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February 6, 2008, 8:10 am PST

This happens often! Protect the kids regardless.

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I think this could happen to anyone who ends up with pain and prescriptions. It happened to my late father in the 70's and 80's. He had several disc surgeries and ended up on  pain meds and he also was an alchoholic. Back then, I don't remember this being discussed in the media much, if at all. My father was always talking about young people taking drugs and getting hooked on them. Because his meds were legally prescribed he didn't consider himself being addicted. It was amazing to me and my mother that he was able to make that distinction being "illegal" and "legal" drugs and addiction. And evidently his doctors didn't worry about him being hooked either because they kept on prescribing the drugs.

I am a former felony probation/parole officer from Florida. I had quite a few decent, hard-working men and women who were on my caseload for fraud (getting fake prescriptions for pain killers, etc). These people all had REAL LIFE NORMAL injuries (such as back problems) that led them to LEGALLY take a very additictive drug. Once hooked, their lives spiraled downward and they were soon committing crimes to get the medicine that they were addicted to...

 

Bad things can and do happen to good people. Often it's the lack of good, close medical attention (either due to the fault of the patient and/or the fault of the doctor). Sadly in today's world, families aren't as close and don't watch over their loved ones and doctors don't give individual care and follow-up care.

 

When it comes to children, it DOESN'T MATTER HOW these people got addicted. The children MUST be protected from their drug-indicted parents. Family members should step in immediately. If they won't do it, than the State should!

 
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February 6, 2008, 4:12 pm PST

Pill Poppers

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I think this could happen to anyone who ends up with pain and prescriptions. It happened to my late father in the 70's and 80's. He had several disc surgeries and ended up on  pain meds and he also was an alchoholic. Back then, I don't remember this being discussed in the media much, if at all. My father was always talking about young people taking drugs and getting hooked on them. Because his meds were legally prescribed he didn't consider himself being addicted. It was amazing to me and my mother that he was able to make that distinction being "illegal" and "legal" drugs and addiction. And evidently his doctors didn't worry about him being hooked either because they kept on prescribing the drugs.

I am so proud of the sober sister for trying to help............ I hope she does not let these sisters make her feel guilty...........Thank GOD she called .......... maybe now the kids will stand a chance............ they sure do not belong in that house............ The mother does not deserve the CRAP she is being dealt either....... it is HER HOUSE isn't it........??????????? These drug users by choice................. probably do not even pay rent or help............ but they can sure put the blame every where except where it belongs...........THEMSELVES....

 

I too take pain meds but I have never abused them or felt high while using them.......and mine are prescribed.....by my DR.       ..  ,MY MAIN CONCERN IS THE KIDS AND THE SOBER SISTER................. THEY ARE THE ONES CAPABLE OF FEELING THE PAIN OF THE SITUATION............

 

 I am so angry at the sisters using that I could just spit.................. They have no feelings for anyone but themselves.............. PLEASE  PROTECT THOSE CHILDREN........... THEY DESERVE BETTER................

 

concerned in COLORADO

 
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February 7, 2008, 5:03 pm PST

02/06 Pill Popping Twins

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I think this could happen to anyone who ends up with pain and prescriptions. It happened to my late father in the 70's and 80's. He had several disc surgeries and ended up on  pain meds and he also was an alchoholic. Back then, I don't remember this being discussed in the media much, if at all. My father was always talking about young people taking drugs and getting hooked on them. Because his meds were legally prescribed he didn't consider himself being addicted. It was amazing to me and my mother that he was able to make that distinction being "illegal" and "legal" drugs and addiction. And evidently his doctors didn't worry about him being hooked either because they kept on prescribing the drugs.
I am sooo upset by what I seen and heard buy these twins!!!!!! There is no excuse for what they r doing. It seems like everybody is saying that it is ok for this to be happening but I don't think so!!! One twin is blaming her husbands doctors for her problems!!!! That is just a cop out. She knew what she was doing. And the other or even both are poor excuses for mothers!!!! I couldn't and wouldn't do that to my kids.
 
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February 8, 2008, 8:15 am PST

Addictions

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I think this could happen to anyone who ends up with pain and prescriptions. It happened to my late father in the 70's and 80's. He had several disc surgeries and ended up on  pain meds and he also was an alchoholic. Back then, I don't remember this being discussed in the media much, if at all. My father was always talking about young people taking drugs and getting hooked on them. Because his meds were legally prescribed he didn't consider himself being addicted. It was amazing to me and my mother that he was able to make that distinction being "illegal" and "legal" drugs and addiction. And evidently his doctors didn't worry about him being hooked either because they kept on prescribing the drugs.
I drank heavily for many years. When my youngest children were 3&4 I stopped and never looked back. I don't miss it. I, in fact, was injured on the job 22 years ago and take pain killers. I don't get enough relief but still try to deal with it and work. At one time my physician  told me he was concerned about me being addicted. I told him, "Well Doc, if my options are to be in chronic pain that controls my life and prevents me from sleeping I'm not real concerend about the addiction". What a choice to need to make. The V.A. has been so good to me. They tried to find all sorts of ways to make it possible for me to work without the pills. My pain and disposition were horrible. They are now finding new ways to help me. I have a friend who was in a vehicle accident last year. She objected to the doctors giving pain medication to chronically pained people. She now understands it. I actually talked to a woman while I was in college who'd had a severe auto accident and she had a standing order at the hospital that she could go into the emergency room for a pain shot. She told me that it was either that or suicide because the pain was so severe. She said she hoped to be off of that medication as she becomes more well. Science has not come up with a way of connecting pain in all cases. I remember reading about a football player who this past season (Brian Urlacher) who began having pain as I describe mine. They couldn't find a corresponding cause with the scans but they KNOW he's in pain. So they treat him via his complaints. They believe him but not me? I"m the empty  nest father of five children and my wife is that of five diffferent children. I do what I have to do to provide and that's it. Now they're talking about a patch for me. I'm in favor of that because it would dispense the medication in such a way that I would be living pain free. When my kids were still at home I would lay and cry in my sleep and then pop the pills when I first got up so that I could make it to work. What a terrible way to work. I took any pain shots the doc would give me. I went to a chiropractor daily for a long time for short term relief. Now I'm 56 years old and live in such a state as to need chronic help with the pain. My wife is the bes and understands. I get grumpy and she is so loving to me. I also found out that I have other mental health issues. I take a lot of meds to help with that. Whatever is causing all the pain doesn't matter a whole lot to me anymore. What matters is that I get relief. I actually had to get a POB in order to keep people from taking my meds. I'm a lucky man because my children understand and love me and if something were to happen so that I needed them for complete support and living arrangements they'd be there for me. I went to NYC to see my daughter after TG last year. She is so patient with me. She's so loving and caring and treats me with such great respect. I see the turmoil that these people are in and I'm so grateful that we don't live that way. God didn't intend for people to live like that and finding a way out of that is so important. Linda and I set some ground rules when we got married. No shows R rated or above. No arguing about money and don't let the kids split us up. We've had some pretty bad financial situations and have yet to blame one another. We are on our 17th year of marriage and I hae the perfect wife for me and she says I'm perfect for her. It's taken a long time to gain the trust o some of the kids. It's working, though, and we're getting things worked out. My mental health issues have taken a lot of perseverence on the family's part. I don't hide my mental health issues because I want others to find hope. I'm not embarrassed by it because I see it as a stepping stone and encouragement for others. I'm not necessarily happy about all the decisions I made but as of now I'm so happy that I've overcome and I have a family who loves me. I don't abuse the drugs and don't share them. I have people trying to get me to give them to them. Since I first started getting the meds that's been an issue. I don't share. Doc gives me enough for me and I have to control the number of pills I take so that I don't run out. If I share them then I won't have enough for me. If the doc is giving too many for a person they should never give them to another. That's why we have the medical system we have. Docs should be concerned about giving out so many pills. :Pills aren't the only solution. I can tell you that I've had to make decisions that were contrary to my original thinking. I didn't take meds unless I absolutely needed to. When it came to a point that I could see that it was either the pills or chronic and unmanageable pain I finally took the drugs. lsgg
 
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March 1, 2008, 1:56 pm PST

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I think this could happen to anyone who ends up with pain and prescriptions. It happened to my late father in the 70's and 80's. He had several disc surgeries and ended up on  pain meds and he also was an alchoholic. Back then, I don't remember this being discussed in the media much, if at all. My father was always talking about young people taking drugs and getting hooked on them. Because his meds were legally prescribed he didn't consider himself being addicted. It was amazing to me and my mother that he was able to make that distinction being "illegal" and "legal" drugs and addiction. And evidently his doctors didn't worry about him being hooked either because they kept on prescribing the drugs.
My Mother has battled presciption addicition for most of my life. After years of presciption abuse my oldest sister fell down the stairs at her home, hit her head and died last year. She had so many severe injuries from falls and accidents in the last 5 years of her life it was unbelievable. The police/ems were called to my sisters home so many times the cops that my poor brother-in-law was beating the crap out of my sister.   Still my Mom's & my sisters doctors continued to prescribe incredible amounts of pain meds, muscle relaxers and sleep meds. I noticed on this episode Dr. Phil said the twins were taking medications not prescibed to them. My Mom and sister would always justify the meds they were taking because all thier meds were prescibed to them by thier doctor's. We had all gone to the doctors and begged them, cursed them and threatened them to please stop prescribing all the medication, all to no avail. You are right, many doctor's don't care, they are legal, licensed drug dealers getting rich on other peoples misery no different than  a crack dealer. I blame the doctors for the loss of many years of my Mothers life and for the death of my sister. After my sisters death we took my Mom to UAMS in Little Rock where we found Dr. K. She got my Mom off most of the meds while stilly controlling the pain she has.   My other 2 sisters and I are so thankful we found UAMS for my Mom but so sad it was too late for my sister.
 


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