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October 8, 2005, 7:53 pm PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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  I think that the mind set that we are seeing here from men is the last effects of the womens rights act.  I am 27 and I know that my husbands mother waited on her husbands and sons like a maid.  She only had 4 boys.  Even to this day when we go visit my husbands family, his mom makes all the meals, does all the cleaning and when everyone is done eating - they plop down in front of the TV while she does all the dishes and all with her make-up done and her high heels on.   The husbands wives however are all expected to help with the cleaning and the cooking.  I refuse to bend on this one, so I get all the dirty looks and whispering because I clean my own plate, then go plop down in front of the TV with the guys.  This generation of men are grown up and expecting the same things.  Hopefully, we can raise our children to all be on a level playing field and finally break free from the past.  I am willing to bet that any man that has these expectations had a mother like this one. 

  

Ya, a stay at home wife has responsiblities to raise her kids in a clean house.  I don't mean immaculate for the husband - I mean clean of bacteria, any choking hazard, mold and so on.  A CLEAN HOUSE.  However, a wife should not ever have to run her house according to her husbands expectations.  My husband had to really let go of the roles he learning growing up.  He now realizes that his way isn't always the only way, and to fight with me and put me down over my hair not being done and the sink not shining is knit picking and hurtful to me.   

It sound like you described my mother in law and my husband :)     

  

 
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October 8, 2005, 10:58 pm PDT

I do the same thing

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  I think that the mind set that we are seeing here from men is the last effects of the womens rights act.  I am 27 and I know that my husbands mother waited on her husbands and sons like a maid.  She only had 4 boys.  Even to this day when we go visit my husbands family, his mom makes all the meals, does all the cleaning and when everyone is done eating - they plop down in front of the TV while she does all the dishes and all with her make-up done and her high heels on.   The husbands wives however are all expected to help with the cleaning and the cooking.  I refuse to bend on this one, so I get all the dirty looks and whispering because I clean my own plate, then go plop down in front of the TV with the guys.  This generation of men are grown up and expecting the same things.  Hopefully, we can raise our children to all be on a level playing field and finally break free from the past.  I am willing to bet that any man that has these expectations had a mother like this one. 

  

Ya, a stay at home wife has responsiblities to raise her kids in a clean house.  I don't mean immaculate for the husband - I mean clean of bacteria, any choking hazard, mold and so on.  A CLEAN HOUSE.  However, a wife should not ever have to run her house according to her husbands expectations.  My husband had to really let go of the roles he learning growing up.  He now realizes that his way isn't always the only way, and to fight with me and put me down over my hair not being done and the sink not shining is knit picking and hurtful to me.   

Maybe it's how I was raised, but I never have helped clean dishes at anyone's home. 

I was lucky on the role thing.  My husband came from a family of women, Mother, three sisters and one brother, all older.  He had a father figure untll he was 15 but he considers all the time spent with him as bad.    All of this molded my husband into the wonderful father and partner I now share my life with. 

I grew up in an unusual household myself.  My dad is an avid reader, a history teacher, opera lover, and conversationalist.  The first time I saw people watching sports on the holidays I was shocked.  We NEVER watched any sports at home, I'm lucky my husband only bothers to catch occasional home team games.   

 
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October 10, 2005, 7:08 am PDT

10/10 Wifestyles

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  I think that the mind set that we are seeing here from men is the last effects of the womens rights act.  I am 27 and I know that my husbands mother waited on her husbands and sons like a maid.  She only had 4 boys.  Even to this day when we go visit my husbands family, his mom makes all the meals, does all the cleaning and when everyone is done eating - they plop down in front of the TV while she does all the dishes and all with her make-up done and her high heels on.   The husbands wives however are all expected to help with the cleaning and the cooking.  I refuse to bend on this one, so I get all the dirty looks and whispering because I clean my own plate, then go plop down in front of the TV with the guys.  This generation of men are grown up and expecting the same things.  Hopefully, we can raise our children to all be on a level playing field and finally break free from the past.  I am willing to bet that any man that has these expectations had a mother like this one. 

  

Ya, a stay at home wife has responsiblities to raise her kids in a clean house.  I don't mean immaculate for the husband - I mean clean of bacteria, any choking hazard, mold and so on.  A CLEAN HOUSE.  However, a wife should not ever have to run her house according to her husbands expectations.  My husband had to really let go of the roles he learning growing up.  He now realizes that his way isn't always the only way, and to fight with me and put me down over my hair not being done and the sink not shining is knit picking and hurtful to me.   

I am 28 years old and I come from the same generation as you. But I DO NOT share your veiws. Yes I believe in respect from the opposite sex and Yes I believe there is more to a marriage than a clean house. But I do think it is our responsibility as a Wife and Mother to do the housework and Cook for our husbands I also believe It Is ME the Mother who should care for my chid, No one else. It is MY responsibility to raise and teach MY principles and values not the babysitter so I can run around or work Just to feel independent. That is my Husbands Job to work and provide Just as the Bible says. And no I have nothing against working mothers if THEY ABSOLUTLY HAVE TO That means if it is a matter of survival. God know I am not wealthy and we could use exta income but for now Raising my children and nurturing them the best I know how is WAY more important to their futures than the latest toys and Name brand clothing. I don't believe people really know how to be a family any more because they have gotten away from the basic way of life. If you don't understand that then I sugest you read your bible. and to end this discussion I must tell you that you were wrong not to help your mother in law and sisters in the clean up, whether you agree with it or not. You were an embarassment to your husband. No one seen you as an womens right activest. Instead they seen you as lazy and someone who thought she was better than they were. Next time help out a little its not going to kill you to try and get along with others who see things differantly than yourself. Serena WV
 
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October 11, 2005, 6:13 pm PDT

Wifestyles

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  I think that the mind set that we are seeing here from men is the last effects of the womens rights act.  I am 27 and I know that my husbands mother waited on her husbands and sons like a maid.  She only had 4 boys.  Even to this day when we go visit my husbands family, his mom makes all the meals, does all the cleaning and when everyone is done eating - they plop down in front of the TV while she does all the dishes and all with her make-up done and her high heels on.   The husbands wives however are all expected to help with the cleaning and the cooking.  I refuse to bend on this one, so I get all the dirty looks and whispering because I clean my own plate, then go plop down in front of the TV with the guys.  This generation of men are grown up and expecting the same things.  Hopefully, we can raise our children to all be on a level playing field and finally break free from the past.  I am willing to bet that any man that has these expectations had a mother like this one. 

  

Ya, a stay at home wife has responsiblities to raise her kids in a clean house.  I don't mean immaculate for the husband - I mean clean of bacteria, any choking hazard, mold and so on.  A CLEAN HOUSE.  However, a wife should not ever have to run her house according to her husbands expectations.  My husband had to really let go of the roles he learning growing up.  He now realizes that his way isn't always the only way, and to fight with me and put me down over my hair not being done and the sink not shining is knit picking and hurtful to me.   

You described my husband and in-laws to a 'T.'  He has been waited on hand and foot his entire life, and though we have been married 5 years, and after endless tries to "re-train" him, I'm exhausted.  His family told me that if/when we have children, I SHALL stay at home to raise them.  Well, my career is part of who I am as an individual, it's part of what makes me, me.  Some women are able to stay at home and are happy with that, however that is not my personality.  His family firmly believes that a woman's place is in the home - and well, I'm disrupting their Beaver Cleaver image.  Our marriage is currently in shambles because I want to be his wife, companion, friend, partner - not his mother.   

 
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October 12, 2005, 11:25 pm PDT

I Like What You Said

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  I think that the mind set that we are seeing here from men is the last effects of the womens rights act.  I am 27 and I know that my husbands mother waited on her husbands and sons like a maid.  She only had 4 boys.  Even to this day when we go visit my husbands family, his mom makes all the meals, does all the cleaning and when everyone is done eating - they plop down in front of the TV while she does all the dishes and all with her make-up done and her high heels on.   The husbands wives however are all expected to help with the cleaning and the cooking.  I refuse to bend on this one, so I get all the dirty looks and whispering because I clean my own plate, then go plop down in front of the TV with the guys.  This generation of men are grown up and expecting the same things.  Hopefully, we can raise our children to all be on a level playing field and finally break free from the past.  I am willing to bet that any man that has these expectations had a mother like this one. 

  

Ya, a stay at home wife has responsiblities to raise her kids in a clean house.  I don't mean immaculate for the husband - I mean clean of bacteria, any choking hazard, mold and so on.  A CLEAN HOUSE.  However, a wife should not ever have to run her house according to her husbands expectations.  My husband had to really let go of the roles he learning growing up.  He now realizes that his way isn't always the only way, and to fight with me and put me down over my hair not being done and the sink not shining is knit picking and hurtful to me.   

That is a great post.  I couldn't agree more.
 


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