Topic : 02/27 Twisted Love: The Aftermath

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Created on : Friday, February 24, 2006, 11:20:56 am
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Dr. Phil follows up with one of this year's most talked about couples: Charles and Tracy. Charles had been juggling his time between his wife and mistress. He wanted to have them both, so he came up with the perfect solution: polyfidelity, a relationship in which he is shared by the two women. Tracy says she can't express her anger over the affair because she doesn't know how. Will she fight for her rights for the first time in 20 years of marriage? Charles claims he said goodbye to the other woman, but why did it take four meetings? Is it "goodbye forever" or just "goodbye for now"? Plus, their oldest son speaks out about his father's behavior, and Tracy has a message for the other woman. Talk about the show here.

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March 1, 2006, 6:45 pm PST

Yeah.

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You notice Charles responds to the messages ..not Tracy..?
I definitely noticed it too. Perhaps she doesn't have an E-mail account or something? Or is it because charles is stopping her from seeing this board? She should register here and/or read all of these messages. I forgot to mention that I'm new here by the way.
 
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March 1, 2006, 6:56 pm PST

Been There

Watching this show is like deja vu for me. I found out that my husband of 27 years has been having an affair for sometime. Before knowing this I would have told anyone that my husband had more integrity than anyone I have ever known and was honest to a fault-ha ha. The jokes on me. I have always said that if this ever happened to me he would be out of the house immediately, but when the shoe is on the other foot things are different. I'm not willing to give up my life of 27 years and our family to some slut. It's not easy by any means, but he is my family and when we got married it was forever. His emotions are so like those of Charles on the show it is spooky---he has no remorse and is definitely the alpha male. But I'm not willing to give in and am hanging in there. I know it will be alot of work and hard to rebuild the trust. but hopefully we can work things out.
 
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March 1, 2006, 6:58 pm PST

Old news.

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Actually we choose not to see the shows on air........  

  

The producers sent us a copy of the unedited version.......  

  

The first show was REALLY hard to watch. I was insane.......  

  

The second was OK...... but all of you need to understand that we have moved forward with our lives since the actual taping. 

  

Watching the shows (for us) is like watching a re-run of a news show ......it's old news......... 

  

We are recommitting our vows.....20 years.......... stay tuned..... 

  

  

  

  

I hope everyone is taking note that what we saw on TV was old news for this family    This couple have moved on and are working to make their marriage work.    Can we start to give them both a break? 

  

I have not led a perfect life, and I don't think there is one person here who can say they have never done anything wrong, so can we all get off our high horses, and be a bit more understanding of a couple trying their best to put things back together?   Thanks.   That's all I have to say.       

 
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March 1, 2006, 6:59 pm PST

Dear Dr Phil

PLEASE DO NOT BRING THIS MAN BACK ON THE SHOW and give him air time. 

So Charles, if you are on here all the time as it seems in reading some of the responses ..what is your wife doing ? Souldn't you be with her trying to make up for how you have treated her ? 

  

I'd rarther see Marty and Erin.At lease Marty cried on the show. 

 
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March 1, 2006, 7:03 pm PST

Mr Poly Fidelity

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I definitely noticed it too. Perhaps she doesn't have an E-mail account or something? Or is it because charles is stopping her from seeing this board? She should register here and/or read all of these messages. I forgot to mention that I'm new here by the way.

Oh gosh..now he is a Christian...I would be ashamed to admit it...what part  of adultry didn't he  understand ? 

I am still going with SOCIOPATH 

 
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March 1, 2006, 7:05 pm PST

Gotcha

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I rest my case.........  

  

Listen to what your Grandparents always said "If you don't have anything nice to say....Don't say it". 

  

There is wisdom in it. 

  

You are hurting.....sorry for your pain..... 

  

Charles 

  

  

I rest my case, too, only mine makes sense.  You’ve never seen me on Dr. Phil or anywhere else but you claim to know my grandparents and you pretend to quote them.  You assert I am hurting and you are sorry for my pain – wrong again, Mr. Slick.  

  

 

 
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March 1, 2006, 7:11 pm PST

What? What are you talking about?

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Oh gosh..now he is a Christian...I would be ashamed to admit it...what part  of adultry didn't he  understand ? 

I am still going with SOCIOPATH 

I never said that charles was a christian. I'm not on his side. Adultery IS bad. I just think that charles is stopping tracy from seeing this board now. I definitely hope that she sees the light in this. I'm a good man, and I definitely know how to treat women.
 
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March 1, 2006, 7:12 pm PST

From Charles on the show

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You notice Charles responds to the messages ..not Tracy..?

Tracy is not as interested with the message boards lately  .... 

  

She knows I am stirring things here.  

  

I can handle it ...  

  

  

 
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March 1, 2006, 7:12 pm PST

a note to Charles and Tracy

 To Charles:  I'm not going to spend much time on what I think of you because it obviously has been said over and over.....in my opinion I think this whole thing back fired on you and the first show did not go as you planned and you had to then turn to another tactic, like wanting to stay with your wife.  Did you not think airing this on tv would bring this type of reaction?  Frankly, what you do and how you act is your business, short of turning it around and telling people on these boards that now they are the one with problems.  You can tell you have been in the care of a therapist...like 'look back into your childhood and see what family member is responsible for your actions"  Plain and simple, what goes around comes around, and believe me, you will get your due. 

To Tracy:   I feel for you right now, simply because I have been there.  I spent 10 years longer in a marriage than I should have because I did not have the confidence in myself to be on my own, mainly financially.  I have since divorced after being married 20 years.  My ex's mistress was a gambling addition, not another woman.  I, too, tried to make things right.  My only advice to you is, and right now you are probably not ready to hear this, but no matter how right you think things are going or will go, the mistrust that can NEVER be regained will overshadow anything that supposedly seems right.  It will put a damper on your trying to mend this relationship.  The best advice I got from someone is to make a decision to get out while I was strong enough to make such a decision, before I was beaten down again.  Because believe me, you will go through the thoughts of what was wrong with me, is it my fault, what is he doing now, what will he be doing, etc.  Then what is likely to happen is that you easily fall out of love with that person and even hatred may set in.   I hope you can find a way to deal with your anger.  I, too, kept it in thinking we needed to be on good grounds for our daughter.

Even after being divorced for 6 years, my ex continued to show what type of person he truly was by a month before our daughter was to go off to college, he refused to help with college expenses of any sort of which he had previously agreed.  So, if a trait is there, it is there.  It will not go away.

I don't want to be negative with this, but hope when you are ready to hear something along this line you will take a minute and read my story again.  I am now in a one year relationship with a man who I dearly admire and adore.  We are taking it slow and are sure to be friends first, to see if we are someone we each would like to fall in love with, unlike the way either of us approached our first marriage.  But it took me this long to feel I could trust at any level.

From experience also, I am willing to bet Charles' main concern is not paying child support.  My best wishes to you Tracy.
 
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March 1, 2006, 7:22 pm PST

message board

This seems to be "conversations with Charles" instead of message boards. 

My theory is Charles is on here reading and responding to messages because he is online  

sending IMs to another woman...I repeat ..You can't teach an old dog new tricks. 

I think  you need to step back and spend time with the woman you are repeating your vows with... 

Hopefully, she will snap out of it and throw your sorry butt out. 

  

 

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