Topic : 02/27 Twisted Love: The Aftermath

Good for you for seeing through Charles's pathetic attempts to manipulate and punish people who tell the truth. 

It appears Tracy has lulled him into a belief that reality consists of what Charles thinks he can talk people into. 

I laugh the most when he plays monkey-see-monkey-do, when he tries to appear empathetic.  He kind of peeks up at the person as if to say, "you buying any of this"?. 

At this point I believe Tracy won't grow a backbone where she keeps a wishbone, and leave him.  She would need the courage to face reality, experience the pain and rage, and actually take responsibility for her own life.  Her type rarely do. 

Dr Phil knows it's almost impossible to change the narcissistic behavior by Charles. Drop dead gorgeous comments, to humiliate his wife. He has no feelings for anyone but himself, he is emotionally dead. even to his children. His confrontation to Dr Phil, was because his image had been attacked. He only sees himself when he looks in the mirror. The devastating thing is they leave the spouse with deep emotional problems later. The other can't believe he would keep doing these things, but they do, they like to be with people who will pat them on the back, and keep them up. they find an excuse to leave even aft. 20 or so yrs & they don't look back. They simply don't care, their needs & wants always come first. She is emotionally drained, & will stay that way for years to come. they wreck havoc & destruction even on grown children. Therapy oh they lie in therapy, anything to satisfy people for the moment. They love the power it gives them, one up all the time. 

they hide money, assests,  they are physchological liars, they usually do not change.  

Thank you so much !!!!!! 

In my view, and I'm just saying this, If I'm with a woman in my first relationship, & she goes out & cheats on me, I should leave her. But then she will say to me "If you leave me, you will never get another woman as long as you live. No one else would want you." I've never been in a real relationship before, but I'm definitely waiting for the right woman to come into my life. I don't want to be hurt when a woman says that to me. What do you think? Is that message bringing me down into hurt & pain? 

Charles:  

   Change your mentality cause you feel being the 'alpha' male is so great but remember God is beyond your own imagination...so He's greater than the 'alpha male'...so if u tune in, you 2 can share in going beyond the alpha male...get the point?...u don't know what your missing!   You married Tracy and had kids all with the unity of God...so just turn to Him(Jesus) and He(God) will show you the way.  I've gotten a sign in my life to turn to Christ so, I have a strong supporting Hand. 

Being arrogant is nothing new to this world, arrogance was written even since the time of the Bible so don't feel alone.  But it's said to be evil/sinful and follows the lies of the world...that's why the Bible says to follow Christ cause He is the Truth of the lies of the world and unravels the mysteries of the world.  I hope this really sinks in.  I believe many of Dr.Phil's guests could solve their own issues with strong faith that would direct them...though Dr.Phil does help 2.  I used to be arrogant but have recently changed my ways towards faith and now can't believe the person i once was.  There are a few people in my life who follow arrogant ways and i can't stand it...it's harmful/hurtful and just untolerable.  I feel for them cause they are innocent but just caught in something bigger than themselves.  Now to redirect themselves out of this mess, they should direct themselves in2 something bigger than arrogance...God...truthfully.  Save your soul/spirit/mind/family etc... 

Just wondering how far back in ancient history was the 2nd show taped? Because that show talked of the 4 meetings with the OW. So to get the time frame right, when was the last time you talked to the OW ?  It is a very common thing for people to come on these boards and say, Oh, our taping was awile back and we are just super peachy keen right now!!! It happens with almost every couples show like this one!!!  

                   My bet is that the 20 year marriage vow renewal is Tracey's idea and you are just agreeing to avoid the wrath of hell. It seems a little soon after the affair for that. What did the counselor say about that? I would say wait at least thru 6 months of counselling first  . Otherwise it might be a hollow gesture. Most of us on here do not think this was the first affair, only the first you told her about, because you thought you wanted to leave for the OW. I'd wait for a year of good behavior and no slip ups and Tracy taking care of herself.  The actions will speak louder than any words and like Dr. Phil said, you are a slick talker.