Topic : 07/06 Baby Wars

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Created on : Thursday, April 13, 2006, 01:22:17 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/21/06) Being a parent is hard enough, but what happens when Mom and Dad can't agree on how many kids to have, how to raise 'em and how to get ‘em to sleep?  Sometimes, it can lead to an all-out baby war! Matt's baby battle ended up in front of a judge and made headlines. He was ordered to pay child support for the baby he had with his ex-girlfriend, but he says he shouldn't have to cough up the money because she told him she wasn't able to get pregnant, and he told her he didn't want to be a father. He, his attorney, and the director of the National Center for Men discuss the lawsuit they filed, known as “Roe v. Wade for Men,” arguing that men should have a constitutional right to avoid fatherhood. Next, Dan says even though he and his wife, Lisa, already have four children, he wants just one more. Lisa has been pregnant on and off for 11 years and says she's closed for baby business. Will Dr. Phil help Dan see Lisa's point that four is enough? Then, a frustrated husband is camping out on the roof of his house and living in a tent. He refuses to go back to his bedroom until his wife moves their kids out of their bed and starts paying more attention to him. Can Dr. Phil get him to come down the ladder? Plus, a sleep expert has a simple method for getting your child to sleep through the night. See the plan in action! Share advice and talk about the show here.

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April 21, 2006, 1:36 pm PDT

get real

This is a great example for future teens. They make a mistake and instead of taking responsibility for it they learn to run from it. what do you think is going to happen 20yr from now if this baby has made this mistake should just she walk away.
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:36 pm PDT

Equal choice...... not right or wrong

I think that All Men should have the choice to be father even if the fail to create their own destiny by having unprotected sex.... there should be a legal option to opt out....  

What good is it to the child to have someone who doesn't want to be a part of their life? 

  

Sad,?  Yes, but true none the less. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:36 pm PDT

Matt, sorry men and women are different.

FIRST:  

You want the choice to give up your child just like a woman has the right to give up her child for adoption.  You want ALL the same rights as a woman has...  

  

I wish you could carry a baby in YOUR womb for nine months and then give birth and I'm willing to bet any money that you would NEVER want to give up this most beautiful creature ever made.  

  

SECOND:  

You say that "someday I'll be a great Father"...that someday is today.  Tomorrow may never come.  

  

.  You HAVE a beautiful baby, whether you like it or not.  You will miss out on one of the greatest gifts that God will ever given you if you walk away from this angel.  I hope you can come to your senses and DO THE RIGHT THING. 

  

Try to imagine that one or both of your parents don't want anything to do with you...how would you feel?    

  

I think you can be the bigger man and be a great Father, starting now.  

  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:36 pm PDT

Man's rights

I believe the first story of the young man trying to obtain a legal judgement to get him out of his obligation to support his 8 month old daughter was ridiculous.  He had a choice...  In fact he had a couple of choices.  The first being not to have sex and the second being to wear a condom.  If he did not want to be a father then he had no business taking any chances at all!  You can't turn back the clock.   

If I did not want a baby...I WOULD NOT MYSELF IN A SITUATION WHERE IT WAS A POSSIBILITY!!!!! 

  

You made your bed now sleep in it.  The beautiful little girl he fathered did nothing wrong and deserves to be loved by BOTH parents.  Hopefully he will not miss out totally on her life. 

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:36 pm PDT

getting pregnant can change everything

My best friend and her fiancee are both under 25 years old and are pregnant.  6 months ago if asked that if they got pregnant, would they keep the baby both of their answers would be no - hands down - and they'd both tell you that today.  however, after going through the process for the option of abortion their feelings changed and they both decided that the best thing was to keep the baby.  today they couldn't be happier about the new baby on the way.   

My point is, is that when you make the decision to have sex, with protection or not, you really never know yourself enough to know what your decision would actually be when the situation presents itself.   So Matt saying that his ex girlfriend knew what she would do when she became pregnant is impossible - because there is no way of knowing.   

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:36 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

I completely disagree with this man.  If he is going to have unprotected sex then he needs to be responsible for his actions.  If these lawyers get a law passed that a man does not have to be a responsible father if he choses not to,  how many babies will be fatherless?  Does this mean they can force a woman to have an abortion?  This is so ridiculous!  People have become so selfish and out for no one else but themselves.  I am only 35 and I already pity the next generation of parents.  My children will have a very diffucult time finding a responsible mate, if we continue to allow people to do whatever they want and never suffer consequences.  My advice this man - keep it in your pants until you can be a real responsible person.
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:36 pm PDT

I agree

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  I think if a man lays down with a woman and she gets pregnant then he should be responsible for the care of the baby.
If a man or a boy isn't ready to be a father than he should not have sex.  The choice to have sex is saying that you are ready to except whatever happens.  Fatherhood, STD's, AIDS, If you don't want any of those things than it is plain and simple don't have sex.  If you  have sex with out any protection and say you aren't ready to be a father, than you are completely stupid.
 
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April 21, 2006, 1:36 pm PDT

The child has no choice

When a man and woman make the decision to be sexually intimate, there is always the chance that a pregnancy can occurr. Matt's ex girlfriend was on the pill. Matt should have done his share in prevention of pregnancy as well as his ex, if he was so set against being a father. He should have made sure he was using a condom.  

  

Seems to me, the woman in this case is the only one who was taking some responsibility. Of course we all know that no birth control is 100 % with the exception of abstinance.  

  

Now there is a precious baby involved. This child did not choose to be born, nor does she get to choose what happens to her. She cannot choose to walk away from her parents.  For every person, male or female, who after conceiving a child, thinks they should get the final choice, you are very selfish.  Every child is a defenseless creation. Each one must be nurtured and cared for. 

  

  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:36 pm PDT

pay backs are....

I am vey upset about the first discussion on the show today. I have been fighting with my childrens boilogical fathers for years now to at least let their children know who they are. Not even pay child support. And they said they "wanted" to be fathers...go figure. And now they are just trying to start more red tape? It takes two to tango. And I know alot of states allows for parental rights to be "dropped", so why give the dead beats more ways out? How  far is this going to go? It's sinceless and unnecessary to do this. I know these men will get their paybacks...and it'll be nice when they do...
 

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April 21, 2006, 1:36 pm PDT

The legality of abortion should not be used to justify deadbeat dads.

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I believe that it should be the persons decision on if they want to be a father/ mother or not.    

   

I had a friend who got pregnant and wanted an abortion, the father wanted the child but legally there was nothing he could do to keep that baby.  Why does the women get the right to terminate it when the other parent wants it?  I myself am a mother and am expecting my 2nd child but I do understand how Mr. Dubay feels.  He shouldn't be forced to support a child that he stated over and over, he did not want.  Its not fair to that child to go through life knowing that her father wants nothign to do with  her or her mother.  Does the mother really want this for her child?  Just let him sign away his parental rights and be done.  

I think that abortion was grossly unfair to both the father & the developing infant.  And the fact that abortion is legal in 49 states should not be used to justify fathers skipping out on child support.   

   

 As for Mr. Dubay, he stated over and over he didn't want a child, but actions speak louder than words & he chose to have unprotected sex.  The child's right to have child support from her father trumps any post-coital right of Mr. Dubay not to be a father.  

 

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