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October 29, 2007, 1:53 pm PDT

i agree

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Women have the right to ask for DNA to prove who fathered the child so why can't a man request the same procedure?  No one should be expected to pay child support for a child that is not theirs.  I also think the mother should be held legally responsible if she knows the child is not her husbands/boyfriends and lies to the courts about it.  It is about time that the rights of the mother and father be equal and that we throw out this anitquated theory favoring women in divorce.  I feel sorry for the child who finds out that his father really isn't his father and that his mother has been lying to him/her.  People do not realize the damage they do to children with their selfish acts.  If we insist that the man pay child support for a child that is not his we are giving the real father a free pass on his responsibilities and telling the mother what she did was acceptable. 

My fiance is prolly going to be in the same situation as the man today, and it just sucks because women  can choose who they want to be the father of the baby.  It's just sad that women can't admit to their mistakes ,and say that they messed up and lied ,as opposed to lying to not only the father but to their child.  So, then it messes with the relationship between the mother and child and "father" and child.  It's rather sad.  I think they should have to be charged criminally and reinburst the "father" with money that he previously paid for child support. It shouldn't just be a slap on the wrist situation, it should go on their record as some sort of fraud.
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:03 pm PDT

Father's Rights

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Women have the right to ask for DNA to prove who fathered the child so why can't a man request the same procedure?  No one should be expected to pay child support for a child that is not theirs.  I also think the mother should be held legally responsible if she knows the child is not her husbands/boyfriends and lies to the courts about it.  It is about time that the rights of the mother and father be equal and that we throw out this anitquated theory favoring women in divorce.  I feel sorry for the child who finds out that his father really isn't his father and that his mother has been lying to him/her.  People do not realize the damage they do to children with their selfish acts.  If we insist that the man pay child support for a child that is not his we are giving the real father a free pass on his responsibilities and telling the mother what she did was acceptable. 

Men can request a DNA test. What we were told by the court system in Iowa, however, was that if the biological mother doesn't want to have the test done, there's nothing the man can do, without a court order. That was several years ago and that info may not have been correct. They don't like to hear from the fathers, is my feeling.

I want to make a point about Gloria Allred's comment at the end of the show. She made a comment about dads who don't want to pay support when court ordered. What about the moms who refuse to pay court ordered child support? My husband has custody of his 2 boys from his previous marriage. She's only court ordered $200/mo (2 kids!!!) and won't pay. When Child Support Recovery catches up to her and threatens to take away her driver's license or do community service (ooh, that gets my step-sons their support!), she gets a minimum wage job and works long enough to get them off her back then quits or gets herself fired. Then it's this reason or that why she can't work. Now it's another reason. Tough. She laid down and created these boys, be responsible! He's forced to allow her visitation, even though it's not good for the boys (long, long and terribly sad story); but the courts refuse to see the damage she's done. But she doesn't have to support them?! She's over $10,000 behind! We live paycheck to paycheck, but too much to qualify for state aid and that's why the state won't help us get the money. If we were on the welfare system, they'd go after her - like they did my husband when she had custody and he was $750 behind. The court threatened him with prison time for $750 and she's $10,000 behind. Yep, that's fair.

Look to the heart, in the matter of the father who's not the father. If they truly love that child, it shouldn't matter if it's biologically their's or not. You support them because you love them. Does a piece of paper really change the heart? If it does, that's sad. They're children. It's not their fault the mother lied. Love them. I support my step-sons. Actually, other than to explain the facts, I don't call them my step-sons. They're every bit as much my sons as the 3 I gave birth to.
 
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October 29, 2007, 8:51 pm PDT

Men do have the right

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Women have the right to ask for DNA to prove who fathered the child so why can't a man request the same procedure?  No one should be expected to pay child support for a child that is not theirs.  I also think the mother should be held legally responsible if she knows the child is not her husbands/boyfriends and lies to the courts about it.  It is about time that the rights of the mother and father be equal and that we throw out this anitquated theory favoring women in divorce.  I feel sorry for the child who finds out that his father really isn't his father and that his mother has been lying to him/her.  People do not realize the damage they do to children with their selfish acts.  If we insist that the man pay child support for a child that is not his we are giving the real father a free pass on his responsibilities and telling the mother what she did was acceptable. 

to a paternity test but in cases of mariage, or where an acknowledgement of paternity have already taken place, the man has fewer rights.

 

Some states have a presumtive father registry. Men who think they might be the father of an unborn child need to sign up for it, that way their rights are more protected.

 

Women though need to be held accountable for their actions. So many don't even think of the child, they just want that child support check.

 
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November 15, 2007, 9:39 pm PST

Parent Trap

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Women have the right to ask for DNA to prove who fathered the child so why can't a man request the same procedure?  No one should be expected to pay child support for a child that is not theirs.  I also think the mother should be held legally responsible if she knows the child is not her husbands/boyfriends and lies to the courts about it.  It is about time that the rights of the mother and father be equal and that we throw out this anitquated theory favoring women in divorce.  I feel sorry for the child who finds out that his father really isn't his father and that his mother has been lying to him/her.  People do not realize the damage they do to children with their selfish acts.  If we insist that the man pay child support for a child that is not his we are giving the real father a free pass on his responsibilities and telling the mother what she did was acceptable. 

 I agree with this respondent, but I also believe that the real father should be tracked down and have to take responsiblity for the child he has sired.
 
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December 30, 2007, 10:04 pm PST

There is no such thing as Equal Rights anymore

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Women have the right to ask for DNA to prove who fathered the child so why can't a man request the same procedure?  No one should be expected to pay child support for a child that is not theirs.  I also think the mother should be held legally responsible if she knows the child is not her husbands/boyfriends and lies to the courts about it.  It is about time that the rights of the mother and father be equal and that we throw out this anitquated theory favoring women in divorce.  I feel sorry for the child who finds out that his father really isn't his father and that his mother has been lying to him/her.  People do not realize the damage they do to children with their selfish acts.  If we insist that the man pay child support for a child that is not his we are giving the real father a free pass on his responsibilities and telling the mother what she did was acceptable. 

Equal Rights?  Is that a new concept?  I doubt that is PC, better not talk about it. LOL  Men have no rights especially once they concieve and apparently if they do not concieve but are accused they will  have no rights either.

 

God bless the U.S.A. !!!!!!!!!!!  We need a lot of lousy judges off the bench is all I can say.  We need some stiff laws and to overhaul family courts, family law, and divorce laws.  They are all lopsided in favor of the woman and create a climate ripe for abuse. 

 
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April 3, 2008, 9:20 am PDT

PATERNITY TEST KITS - OVER THE COUNTER

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Women have the right to ask for DNA to prove who fathered the child so why can't a man request the same procedure?  No one should be expected to pay child support for a child that is not theirs.  I also think the mother should be held legally responsible if she knows the child is not her husbands/boyfriends and lies to the courts about it.  It is about time that the rights of the mother and father be equal and that we throw out this anitquated theory favoring women in divorce.  I feel sorry for the child who finds out that his father really isn't his father and that his mother has been lying to him/her.  People do not realize the damage they do to children with their selfish acts.  If we insist that the man pay child support for a child that is not his we are giving the real father a free pass on his responsibilities and telling the mother what she did was acceptable. 

Paternity test kits are the latest example of how genetics testing is pushing into the consumer marketplace, fueling competition not only in paternity issues but also in ancestry research (many purchasers are adults who still have questions about who their parents are or were).  Genetic paternity tests are widely available online.  Experts are warning consumers that some laboratories doing the testing are not required to meet federal or any genetic testing standards.

 

Over-the-counter test kits are now available.  These over-the-counter test kits are now available in some local stores - except those in New York, where state law requires a court order or medical prescription. 

 

www.dnatesting.com 


The kits cost about $30. They contain cotton swabs for taking cells from inside the mouth, which are then placed in sealed plastic bags and sent with a consent form and an additional fee to an accredited lab.  Results are available in three to five days and can be accessed online.  Assuming that the information listed on the form sent in with paternity kits is correct, the test is 99.9 percent accurate for paternity. 


The tests cannot be used in legal proceedings because there is no verification that the samples come from the people who are listed on the forms sent to the laboratory. Legally valid tests cost about $350 with Identigene. 

 

With some paternity tests advertised on the Web for as little as $89.  Buy from a company whose laboratory is accredited for crime scene processing and by the American Association of Blood Banks, which set standards for handling and processing samples.

 

Hope it helps!

 

 
 
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