Topic : 08/02 "I Love Myself!"

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(Original Air Date: 04/20/06) Do you know someone who craves attention so badly that he or she will do anything to get it? One family believes their loved one is a master manipulator and her ways are causing a major conflict in the household. Hilary claims she wouldn’t shed a tear if her stepdaughter, Shannon, died tomorrow. She calls Shannon a narcissist and says she will lie, fight and cuss just to be noticed. Shannon feels like a scapegoat, and thinks her stepmother is simply out to get her. When Shannon was younger, her biological mom died, and now she believes Hilary has turned her father and sister against her. Is Shannon’s behavior all an act, or do her father and stepmother need to change how they deal with her? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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April 20, 2006, 4:15 pm PDT

You are right on!

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Just for the record, I was being sarcastic to a user who empathized with Shannon's parents. 

I think they are both selfish and I hope Shannon and her blood sister get out of this together. That step-mom is something else. 

 Sorry, I must have mis-clicked.  I was agreeing with you and being appalled by the person in the message who said the parents have been treated unfairly.  I'm with you on that can of what you recommended for them!
 
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April 20, 2006, 4:16 pm PDT

SHANNON, GOD LOVES YOU!!!

Shannon you are loved. You have a father in heaven who you can always count on. I am so sorry for all that you have been through. I think that you are starting to see that the wrong behavior that you admit to  is only hurting you and helping the people in your life who think they are perfect. Stop giving them ammunition. Do the best you can for you. You can't make people love you even if they are family. God has put other people in your life who are able to see the good in you. Friends... the family God lets you choose.Blood does not make a family, love does. You can only fix you, so address your issues and surround yourself with loving, supportive caring people.Be responsible for and respectful to yourself by being the best person you can be at all times. Stop letting that heartless person your dad married pull your strings. You are helping her make yourself look bad. Clearly she is anxious to point out your wrong behavior as millions of people saw today. Maybe if  you stop giving her things to say she can use the extra time on her hands to get a much needed heart transplant. I believe that you love your dad so very much that you will go to any length to try to get his love and attention. As you know you have chosen the wrong way.  Your father seems to have his mind set with his wife. Sad as it may  be you may never get what you so need from your father especially while he is with the ice wife. You don't want to spend the rest of your life proving his wife right do you? As much as it hurts you must love yourself. Tomorrow is a new day, love yourself enough to do it for you, it will get better everyday. Stick with Dr. Phil. stop the negative crap, use that energy to better yourself, find a good church, read the Bible ( New Living Translation is very easy to read) Trust in God, know that God made you and God doesn't make junk!!! Remember if God brings you to it God will bring you through it !!!  May God Bless and keep you always may He give you the love, strength,courage and peace you need and deserve in your life!!!
 
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April 20, 2006, 4:16 pm PDT

04/20 "I Love Myself!"

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This is the first time I have ever logged on to DR.Phil.com, but I had to. I am a stepmother of two boys, and I know it is really hard to have that tittle. Anyway -- That lady was a b**ch, and the father needs to tell her to leave. Who is she to decided what if anything should happen with his children. Even if Shanon is a demon child (not sating she is) it is not that ladies place to say or do anything. One more thing how can you not yell, and call people names when they act like that. The stepmother said she wanted respect, well you have to show it and give it to get it. If you lie to your child you are saying it is okay to lie. Also why does the stepmother care if she is failing in school, did she not say that she basically wish the girl was dead? I think of myself as a clam person, but I really want to set that lady straight!!!!  

Shannon has apparently got a problem, however, I believe that her father and especially her step mother has a great deal to do with it. How could they take her to Mexico and leave her for a year with no contact at all. Especially when they lied to her and told her they was taking her on vacation. What would they do if Shannon lied to them. Throw a big fit I bet. I believe that Step mom just wanted her out of the house so that she could bring in her own daughter and give her Shannon's room plus loose some of her things.  Then when Shannon came home, she did not even get her own roomback. Shannon must feel that she is not wanted, what a terrible feeling. She had nothing positive to say about Shannon she had to bring up that she just had a 1.1 grade average in college. The girl is working full time plus going to school.  There was no reason to bring this up, she just did not want anyone to see anything good about Shannon. Someone should take her and leave her for a year with no contact with any family.   

   

I cannot believe that a father would put up with this from the stepmom, how in the world could you possible say that you would not shed a tear if she was to die. That is absoultly obsured. No wonder Shannon has problems. That must just break her heart to think that she matters so little to her family that they would not even shed a tear if she died. I believe that Step mom is the problem and needs the help.   

   

I hope that they take the help that Dr.  Phil is offering them.    

   

BCSEWS   

 
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April 20, 2006, 4:17 pm PDT

04/20 "I Love Myself!"

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"The Evil Stepmother"  that is exactly how I would describe Hilary.  My emotions were in an uproar watching todays episode.  It is a disgrace how Robert abandoned his own daughter, now matter how poorly she behaved.  The fact that these two parents wont step up to the plate and take any blame or responsiblity.  It is hard enough being a teenager and parents battle daily with their "own" children.  It amazes me how men can get remarried after the death of a spouse and move on with life and leave it to their new wife to take over.  Robert should have put his children first and then Hilary and if Hilary didn't like it he should have given her the boot!  I lost my father at a very young age and Shannon's behavior is nothing compared to how I was.  My mother remarried a man whom took me years to call him "DAD" and he was more loving and supportive towards me no matter what I did (including calling the police on him when he punished me).  Even when they had their own "biological" child he did not treat me or my sister from my dad any differently then he did his own flesh and blood.  Today I am happily married for 9 years with 2 kids and a third on its way.  I have been successful in the business world and it took me a few years to get my grades up from school, but I was fortunate to have love and understanding that every teenage girl needs. I know today that I would be where I was if it were not for my "stepdad" and his love and support! 

  

Robert and Hilary want respect!!  Respect is earned!  Maybe if they owned up to their mistakes and tried to understand what was going on through Shannon's head she would simmer down and possibly make more of an effort to become more harmonious, instead of pointing the finger and blaming her for everything.  For Hilary to say on national TV that she considers one child her daughter and not the other.  No biological mother in their right mind would ever say that.  There is something that is called unconditional love and believe me if you ask my mother today she will contest for my behavior.  Both my sisters were well behaved children compared to me, but I was never loved or treated any differently!  I certainly didn't miss out on any family vacations. 

  

I really hope for Shannon's sake that Dr. Phil got through to these people.  Especially Robert, to abandon his own child for over a year because his new wife told him to is dispicable considering she wasn't doing drugs, drinking, etc.  and on top of that to let Hilary's own "biological" daughter take over her room!!!  I can go on all night at how outraged I am!  My skin is crawling from disgust!  I don't blame Shannon one bit for her behavior.  I believe what goes around comes around!  Hilary, I am sure that Shannon wouldn't shed a tear over your death either and believe me  you'll go first!!! 

  

  

Love what you said...to the max!!!!...I too was a very unruly (to put it politely) teen of a broken home and it's really easy for others to throw stones!...You rock!!!...Glad to hear everything is going okay for you now and congrats on #3...hope all is well!
 
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April 20, 2006, 4:18 pm PDT

Shannon! Come live wth me

Seriously - The step-mother surpassed the diagnostic criteria for NPD ten fold. People are so totally fx!@#$ selfish it blows my mind. The only one who said anything life enhancing and loving was Shannon's sister who expressed concern that if Shannon left the home that she would never hear from her again. It was the only sign in the entire show that Shannon was wanted and maybe a tiny little bit worthy. It is complete BS and Shannon you are welcome to get in touch with me anytime - a family of choice is your only way to love and attention that is vital to ALL OF US. Get the hell away from your step-monster of a "mother" asap.
 
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April 20, 2006, 4:20 pm PDT

04/20 "I Love Myself!"

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I see right through Hilary, she really is the master manipulator. Shannon needs unconditional love, her personnality is a tough one, but Hilary as the "adult" should be able to see why Shannon would act this way, Hello? she lost her mom, she has a "new" mom within a year. Her behavior prior to losing her mom was typical of a child with a strong willed personnality and even a biological mother would have a tough time with that but through unconditional love you can turn a strong willed child to use her personality for the good. Hilary seems to want to destroy Shannon. I hope so much that Shannon has a great life and finds happiness. Men are just blind, evil step moms get that reputation because they can, men are blind to the way "their wives" treat their own blood. don't they Hilary???
see i  totally agree and even if it was shannon who  was the master manipulator... hilary is the adult and should try to fix the situation - rather than saying "oh we've done everything... we have to come on to national tv as our last resort!!!"  bull - hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes hilary.
 
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April 20, 2006, 4:20 pm PDT

Poor baby

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I had to live next door to my best friend, whose daughter is JUST like Shannon. She made all our lives a LIVING HELL!! 

  

I don't want to hear all the boo hooing about poor Shannon. I and a million other people have had MUCH worse lives and didn't turn out like the spoiled brat that Shannon is!!! 

  

I am SICK TO DEATH with all the enabling/coddling/explaining away of what is simply POOR CHARACTER! Even Dr Phil said she doesn't have NPD! 

  

If Shannon is old enough to be in college, she's old enough to live on her own! If she comes to their house and pours her poison on others THOW HER OUT!!! She'll get the hint! 

  

NO ONE should have to tolerate ABUSE and be made to feel it's their fault. That's BLAMING THE VICTIMS!! 

  

I'm glad the father said that, of course she's great at other peoples house. Let me tell you, if she stayed long enough she would have poured her poison out on them, too! GUARANTEED!!!!! 

  

I wouldn't have even ASKED to use her room. The last I saw the OWNERS OF THE HOUSE have a say as to what is done with their room. I would have throw her AND her stuff on the curb. I'm willing to bet she would straighten up REAL QUICK! 

  

You dropped the ball on this one, Dr Phil!! Even you have advised others to strip their kids of EVERYTHING and make them earn it back and now you're reneging???? 

Who is the attention seeker here......me, me, me, my, my, my  I,I,I seems YOU need a little help of your own....!!!! I pray you don't ever have a child to treat this way!!!!!
 

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April 20, 2006, 4:20 pm PDT

04/20 "I Love Myself!"

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I can not believe that this father and step-mother honestly think the problem only lies with the daughter.  Also why is the step-mother even administering any discipline.  Hasn't Dr. Phil always said that the step-parents should stay out of the discpline and just back up the biological parent?  Why didn't he push that here?  Why didn't he lay into her about that?

I totally agree. The step mother should have nothing to do with discipline. She kept jumping in pointing out the bad things of Shannon. Then when Dr. Phil pointed out that he is lifting the diagnosis of NPD, the step mothers reaction gave it all. She definately does not want the diagnosis changed. The tape footage demonstrated that she uses that diagnosis against Shannon. Why could Dr. Phil find no medical documentation of this supposed diagnosis? Labelling a child and have this lable go into your teenage years is so detrimental. This totally showed how a diagnosis could ruin someones life. 

  

 I am not agreeing with disruptive behaviour. However for the father to say...why isn't my other child like this? Every child is an individual. Each child has their own reactions, feelings and personality. You can't generalize as everyone is an individual. Doesn't he want two children that are different with different strenghts. You don't want people to be carbon copies of what the perfect person is. No one is perfect! Shannon is older an quite possibly all her events in her life have affected her ever so much. What happened to giving her the tools to cope? It appears that Shannon feel abandoned by her family and her mother. She needs love.  

  

 No matter what mistakes people do, your family should point out the good things. If expectations are that you can't do anything then why would you be anything? Positive support is the most important thing.  It is up to the family to create the environment which is successful for Shannon. Maybe living with a family member would be the best option as her father definately showed Shannon that he chose his happiness over hers.  

  

Something that perplexed me was that Dr. Phil made it clear that Shannon was not doing drugs and permusuise. They talked about her behaviour and her grades. No maybe she needs to find her passion and what makes her happy. She needs an outlet that makes her feel good about herself. This may have a spin off effect into her school and home life.  

  

I really wish the best for Shannon. And she may come to the point that parents do no know everything and do make great errors. I hope that she is able to rise above her petty family. Then hopefully one day they will appreciate her and if she chooses so she can end their poison.   

 
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April 20, 2006, 4:21 pm PDT

Why the need to diagnose?

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Very well said! All that's left.... is to add a few links, lol.  

  

narcissism 101 Index  

  

Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) : How to Recognize a Narcissist  

  

What Makes Narcissists Tick  

  

Just some helpful information for anyone interested.  

  

For people who think they need additional support.... there are many great NPD forums, full of caring, supportive, and understanding individuals. All you need to do is google Narcissistic Personality Disorder.  

  

Take care and God bless.  

  

  

Yes the first thing we need to do is diagnose. Why add on any more for a child to carry than is needed? Where is the love and honesty a child needs as they grow. If parents can now justify leaving a child locked as for their good I am now aware of why kids are the way they are.  I was a patient for one year also. I was physically disabled and had no one who cared about me when I was discharged. What I mean is it 's hard being the new kid. No one helped me readjust  to the world. It was as if being thrown in the deep end and all those who were present could not help.  I needed guideance not ridicule. I was held back as unable to blend in. Yes how do you diagnose apathy and is there a cure.
 
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April 20, 2006, 4:21 pm PDT

Amen

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Wow!  Hilary I don't know if you will read these messages but you might get a real wake-up call if you do.  I am a step-mother and I am living the role of mother.  It is not my place to correct these kids and they are younger than Shannon was when you first came into her life.  It is absolutely not your place to interfere.  The fact that you speak for Shannon's dad and interfere in their relationship goes to your motive.  It seems that you are determined to add to the wicked stepmother image.  It is hard enough for step moms without a real life wicked step mom sending the children to the "forest" to be eaten by witches.  If Shannon's dad had ever really loved her (verb) then he might have read nursery tales and you wouldn't be in the picture now.  He is a simpleton and you are a witch...and remember how the witch always ends up?  Well...Shannon will be okay, but one day you will get old ...excuse me...older.   And you will need kindness.  Shannon having been treated with such meanness may end up being the one to be kind to you...you just never know.  You need to get that Shannon DOES NOT deserve the treatment she has received and you must apologize humbly, and step out of her life completely so she can get "well."  You are really the one who is manipulative and cruel and her dad is woven in your sick spell....I pray to God that he wakes up and sends you  back to the forest. 

  

Dad - really you are handsome but stupid when it comes to women.  Is Hilary the best you could do?  Were you so lonely and overwhelmed with two daughters that you believed the line of bull you were being fed?  There are lots of women out there, and I urge you to toss the bad one (Hilary) back!  Get to know your daughters intimately and be thankful that you have them.  Do not allow anymore negative comments about Shannon until you have therapy.  Maybe the therapist will ask you why it is okay to treat her the way you do.  She is different not bad.  YOur behavior is more reprehensible...just because you can't deal with something you find an "easy" solution.  YOU need help before you judge anyone...and Hilary is crippling your judgement...she is a vixen and you are under a spell...and you don't need to be. 

  

Shannon - things with your family may never get better until you make the choice to send them packing.  They were wrong to treat you that way andyou are naturally frustrated and angry and hurt.  The problem is I really do know that they may not ever change and you could bein your forties and still trying to make them "love" you.  They are incapable of understanding that you are special and in a bad situation for you.  Ask them if they will help you move out and be independent...(HIM...not that thing...Hilary).  If not, youwill find that there are options for you anyway.  Go and be special and take care of yourself.  You have a wonderful life ahead of you and you have been a shown a way to offer compassion....and no one has suffered more than Jesus and he has compassion for us still. 

Amen and Amen! 

 

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