cruel some people can be in a relationship... If she doesn't agree to marriage counciling and trying to keep your marriage together, then I say get out and find a woman who's willing to show you the love that you've been denied!! (This is just my initial reaction from reading the description of the show, and I'll see if my opinion changes once I watch it on Friday.)

 

Nightangel1282

  I tried to be objective, but couldn't see a reason to be so cold to someone who loves your children so much. Boundries, sure, but something doesn't seem right with that Deanna. And where is this wus of a son Shane??? He clearly plays both sides and can't face the mess he's created for his children.  My mother in law has crossed the line in ways I won't get into, but I could never let my daughter know or keep her from them...that's not because I'm some great person, just because iy honestly never occured to me, nor does it to most people.  Deanna and Shane are wrong and cruel and as Dr. P said SELF-RIGHTEOUS and dare I say self absorbed....thanks for the info on your Mercedes, Deanna.  Your a loser, but your kids are the ones really losing out.
 
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September 14, 2007, 4:25 pm PDT

How do you address your own children living with you

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Hmmm... the first half sounds like it's gonna be another case of MIL vs. DIL... Can't really form any opinions until I see the show and get the full story behind that one...

 

But the second one... Hon, I'm so sorry that you had to marry a woman who is so cold and cruel as to marry you and then start sleeping around because she's gotten tired of the relationship. She should have talked to you instead and tried to fix the problems. It's disgusting how cruel some people can be in a relationship... If she doesn't agree to marriage counciling and trying to keep your marriage together, then I say get out and find a woman who's willing to show you the love that you've been denied!! (This is just my initial reaction from reading the description of the show, and I'll see if my opinion changes once I watch it on Friday.)

 

Nightangel1282

We have a similiar situation in that the Mother constantly uses her children in manipulative ways in order to get her own way.  For example, she would take work schedules that are in direct conflict with caring for her children--knowing full well that we, her family, is left to pick up the stack for her absenteeism.  Yes, we know the simply answer may be to not make ourselves available as to be manipulated, but that position leaves the children without consistent care.  The consistency being us, the grandparents.  The Father is in and out of jail, our daughter is recklessly immature and unresponsive to discipline.  She has made some seriously poor decisions that has led to  her unability to have a place of her own. Additionally, she had constantly told lies and other "pity-party" stories to gain favor with outside people and non-family members in order to continue her strangle hold on us i.e., if we don't take care of the children who will?  We have been lambasted and criticized by people that we thought were our friends.  But what was happened is we have lost quite a few of what we thought were our friends due to her manipulations.   She is unable to have and maintain a decent relationship with anyone and is pointly jealous of the relationships we have had with others over the years.  She is a slacker that makes false promises, unkempt, foul-mouthed with a bad attitude living in our home.  She owes an abundant amount of money to creditors (private, state, and federal) and yet she lives in denial about the actions she, alone, created for herself in such a negative way.  There truly is no handbook for what a parent is to do with children who come back home, with there children, and cause so many problems.  She had been in therapy for a time, as a teen, when we paid for it.  We identified her problems early on and sought professional help. But as an Adult who seems to be a classic ADHD/BI-Polar, manipulative person, it is havoc on our household because she refuses to do anything to help herself and dares us, her parents, with constant confrontations and fights.  We truly don't mind helping with the children (although it has been to our detriment as we totally paid for eveything in sustaining there support), but we certainly do not want her.  She has turned out to be demon-seed with no visual means of doing anything to help herself and to stop causing problems.  Please give us the handbook or some solid advice on how we, the grandparents, can regain freedom of movement without strain.
 
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November 19, 2007, 7:14 am PST

OH yes

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Hmmm... the first half sounds like it's gonna be another case of MIL vs. DIL... Can't really form any opinions until I see the show and get the full story behind that one...

 

But the second one... Hon, I'm so sorry that you had to marry a woman who is so cold and cruel as to marry you and then start sleeping around because she's gotten tired of the relationship. She should have talked to you instead and tried to fix the problems. It's disgusting how cruel some people can be in a relationship... If she doesn't agree to marriage counciling and trying to keep your marriage together, then I say get out and find a woman who's willing to show you the love that you've been denied!! (This is just my initial reaction from reading the description of the show, and I'll see if my opinion changes once I watch it on Friday.)

 

Nightangel1282

I had a  so called 'friend' who did this to me big time. It took me a few years to realize it and catch her at it.  One time she told a lie about me right in front of  me, to a third party, she evidently had a 'need' to be in with.  Only she didn't want Me in with this lady. It was sick.  I was very sad at first.  But she once told me she wanted me 'all for herself', therefore she didn't want to share me with her friends.  Should I have been complimented?  I don't think so.  She is all sweet to everyone, but behind there back she gossips and spies on them.  Finally , I just walked away and never spoke to her again.  Of course she cried to all the other ladies...boohooo... and said she didn't know what she'd done.  But she got what she wanted, except for ME.  Who needs that? Just stay away from these evil people. Don't talk to them. Why should you have to fret about it.  They are unworthy of your time and your feelings.  Life is GREAT without this woman.  What a freak. I know she has to have serious issues to be so devious and back stabbing but I'm not her doctor and I don't care any more about her. Let someone else for her manipulations and lies. Good riddence to bad rubbish.

 
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November 22, 2007, 8:26 pm PST

Shame on Deanna!

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Hmmm... the first half sounds like it's gonna be another case of MIL vs. DIL... Can't really form any opinions until I see the show and get the full story behind that one...

 

But the second one... Hon, I'm so sorry that you had to marry a woman who is so cold and cruel as to marry you and then start sleeping around because she's gotten tired of the relationship. She should have talked to you instead and tried to fix the problems. It's disgusting how cruel some people can be in a relationship... If she doesn't agree to marriage counciling and trying to keep your marriage together, then I say get out and find a woman who's willing to show you the love that you've been denied!! (This is just my initial reaction from reading the description of the show, and I'll see if my opinion changes once I watch it on Friday.)

 

Nightangel1282

I am a grandmother to 8 with 6 children 5 of whom are married.  I have two biological sons that are married.  I felt  terrible for Linda tonight - a night of Thanksgiving!  Deanna is obviously jealous of the relationship Linda has with her son and her son is definitely a coward not being on the show and yet allowing it to happen.  It was obvious Deanna wears the pants and runs the home!  I too have had to balance my relationships but all of my daughter - in - laws have been reasonable and pretty fair up to this point.  The grandchildren are ages 2-11.  Dr. Phil you hit the nail on the head when you asked where (Sean?) was and why wasn't he on the show.  The disclosure letter was not worth the paper it was written on.  This son has a responsibility to be the peace maker in this environment!  The family system demands nothing less.  The daughter-in-law needs to be thankful her mother-in-law is alive and willing to take the time of day with her and her kids.  It is obvious Deanna has some issues - how nice she is working things out with her ex- too bad she WASN'T able to keep that marriage in tact!  Linda's son is in a difficult spot but he needs to roll up his sleves, park the Mercedes and engage in some family conflict resolution.  Maybe if he was not so obsessed with making money but instead worked on his relationship with his mom the women in his life would not be at such odds with each other!  It is interesting, Deanna does have the power but I wonder what she would be saying if Linda met someone and started jet-setting around the globe and did not give them the time of day.  She would really have some cause to Grandma bash-but it would fall on deaf ears.  I felt Linda was sincere however off balance and her heart was open and willing to meet half way.  Deanna was just looking for her 15 minute of fame!  Again, Happy Thanksgiving-shame on her!!!!

 


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