Topic : 02/21 More Wifestyles

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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 28, 2006, 12:29 pm PST

here it is

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What was the state of your marriage when you went on the Dr. Phil show?  Was he aware that your husband had just filed for divorce---for the second time?  Did he realize that these attitudes of yours were new-found?
Our marriage has been healthy for over a year since my husband had last filed for divorce and yes the show knew where I was coming from.
 
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February 28, 2006, 12:32 pm PST

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Thanks for pointing out that Amy asked for the list - I hadn't caught that.  Of course I think the issue of the list is overrated anyway, and nobody hears Grant's explanation that it wasn't a list of demands, it was his musings about what he thought wives should know.

Kelly said that the list was also Grant's attempt to be funny.  Afterall, he did have line dancing and hip hop dancing on the list. 

  

I agree, it's overrated. 


Diana 

 
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February 28, 2006, 12:43 pm PST

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I know this is going to sound extremely odd, considering there are almost 2500 messages posted to this one topic alone.  I am certainly no "pro" to message boards, but I have to say, this one is very difficult.  My problem is the extremely lenghty delay in the posting of each message.  By the time my message appears, there are so many other new messages, some of which may say the same thing, that it is beginning to feel like a waste of time.   

  

Don't get me wrong, I feel that the comments on this message board are very enlightening in many ways, both good and bad.  However, it would be much easier if each message could appear closer to real time, rather than 2-3 hours later.  At this rate, I don't know how anyone on this board has time to get anything done, least of all clean their homes.  (A little sarcasm, here!) 

  

I assume the main reason for the delay is so that the content of each message can be reviewed for offensive language and/or hurtful comments, but is that really necessary, as presumably, we are all adults?  And, after all,  if anything inappropriate is said, the person can be reported and I assume, removed from the board, right? 

  

Anyway, this is just one person's opinion, but I thought it worth mentioning.   

  

I must leave now.  Time to clean my house! 

  

Thanks 

  

Wow, that was fast!
 
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February 28, 2006, 12:47 pm PST

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Our marriage has been healthy for over a year since my husband had last filed for divorce and yes the show knew where I was coming from.

I personally think that if you have had a failed marriage, or problems in your current one that that just makes you more insightful to what you need to do to have a happy marriage. 

  

I think Amy's experience only makes her more educated on what works well and what doesn't work at all. 

  

  

Diana 

 
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February 28, 2006, 12:56 pm PST

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Ok, so for all you women out there who don't agree with respecting your husbands.... 

  

Wouldn't you rather have a happy husband who comes home at the end of the day and loves and appreciates you over a husband who becomes bitter and resentful because you choose to exercise your right to tell him to go pound sand when he asks you to do something? 

  

Diana 

Diana, there is a happy medium between telling your husband to "go pound sand," and doing whatever he asks of you, whenever he asks it. 

  

Just a couple of questions...do you ask your husband to do things for you?  Does he always do them?  If so, does he always do them exactly as you want them done?  Would you divorce him if he didn't? 

  

Marriage is not a one way street.  It is give and take, compromise and negotiation.  Just because one is female does not mean she has to lose herself or her individuality to make her husband happy.  It is very possible to be your own person, as well as a good wife and mother.  A perfect example of this is Robin McGraw, don't you think? 

 
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February 28, 2006, 1:00 pm PST

Kelly here

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I don't think that most of you stopped to listen to the 75 items.  They were very basic items and some of them Grant even said that he thought it would be fun for them.  I look at the list and think about how I can do most of those things in an hour. 

As for if my husband brought a list of things to me, I would definately take a look at the list.  Also, Kelly asked him for the list.  Did you get that part of the show?  She asked him to make a list so she could better understand what he was looking for.  It was a jumping off point.  I hope everyone can please remember that. 

  

Amy 

  

Hello all of you! A few comments have come to mind as I have been watching these boards. They are not defensive. I am just clarifying some things since it has provoked quite the discussion.  I did not ask Grant for the list of 75 things. That list was in response to our second show and the fact that he felt like he was "white knuckeling" it. He was asked what I still needed lessons in. He then told the show that he felt that any "domestic engineer" should have knowledge in those areas as well.  I asked Grant to tell me something specific that I could work on for him. Maybe ironing all his work shirts for a week, maybe cleaning off his desk-whatever. He could not give me an answer. He eventually told me he would have to get back to me. He did not get back to me.  I did the same thing in the kitchen. I asked him what he would like to see me cook. He has a hard time answering me.  Maybe it is because my cooking really does bite, or maybe he doesn't really know what he wants. I do believe it really is an attitude thing. It is how both of us feel on the inside. I do not mean to minimize how our home and environment contribute to how we both feel. It is just plain easier to breath in a clean and de cluttered home.   But even today, I believe that the only thing Grant knows for sure is that he wants less anxiety and fustration.  Ironically enough,  I too want less anxiety and fustration! Kelly
 
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February 28, 2006, 1:01 pm PST

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Diana, there is a happy medium between telling your husband to "go pound sand," and doing whatever he asks of you, whenever he asks it. 

  

Just a couple of questions...do you ask your husband to do things for you?  Does he always do them?  If so, does he always do them exactly as you want them done?  Would you divorce him if he didn't? 

  

Marriage is not a one way street.  It is give and take, compromise and negotiation.  Just because one is female does not mean she has to lose herself or her individuality to make her husband happy.  It is very possible to be your own person, as well as a good wife and mother.  A perfect example of this is Robin McGraw, don't you think? 

Um, I don't think I'm the one to comment on the McGraw's. 

  

But, yes I ask my husband to do things for me, and yes he pretty much always does them, because he knows that I do the same in return (give and take, two way street).  The only issue I have with my husband is when I send him to the grocery store and put oranges on there, he'll come back with only one or two.  So the next time I have to be really specific, like putting 5 organges or something and then he totally understands. 

  

I haven't lost myself, and I don't think Bree or Amy have either.  We've found ourselves in doing this job, and it's made us very happy. 
 

Diana 

 
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February 28, 2006, 1:06 pm PST

The 50's or 2006: Here's something to think about...

I dunno.  Maybe I'm just in a funk (I think that's a 60's term.)  But these issues that inflame so much passion in everyone this message board (and I'm one of you) seems so trivial.   I spent the morning in Juvenile Court advocating for the best interests of four kids who have been removed from their mother's home TWICE since 2001 due to the condition of the home.  This mom's history of maintaining a filthy home goes back to 1993, when the oldest child was born.  At the last removal the police noted that there was dog feces found throughout the home.  Their mother, at the first team meeting, stated that she had one thing she wanted to make sure everybody was clear on:  That her dog didn't do that, her 5 year old daughter did.  She now has two convictions for child endangering - and her kids back in her home under a Protective Supervision Order.  She sat in court today and testified that everything is just great in her home and asked the judge to lift the supervision order.    

  

Here are some of the things that I had to report to the judge after a year of services to the mother to improve her housekeeping skills:  That this mom and her five kids are living in a 2 bedroom home, but only one of the bedrooms is usable because the second one is completely filled from floor to ceiling with boxes of junk.  That two of the kids wet the bed every night, and mom doesn't use any kind of moisure barrier (or bed linens.)  Her solution?  She steam cleans their beds once a week and has the kids take a bath before school every other morning.   That she had been told for 3 months that it was not ok to leave the bottles of prescription medications in a pile in the middle of the living room floor, that she had only recently agreed to put the medicine in an upper kitchen cabinet but stated that she intended to put it back on the livingroom floor as soon as the protective order was lifted, and that she didn't seem to remember that one of her daughters had previously had to have her stomach pumped after ingesting medicine she had found.  (I dunno... I think I'd remember that myself.)  The mom had only taken the children to about half of their scheduled counseling sessions (they had been sexually molested by two relatives, and the 8 year old boy insists that mom molested him, too) because she just didn't have time, however mom stated that if the order was lifted she actually wanted to start taking them every week because of their increasing emotional problems.  Some unknown person had recently set fire to the outside of the house, but mom had no idea who did it.  The family has no table of any kind so the kids eat all their meals off the living room floor (mom won't let them sit on the couch to eat) right where the 11 year old daughter lays the baby's feces-laden diapers.   Mom doesn't think she needs anybody to teach her how to maintain a home.  I think you get the picture.   

  

Maybe what Grant (and all of us) needs to do is volunteer as a child advocate and see what kind of home conditions thousands of children in this country have to live in day in and day out.  Maybe then we'd be able to keep a little residue on the dishes when they come out of the dishwasher, the way the broom is hung in the pantry, or the way the laundry is folded in perspective.   

  

  

 
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February 28, 2006, 1:09 pm PST

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I personally think that if you have had a failed marriage, or problems in your current one that that just makes you more insightful to what you need to do to have a happy marriage. 

  

I think Amy's experience only makes her more educated on what works well and what doesn't work at all. 

  

  

Diana 

I think it makes her more insightful to what does and doesn't work in HER marriage. She looks at Grant and Kelly, thinks of her marriage, and draws conclusions. Grant reminds me of my ex-boyfriend, and I thank my lucky stars I got out with any self-esteem intact. I'm glad her relationship works now, and I'm REALLY glad I moved on to greener pastures! 

  

  

If there was a simple, easy formula for relationships, there wouldn't be over 2500 posts to this topic!  

  

Julie 

  

  

 
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February 28, 2006, 1:11 pm PST

Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands

     Yes, I realize this is Dr. Phil's site....and YES, I have TWO of his books...Self Matters & Family Matters.  But, I did want to say that I've also read other books and one of them is The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands.  A very good point Dr. Laura makes in this book is that men generally want to be the "dragon slayers" and feel respected and loved in their homes.  I am NOT by any means saying that I think Kelly is a BAD wife.  But, I would like to say that if she would simply make a little effort to look cute (not talking french maid outfit here!) when he comes home and greet him at the door with a meal prepared (or cooking) for her husband....he may feel a little more catered to and respected in his own home....and the end result just might be that he would get off her back a little!  Everyone gets what they want and everyone's happy.  Grant does strike me as a bit of a perfectionist and I obviously cannot say that is healthy for their marriage.  I just think that we women have more control over the atmosphere in our homes than we give ourselves credit for.  And if we would acknowledge and step up to that privilege and responsibility, our husbands would probably be happier and (consequentlyh) make US happier too!!!!!!!!! 

Kelly made the comment that she would like to be a better cook and have a cleaner home...and Dr. Phil acted as if she had just jumped on the wrong side of the aisle.   I DISAGREE COMPLETELY!!!!  I am a SAHM and I feel like my household is my job.  It is not my husband's job to come home after working all day and cook dinner for us....that is MY job....that's part of the deal of having the privilege to be home with my kids instead of sending them to daycare to be "babysat" by a complete stranger instead of "raised" by ME!!! 

I feel that Dr. Phil was WAY too soft on Kelly and a little too critical of Grant....let's get some balance AND perspective here....PLEASE!!!!
 

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