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October 8, 2005, 11:22 am PDT

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I saw the clip of this show and I'm sure its going to upset me to watch.

Women, just because men treated us on the whole like slaves for centuries does not mean it is what God intended.

IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man. It doesn't make sense to me though, I know I wasn't made from man and that empowers me to realize I'm here to make up my own mind about how to let people (men) treat me.

BTW, my husband is a loving caring individual, and an excellent father. He does as much of the house cleaning and he listens to me.

I am in no way trying to start an arguement with anyone. I was just a little bothered by one of your remarks. "IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man." I do firmly believe this because it is in the BIBLE. And I wholeheartedly believe the bible. With that said, I am in no way a doormat to my husband. I choose to do all the laundry and cook all the meals but that is because I stay home with our kids. It's the least I can do for him. But when he gets home if I haven't felt well or had a rough day and dinner isn't made there is definitely no fights. He is more than willing to come home and make dinner or at least help with making dinner. He understands that just because I am a "Stay at home MOM" doesn't mean I sit around all day and watch soaps or the DR Phil show. I actually record the show and watch it later in the night while I am in bed. And just another note...Woman actually means.."from man" so yes dear you were made from man. God created Eve WITH Adam's rib. If you weren't made from man what were you made from?? Just a question. I am happy that you are married to a caring individual and that he is willing to help. But just because I believe what you don't doesn't mean that My husband isn't willing to help. He is more than willing. We share all the household cleaning equally. Yes during the week I keep the house neat and clutter free, but come the weekend we are BOTH cleaning the house. I wish you the best of luck in your marriage and GOD BLESS

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October 8, 2005, 11:24 am PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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I saw the clip of this show and I'm sure its going to upset me to watch.

Women, just because men treated us on the whole like slaves for centuries does not mean it is what God intended.

IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man. It doesn't make sense to me though, I know I wasn't made from man and that empowers me to realize I'm here to make up my own mind about how to let people (men) treat me.

BTW, my husband is a loving caring individual, and an excellent father. He does as much of the house cleaning and he listens to me.

Looks like you have some issues within inside your self,

Do you go to your husbands work and help him during the day? I think not. If it wasn't for your husband you would be taking care of your kids and working because I'm sure your the type of woman that would keep your kids from you husband for the sole purpose of receiving child support. So maybe you should get off your butt and stop watching TV and surfing the NET all day.

If you are such a caring and loving person you would be able to look past all of this and accept your position in life. Remember your the Mommy, NOT the Daddy. So put on a nice dress and cook some muffins for your kids and you husband, and have them ready for him the next time he walks in the door.

Bill Jinkens

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October 10, 2005, 1:51 am PDT

the rib symbol side by side (equality)

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I saw the clip of this show and I'm sure its going to upset me to watch.

Women, just because men treated us on the whole like slaves for centuries does not mean it is what God intended.

IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man. It doesn't make sense to me though, I know I wasn't made from man and that empowers me to realize I'm here to make up my own mind about how to let people (men) treat me.

BTW, my husband is a loving caring individual, and an excellent father. He does as much of the house cleaning and he listens to me.

Why wasn't Eve formed from Adam's head or foot? Why was eve created from Adam's ribs? Whether you choose to understand the story literally or figuratively, one should understand that Eve was not created from Adam's foot implying that she should follow. Nor was she created from his head implying that she should be the sole leader. Rather the concept of her being created from the ribs symbolizes that Adam and Eve are equal and walk the path side by side.

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October 10, 2005, 2:45 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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I saw the clip of this show and I'm sure its going to upset me to watch.

Women, just because men treated us on the whole like slaves for centuries does not mean it is what God intended.

IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man. It doesn't make sense to me though, I know I wasn't made from man and that empowers me to realize I'm here to make up my own mind about how to let people (men) treat me.

BTW, my husband is a loving caring individual, and an excellent father. He does as much of the house cleaning and he listens to me.

I would just like to say that so many of these women don't realize that 20 yrs ago many women didn't have the CHOICES we have now. you can CHOOSE to stay at home, you can CHOOSE to go to work. You can CHOOSE to do either or both. However, the downside for me is that now I feel as if women are expected to do it all. What I'd like to know is when did it stop being shameful to be a man who didn't take care of his family properly?? If I had a husband who took care of his family properly, maybe I'd have the luxury of being a stay at home mom.

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October 10, 2005, 5:46 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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I saw the clip of this show and I'm sure its going to upset me to watch.

Women, just because men treated us on the whole like slaves for centuries does not mean it is what God intended.

IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man. It doesn't make sense to me though, I know I wasn't made from man and that empowers me to realize I'm here to make up my own mind about how to let people (men) treat me.

BTW, my husband is a loving caring individual, and an excellent father. He does as much of the house cleaning and he listens to me.

Obviously this person believes that all Christian husbands are domineering and all wives are submissive. I have been married 19 years and we have mutual respect for each other. How do you

know what "God intended" if you don't believe that woman was created from a man's rib? I believe marriage is a partnership with someone you love and respect. And some people don't have respect for their spouse. Maybe he needs a maid and mistress, instead of a wife. That way he will be the boss he wants to be.

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October 10, 2005, 8:07 pm PDT

Adam's rib?

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I saw the clip of this show and I'm sure its going to upset me to watch.

Women, just because men treated us on the whole like slaves for centuries does not mean it is what God intended.

IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man. It doesn't make sense to me though, I know I wasn't made from man and that empowers me to realize I'm here to make up my own mind about how to let people (men) treat me.

BTW, my husband is a loving caring individual, and an excellent father. He does as much of the house cleaning and he listens to me.

God made woman by taking a rib from Adam's side--not from his foot to be beneath him or from his head to be above him but his side to be next to him. God intended man and woman to work together in a harmonious relationship. That means giving to each other 100% and loving each other like Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it. Contrary to what you say, you WERE made from man (and woman). There is NO one who doesn't have both a mother AND a father. Even Jesus Christ had a mother (earthly) and father (heavenly). This does NOT mean that the man (or the woman) has "control" over the other. It is a matter of choice--are you willing to GIVE to your mate and make your marriage the best you can as your mate gives to you. It is a 2-way street and it ISN'T about "me." It's about US. I CHOOSE to stay home with my children and be a wife and mother while my kids were growing up. However, I'm like some mothers who go stark raving mad just doing "wifey" things all the time. I worked out part time (2 to 3 days a week or about 70 days/year) from the time my kids were 1 and 3. It was just enought to regain my sanity and put me in touch with some adults. I still kept the house "clean enough to be healthy and dirty enough to be happy," grew and preserved our vegetables, made meals, and all the other wifey/motherly things, too. I think ALL women must choose what best suits them. There is no real WRONG choice unless it is neglecting their families. We really can't judge another person on what they do until we have walked a mile in their shoes.

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October 10, 2005, 8:21 pm PDT

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I saw the clip of this show and I'm sure its going to upset me to watch.

Women, just because men treated us on the whole like slaves for centuries does not mean it is what God intended.

IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man. It doesn't make sense to me though, I know I wasn't made from man and that empowers me to realize I'm here to make up my own mind about how to let people (men) treat me.

BTW, my husband is a loving caring individual, and an excellent father. He does as much of the house cleaning and he listens to me.

If you know that you were not made as the Bible states, then how do you believe you were made?

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December 28, 2005, 11:35 am PST

Your bible quotes are off

Quote From: mlrocz

I saw the clip of this show and I'm sure its going to upset me to watch.

Women, just because men treated us on the whole like slaves for centuries does not mean it is what God intended.

IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man. It doesn't make sense to me though, I know I wasn't made from man and that empowers me to realize I'm here to make up my own mind about how to let people (men) treat me.

BTW, my husband is a loving caring individual, and an excellent father. He does as much of the house cleaning and he listens to me.

The problem is not in "believing what [you] read", but in actually reading it ALL in stead of just select portions. The rib has nothing to do with why women are supposed to follow men (some scholars feel "side" is a more accurate translation than "rib") it is because eve listened to Satan and not Adam. At any rate, Christ is supposed to have forgiven ALL our sins.

There will always be some people who use religion to support their own views. That is not the fault of the religion, it is the fault of being human. It was not so long ago when many prominent church leaders declared that the Bible justified slavery. All but a fringe few now think that view was entirely incorrect and that it came from a MISREADING of the Bible. Is that the fault of the Bible? Of course not, it is the fault of fallible human beings.

You are free to believe as you wish. However, if you are going to criticize the Bible, then please be sure to give it some real study.

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February 21, 2006, 1:19 pm PST

12/28 Wifestyles

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I saw the clip of this show and I'm sure its going to upset me to watch.

Women, just because men treated us on the whole like slaves for centuries does not mean it is what God intended.

IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man. It doesn't make sense to me though, I know I wasn't made from man and that empowers me to realize I'm here to make up my own mind about how to let people (men) treat me.

BTW, my husband is a loving caring individual, and an excellent father. He does as much of the house cleaning and he listens to me.

I completely agree that that isn't how God intended for men to treat women. Just another thought about the whole women being created from Adam's rib...I do believe in God and what is writtin but I would have a major problem if a man treated me in such a degrading manner. I heard a quote once that I liked very much it was something like this...Woman was created from Adam's rib. Not his ear to be higher than he, and not from his foot to be walked upon, but from his rib to be equal at his side.

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February 22, 2006, 12:50 am PST

Adams rib

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I saw the clip of this show and I'm sure its going to upset me to watch.

Women, just because men treated us on the whole like slaves for centuries does not mean it is what God intended.

IF you honestly believe everything you read, for instance that woman was actually made from Adam's rib, then maybe you don't have a problem being told what to do by your man. It doesn't make sense to me though, I know I wasn't made from man and that empowers me to realize I'm here to make up my own mind about how to let people (men) treat me.

BTW, my husband is a loving caring individual, and an excellent father. He does as much of the house cleaning and he listens to me.

I am embarrased for you. If you are going to refer to the Bible, then know a bit more. Marraige is precious to God, so precious that He designed Eve for Adam because he needed a help mate, and yes, from Adam's own rib he created woman. When we marry, we become one flesh and the husband is to cleave to the wife and love her as Christ loved the church, willing to die for her. But, he is also the head of the family, not the dictator. He is to consider his wifes needs but in the end, what he says goes. The verse that says the wife should submit to her husband is one of comfort. It does not mean that I am under his thumb, it does not mean that I should have sex any time he wants. It means that, in a loving relationship where the husband loves his wife so much, that he takes responsiblity for making good choices for his family and the wife is to RESPECT his role as head. It gives me peace and comfort to submit to my husband this way as it is the way the Lord designed marraige.

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