Topic : 02/21 More Wifestyles

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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 28, 2006, 1:14 pm PST

Wifely Duties

I saw the show today and was astonished by the fact this man had the balls to say these things to his wife. I myself am a stay at home Mom of three children of which two are school age and are also being homeschooled. I do keep the house clean and the laundry done and try to have meals on the table when he arrives home from work, but I do that out of wanting to make my husband happy and because that is my role. I don't do those things to meet his expectations. My husbands helps me in everything even though he works a job outside the home. After seeing this show today I see now more than ever how truly blessed I am to have the husband I do. 

I feel wifely duties add up to the following and only when the mother is stay at home. 

  

House clean includes laundry 

Meals home cooked 

Children happy and well taken care of 

Wife needs to take care of herself also, being a mother of three I am not always lucky to get a shower in everyday! 

Husband satisfied! 

  

I just hope this man can learn to appreciate his wife more. I know from experience, once he learns to appreciate his wife for who she is and how she does things, they will as a couple be more happy. A famous saying that was always said when I was growing up, "If momma aint happy aint nobody happy!" 

 
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February 28, 2006, 1:32 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

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Hello all of you! A few comments have come to mind as I have been watching these boards. They are not defensive. I am just clarifying some things since it has provoked quite the discussion.  I did not ask Grant for the list of 75 things. That list was in response to our second show and the fact that he felt like he was "white knuckeling" it. He was asked what I still needed lessons in. He then told the show that he felt that any "domestic engineer" should have knowledge in those areas as well.  I asked Grant to tell me something specific that I could work on for him. Maybe ironing all his work shirts for a week, maybe cleaning off his desk-whatever. He could not give me an answer. He eventually told me he would have to get back to me. He did not get back to me.  I did the same thing in the kitchen. I asked him what he would like to see me cook. He has a hard time answering me.  Maybe it is because my cooking really does bite, or maybe he doesn't really know what he wants. I do believe it really is an attitude thing. It is how both of us feel on the inside. I do not mean to minimize how our home and environment contribute to how we both feel. It is just plain easier to breath in a clean and de cluttered home.   But even today, I believe that the only thing Grant knows for sure is that he wants less anxiety and fustration.  Ironically enough,  I too want less anxiety and fustration! Kelly

Kelly, it is great hearing from you.  Grant may be simply dissatisfied with himself and if this is the case, it has nothing to do with you.  Do not let Grant, or anyone else, make you feel that you don't measure up to some fantasy version of the ideal wife and mother, as there is no such thing.  Keep your chin up and your head held high.    

  

I wish only the best for you and your children! 

 
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February 28, 2006, 2:01 pm PST

you don't judge???????????

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See the thing is...I'm not trying to "judge" anybody like you think. 

  

You'll see that most of my posts are in response to something that was said about me, or just in a debate.  If somebody wants to sit around all day, then so be it, but in my opinion, her husband will grow tired of it sooner or later.  Maybe he won't, who knows. 

  

I put my opinion out there and you can take it or leave it, really.  If anybody finds my information useful, then great. 


Diana 

Diana--- 

You have told just about everybody here that disagrees with you on how important cleaning and organizing is or is not, that they are headed for divorce!  And many of these women have had marriages that have lasted longer than you are old!  You've said that just about as many times as you've told us you can clean your house in 20 minutes! 

 
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February 28, 2006, 2:07 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

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Hello all of you! A few comments have come to mind as I have been watching these boards. They are not defensive. I am just clarifying some things since it has provoked quite the discussion.  I did not ask Grant for the list of 75 things. That list was in response to our second show and the fact that he felt like he was "white knuckeling" it. He was asked what I still needed lessons in. He then told the show that he felt that any "domestic engineer" should have knowledge in those areas as well.  I asked Grant to tell me something specific that I could work on for him. Maybe ironing all his work shirts for a week, maybe cleaning off his desk-whatever. He could not give me an answer. He eventually told me he would have to get back to me. He did not get back to me.  I did the same thing in the kitchen. I asked him what he would like to see me cook. He has a hard time answering me.  Maybe it is because my cooking really does bite, or maybe he doesn't really know what he wants. I do believe it really is an attitude thing. It is how both of us feel on the inside. I do not mean to minimize how our home and environment contribute to how we both feel. It is just plain easier to breath in a clean and de cluttered home.   But even today, I believe that the only thing Grant knows for sure is that he wants less anxiety and fustration.  Ironically enough,  I too want less anxiety and fustration! Kelly

Kelly....good to hear from you! It must be very strange to have so many people vehemently weighing in on you and your marriage. 

  

I know you have received so much advice....mine has nothing to do with your house. After I broke up with MY electrical engineer, I was devastated. He was hyper critical and dangled the approval/commitment carrot just close enough to keep me jumping through hoops to please him.My mother gave me Life Strategies to read, and told me to read like it was a mirror. I had never even heard of Dr Phil!  

  

If you haven't already read it, it is easy to read and think of others, but you need to concentrate on yourself....not because you are wrong, but because you can't fix other people! I sobbed reading the book. As much as I believe my ex was emotionally abusive (Dr Phil defines the withholding of affection as a form of abuse), I had to concentrate on how I allowed myself to be a victim and seriously trained him how to treat me.  

  

The book changed me from the inside out. I realize that you are married with three kids, so you should exhaust every option before considering leaving. If you figure out how to love and value yourself as much as you love and value your husband, I think you will find peace. 

  

For the record, I think you handle yourself with amazing dignity. I don't want to bash Amy, but I'm not sure it was a great idea to have a stranger weigh in on your marriage on TV. I don't think it's a winning situation for anybody. 

  

If this is of no help, please disregard it completely. I hope you and Grant find a way to be truly happy. 

  

Julie 

 
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February 28, 2006, 2:13 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

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I don't think that most of you stopped to listen to the 75 items.  They were very basic items and some of them Grant even said that he thought it would be fun for them.  I look at the list and think about how I can do most of those things in an hour. 

As for if my husband brought a list of things to me, I would definately take a look at the list.  Also, Kelly asked him for the list.  Did you get that part of the show?  She asked him to make a list so she could better understand what he was looking for.  It was a jumping off point.  I hope everyone can please remember that. 

  

Amy 

  

If those items were basic than maybe I wasn't listening.   But then again, my husband and I don't look at the materialistic things.  We look at the fact that we have a roof over our head, food on the table, our children are healthy and happy, time to play with our children as well as spend time with each other.   

  

I'm afraid to hear what you as well as Bree and Diana think about Grant not wearing his ring.  Please enlighten me.  You can't tell me that wouldn't hurt your feelings just a little bit?   

 
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February 28, 2006, 2:17 pm PST

My job is mom

I do not understand why all the attention is going to jobs of a wife. 

By my choice I am currently staying at home with my two children. I consider this a full time job. 

My first priority is to give my children love 

Then to teach them about the world. I sing with them, read them book, dance, play, do art, write draw etc. I also teach them how to interact with others and how to be a good person. 

Then I think providing them nutritious meals is important and teaching them how to cook. 

Then giving them a clean environment to grow up in while teaching them how to clean. 

  

I consider my marriage a relationship and we take care of duties by ways of partnerships. 

Kinda of like scratching each others back for the responsibilities we have.  

  

Now since my list of mom responsibilities can take a considerable amount of time. 

I am not considered about a perfect house as long as I am there for my children to give them the most of my time while I am at home. 

  

I can even say, I see it paying off now, even though my children are young. As they are bright and lovable children.  

 
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February 28, 2006, 2:22 pm PST

Kelly

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Hello all of you! A few comments have come to mind as I have been watching these boards. They are not defensive. I am just clarifying some things since it has provoked quite the discussion.  I did not ask Grant for the list of 75 things. That list was in response to our second show and the fact that he felt like he was "white knuckeling" it. He was asked what I still needed lessons in. He then told the show that he felt that any "domestic engineer" should have knowledge in those areas as well.  I asked Grant to tell me something specific that I could work on for him. Maybe ironing all his work shirts for a week, maybe cleaning off his desk-whatever. He could not give me an answer. He eventually told me he would have to get back to me. He did not get back to me.  I did the same thing in the kitchen. I asked him what he would like to see me cook. He has a hard time answering me.  Maybe it is because my cooking really does bite, or maybe he doesn't really know what he wants. I do believe it really is an attitude thing. It is how both of us feel on the inside. I do not mean to minimize how our home and environment contribute to how we both feel. It is just plain easier to breath in a clean and de cluttered home.   But even today, I believe that the only thing Grant knows for sure is that he wants less anxiety and fustration.  Ironically enough,  I too want less anxiety and fustration! Kelly

I just want to give you the biggest hug then send you on a mini vacation!    ~hint hint Dr. Phil~ 

  

Ive read your posts and feel humbled by them.   You seem such an honest loving compassionate woman!    I can imagine how upsetting the anxiety and frustration are for you.  Im sorry youre hurting!    :( 

  

You asked Grant what specific areas of improvement you needed to work on and he couldnt answer you.  You asked for specific dinner requests and he had a hard time answering you.   Why is that,  Kelly?  That seems an important question to be asking.     

  

Has Grant started wearing his ring?  If no, why do you believe he doesent wear it? 

Do you think the house is a shambles and Grant has reason to feel the way he does?  Or do you think you do a fairly good job considering you have three young children? 

Do you think there could be any merit to Grant having a possible disorder? 

Does your family support you emotionally? 

What does your father think of all this?  Your mother?  Brother and sisters if you have any?   

  

Sorry for the third degree!  If you feel up to it would love to hear your answers!   

  

  

  

  

 
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February 28, 2006, 2:34 pm PST

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I don't think that most of you stopped to listen to the 75 items.  They were very basic items and some of them Grant even said that he thought it would be fun for them.  I look at the list and think about how I can do most of those things in an hour. 

As for if my husband brought a list of things to me, I would definately take a look at the list.  Also, Kelly asked him for the list.  Did you get that part of the show?  She asked him to make a list so she could better understand what he was looking for.  It was a jumping off point.  I hope everyone can please remember that. 

  

Amy 

  

Oh I'd love to see the full list of the 75 items Grant mentioned, is that available on the message boards anywhere?
 
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February 28, 2006, 2:38 pm PST

Youre wrong

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I don't think that most of you stopped to listen to the 75 items.  They were very basic items and some of them Grant even said that he thought it would be fun for them.  I look at the list and think about how I can do most of those things in an hour. 

As for if my husband brought a list of things to me, I would definately take a look at the list.  Also, Kelly asked him for the list.  Did you get that part of the show?  She asked him to make a list so she could better understand what he was looking for.  It was a jumping off point.  I hope everyone can please remember that. 

  

Amy 

  

Kelly posted:   I did not ask Grant for the list of 75 things.  

 
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February 28, 2006, 2:38 pm PST

Wifestyles

Dr. Phil, I watched your show today at 3pm in Fl. I believe it was a repeat. I was raised in a ol fashioned family values home. When i grew up I became definat in the way a wife was supposed to act. My first marriage failed because I beleive I was just to young and just dumb. My second marriage has had some rocky raods put they are starting to get smoother. I think the reason is some of those old fashion values coming back and because I've learned to pick my battles. I think it's important to discuss what your family needs and if you have the means to do it. I've been dissappointed many times when I didn't get to do something I really wanted, but it was because we really couldn't afford it. So I have a good cry but some visine in my eyes and more on WITHOUT HOLDING A GRUDGE!  

My husband helps me often with the house hold chores, and I always thank him. I'm not the best house keeper, but I try.  

When me and my husand have arguements or disagreements we try not to yell, if one yells st they other we bring it to their attention and apologize, and move on. 

I have a small poster on the refrigerator that reads: 

Rules for Christain Households 

1) Wives submit to your Husbands,as it is fitting to the Lord. 

2)Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them. 

3)Children, obey your parents in everything, this pleases the Lord. 

Colossians 3:18-20 

Sincerely, 

Audra Lukas 

 

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