Topic : 08/02 "I Love Myself!"

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(Original Air Date: 04/20/06) Do you know someone who craves attention so badly that he or she will do anything to get it? One family believes their loved one is a master manipulator and her ways are causing a major conflict in the household. Hilary claims she wouldn’t shed a tear if her stepdaughter, Shannon, died tomorrow. She calls Shannon a narcissist and says she will lie, fight and cuss just to be noticed. Shannon feels like a scapegoat, and thinks her stepmother is simply out to get her. When Shannon was younger, her biological mom died, and now she believes Hilary has turned her father and sister against her. Is Shannon’s behavior all an act, or do her father and stepmother need to change how they deal with her? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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April 20, 2006, 1:49 pm PDT

what's up with Dad?

Today's show really surprised me.  Shannon's actions were not good but in my opinion she is reaching out for attention from her Dad.  Does her Dad have any interactions with her?  Everything that I saw from him was "his wife said this" and "his wife said that" (both deceases wife and current wife).  He is the father.... brought them into this world....finacially provides for his family..... But what about emotional support?  Has he ever spent one on one time with her?  Sat down and talked to her about her feelings?  And I can not believe he would sit there and let his current wife say the things she said about Shannon and have such a smug look on her face.  It was just unreal to me.  But, I guess I was lucky..... I had a wonderful father that I could talk to about anything!  I wonder when the last time Shannon's dad actually had a "daddy/daughter" day or got involved in something that she had interest in.  I really believe counseling between them will help as long as he does not go back and tell the wife everything and have her cloud his mind.  

 
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April 20, 2006, 1:49 pm PDT

is loving inate?

i can really relate to the girl.   i think that their is a lot behind the family.  i think when i was her age,  faimly, extended and all would have described me as a narcassist.    

life isn't always fair.  and i beleive she hasn't been treated fairly by her faimly.  also, that her actions, yes rude and hard to hear, are simply self defence mechanisms. 

growing up i was beaten every day by my mother.  at the age of 15 she died from cancer... i am still putting my life together.  im moving at the end of the month to attend a long term residental program for my psychological and addictive problems. 

if her family are willing to hear the truth about their influence on her life and truly appologise without expecting her to, then i think this girl can really have a chance. 

maybe im talking about myself. 

 
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April 20, 2006, 1:51 pm PDT

Parents are in denial

Boy, I was so upset listening to this show today.  The parents just don't see how their behavior has any impact on Shannon.   They are blaming her for everything.  Wake up Dad.  Your new wife has convinced you that it is all Shannon's fault and you are buying it hook, line and sinker.    I had 2 children who acted out during my  divorce when they were teenagers.  I did not move in a replacement parent, lie to them about vacation, drop them off in a school that is later shut down for abuse, not talk to them for a year (oh yeah, that's the school's fault???), give away their room and possessions (because a child from outside their family had a crisis...Shannon losing her mother and getting a new stepmother was not a crisis??), etc.   No, I was not manipulated by Shannon.  I had teenagers who tried manipulation.   

  

Rewarding positive behavior will fade the negative behavior every time.   DAD:  Wake up!!  Stepmom: Wake up!!  You are both so busy blaming this girl, you are in denial!  She needs help and lots of encouragement and love.   Yes, teenagers can be very difficult.  BUt you are the parents.  Shannon has had to deal with enough.  Please help her and you will help yourselves too.  The family will heal and have much better times.   

  

Killer whales (who are certainly worse behaved than Shannon) are trained via positive reenforcement to do unbelieveable things.   Teenagers respond to positive behaviors much better than killer whales.    Please be glad that Shannon has not turned to drugs or worse.   Her behavior is a cry for help.  Please give it lovingly to her.  

 
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April 20, 2006, 1:53 pm PDT

Step Mom is projecting her own NPD onto step daughter

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...a show that might address Narcissistic Personality Disorder directly?

 

Okay, so it may not, but this is probably the closest thing to it.

 

Shannon might also have Histrionic Personality Disorder (feels as if they need attention or else they feel like they're nobody).

 

I guess we'll just have to wait and see!

 

Hilary, one key part of Narcissitic Personanlity Disorder is that the person projects their own problems onto someone who is vulnerable.  You are clearly the one with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.  It is so black and white.  You are supposed to be the adult here and instead you're playing the victim with a child! It is so creepy!!!!  You have divided and conquored this precious child out of your family.   Shannon has clearly been severely emotionally neglected.  No wonder she needs attention!  @#$%&! straight she need attention.  YOU are not the children here!  Shannon is.  You people need to grow up and take responsibility.   Positive loving motherly (and fatherly) attention is exactly what she needs and it's exactly what she isn't getting.  What is she supposed to do?  She is a dependant child.  She just trying to have a voice here.  These parents need to be refered to CPS.  They are abusive.

Shannon, my heart goes out to you!  This is so not your fault!!!!  You have every right to be angry.  You need to feel you anger in order to let it go.  Let it out in therapy and write it out in your journal. Let yourself grieve and cry.  You have a lot to grieve.  Your mom has died.  You have been neglected ever since your sister was born.   Your parents have clearly not given you what you need.  It totally stinks, but don't give up.  Little by little as you let your anger go, you'll be have to give yourself the love and respect that you deserve, because they may have permenatly dropped the ball.  Your life is going to be so much better after you grow up and start your own family.  You are a beautiful person, who has been through Hadies.  Your sister is too young to see the light. 

Sister, you and Shannon are the only sane ones here.  Please give Shannon some support here!!!!!  You both need one anothers love and support!  You've been through a lot. 

Shannon, good luck in life.  You'll eventually get to put these lunies behind you.  I hope that you'll find some "safe mom" role models who will nurture you.  You deserve it.  You'll be a better (future) mother because of this.  You will have learned empathy for innocent defenseless children.  You'll be the mom that you didn't have.
 
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April 20, 2006, 1:53 pm PDT

Hillary the horrible!!

This woman is the perfect example of the "wicked step mother"!!  The father is spineless.  There is no way in hell I would allow anyone to convince me to send my child away (to another country no less) and not to see or talk to her for a YEAR!!!!  I don't think that Shannon is totally innocent.  Hillary had Shannon sent away, moved her own daughter into Shannon's room and ditched her personal belongings; effectively removing her as a member of the family.  Hillary said that Shannon had lost her privelege to have her room.  The girl was in a "prison" for 16 months!!  What more did she need to do??  These people are horrible!!  Poor Shannon!!!
 
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April 20, 2006, 1:53 pm PDT

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I am a Mother and a Step Mother....OK  Been there.... Shannon you are not a bad person!!! I hope your Family reads this!!! they are as much to blame as anyone No1 your Father is so far in denial about what he has do its just crazy !!!!!  

 I love how he blames your dead Mother for sending you away...she can't speak for herself now....your father shipped you...PERIOD...he is where you should start....and he let this women into your life YOU were there first and you should have been taken care of and love ....made to feel secure and safe before he brought someone else into your lives he is the selfish one...now your stepmother She is so {smug} sitting there with that look on her face...I wanted to throw cold water on her to get to wake up and smell the detest of you on her face....LADY YOU need help!!!!!.....she was a child thrown out of her safety zone buy another women....YOU then kicked to the curb like trash....I don't care how nice that school was ...it was not her home....and you let your Daughter move into her ROOM....Oh My LORD.....I would have been sick too I can't believe you are so blind not to see the lack of love and REAL ATTENTION she didn't get is why she is screaming for attention...I would be too!!!!  Between the two of you ....this YOUNG ADULT.....is damaged inside  from no other place BUT first DAD then Step mom...you say well what about what she was doing before when she was little....she was being a Jealous sibling she needed to feel like she still belonged after her sister was born.....a new baby at 4 and she then is no longer the center of attention.....I wonder why she acted out....LOL....I do pray you ALL get help and stand up and own your OWN PART OF THIS!!!!!.......  

Annette mother of 3....26 25 21....step mother of 2 30 & 26.....Thank you......  

 

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April 20, 2006, 1:54 pm PDT

Unbelievable!

I feel outrage after watching today's Dr. Phil show.  I think that these parents are in total denial as to the role they play in this very broken relationship.  They are extremely self-righteous and down right cruel  and insensitive to the needs that any child would have in Shannon's situation.  I believe that the step-mother is actually the manipulator and does not like to be challenged by anyone - I thinks she has way too much to say and totally off base in what she is saying.   I find her oblivious and ignorant in her judgements of Shannon.  I believe that the step-mother has a great deal of her own issues to deal with and will hopefully encourage Shannon's father to work out the problems with his daughter.  I feel that his outrageous behaviour needs to be addressed and he must apologize to his daughter for the terrible things he has put her through in the last few years.  I do not like how he pulls the opinion of his dead wife into this situation - I am sure that she would not be pleased at how he and his new wife are running her family/household!  The sister is simply lapping up the praise.  It is easy to sit on the sidelines and appear like you are the "good" child - Age and birth order play a major role in the difference in their reaction to their situation/family life.  Come on Dad and step-mother - get your acts together and take the Dr's advice!  My best wishes go out to Shannon - Get a good education, get out of that dreadful environment and create your own family - I am not sure these people are worthy of the love you are capable of!
 

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April 20, 2006, 1:55 pm PDT

Step Monster!

 The Hillary is a step monster from Hell and in my opinion has turned the father and sister against her.  Having her "biological" daughter move into the bedroom and pack up/break/loose her things - I figure it's just the step monster's way to manipulate and hurt the poor girl.  What a disfunctional ugle family.  The show had nothing to do with the title - Shannon is a product of her environment.  Her father is clueless.   This show made me extremely angry.  Poor Shannon is living in a house where it seems like everyone is against her.  Yes she has a problem with her anger, but in my opinion with the situation she's in it's the only way for her to be heard.  The family seems to be pushing her away, labeling her.  I just can't even type about this any more - the family is horrid.
 
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April 20, 2006, 1:55 pm PDT

agree

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As a stepmother for 32 years, I think I can speak with some knowledge, and while My daughter and I have had our fair share of problems, THAT stepmother is one for the books!! I have seldom seem a woman who is SO COLD, and a husband who knows he better speak the "wifes line" if he knows what is good for him!! The saying is if your not part of the solution, your part of the problem, and THESE TWO are TRULY a BIG part of the problem.... No the girl is not perfect, who of us is.... but HEARTLESS is the only word I can come up with to define this couple.
i totally agree. the stepmother is horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the father is so gullible, he'll do or say anything the stepmother wants him to
 
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April 20, 2006, 1:56 pm PDT

Shannon on today's show

 My heart breaks for Shannon, who is obviously the scapegoat in this family.  No child should ever hear any parental figure say they would not shed a tear if they died.  (Or a "part" of them died like her father said.)  This is emotional abuse and I don't understand why Dr. Phil allowed it to happen on the show.
These parents are pathetic at best and I sincerely hope that the cruel attitude they showed toward Shannon is the worst that she has to endure.
 I understand that she has behavior problems, but I don't see these parents taking one ounce of responsibility.
 I wish Shannon the best on the long road to loving herself with these awful and callous parents.
 

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