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Topic : 07/28 When Sexual Styles Don't Match

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Created on : Thursday, April 27, 2006, 07:15:59 pm
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(Original Air Date: 05/05/06) Do you and your spouse burn with passion in the bedroom, or is your sex life more like an ice-cold shower? Dr. Phil speaks with couples who say their sex styles just don't match. First, meet Leigh, who just wants a kiss on the lips from his fiancée, Jill, but she would prefer to bite him. Leigh says they haven't had a make-out session in the two years they've dated, but he's gotten plenty of bruises! Then, meet Christy and Ben. Christy says that with two kids, sex has become just another job to check off her list. In order to have sex more often, Ben came up with an idea so they both could get what they want. He created a sex menu called "Chez Christy" where he could order what sex act he wanted, and then pay her for it. Christy was fine with this arrangement in the beginning, but now finds herself crying afterward. Plus, a man who loves to paint his toenails, a woman who can't say any word that sounds dirty, and more! Join the discussion.

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May 5, 2006, 3:49 pm PDT

05/05 When Sexual Styles Don't Match

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wow    to withhold sex from your mate is the ultimate torture.   Sex is a natural need, its not perverse or selfish self gratification.  A well balanced adult has sexual desire.  to not fulfill those need as a spouse is extremely disfunctional.   if you won't do this for him, at LEAST, allow him to find someone who will.   He should not be made to fill obscene for having his god given natural urges, I thing urges Stronger then the one that makes you eat when you are hungry.  I'm sure his buddies talk about the ' great sex ' they had with their wives/girlfriends and he has to sit mute, wondering what is 'WRONG' with him.  And that is sad.
"Ultimate torture"??? i hope you are kidding. This Ses Anne is not withholding sex btw...she just doesn't have a sex drive.

Her husband (and you) should be worried about her lack of sex drive, not how her husband is going to get off!!!

You suggest, instead of finding out what is wrong with her, that she should put out or allow her husband to have an affair. Your concern in on the wrong party here.

Sex is pleasurable because natural selection weeded out those who don't like sex cause if you don't like it, you won't do it, thus you won't procreate. Our sex drive is a result of natrual selection, so it IS selfish self gratification. We just happen to have also evolved an emotional attatchment to sex.

What is really sad is that she has no sex drive, she needs to find out why, not ignore the problem, put out for her husband and be a good little wifey.
 
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May 5, 2006, 3:53 pm PDT

you are right to think that

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 Here is my problem.  I am the wife and i am the one that wants sex.  Before my husband and I were married we had a great sex life!!!  We have been married for 6 months and for these months our sex life has been almost non-existant.  We used to have sex at least 10 times a week and now we might have sex 3-4 times a month.  I have talked with him about it and I have even told him that it makes me sad.  I have been turned down so many times that I don't even try and I even fantasize about having sex with other men.    We have talked about this SEVERAL times and he says "well, I hate that you feel bad.  it is not you .  not at all.  I just don't feel like it"  Unfortunately, that does not make me feel better. We are two young professionals in our 20's. It is not like were old and we don't even have kids so that is no excuse.   One of the things that really gets me is that there is such a stereotype that women are the ones that withhold sex and that is totally not the case in my house.  I can't help but think that other men would love to have a wife that would want to have sex.
Please don't put yourself down....YES there are other men that would love to have a wife like you! Trust me!
 
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May 5, 2006, 3:59 pm PDT

been there, not doing that either....

boy i sure can relate to everyone so far. after years of being in a abusive relationship i finally found a wonderful man to share my time with. the only thing is he doesnt share his time with me. and  the sex issue is a real killer. i am not sure if it is the fact that i was in an abusive relationship or what but to me sex is very very very important to me. and means absolutely nothing to him.... to me when we don't make love i feel ugly, unatractive, and totally unloved. he just says he is tired, not feeling well, ect. i have came out and asked are you attracted to me at all? he says yes but i am still hurting inside. if this is a normal relationship i would rather go back to my abusive one where i was getting sex 6 or 7 times a day compaired to 6 or 7 a month. and that right there is one of the saddest sickest staments i have ever made.
 
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May 5, 2006, 4:03 pm PDT

Not just for Newlyweds

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I was informed about a book to read for all newly weds...its called "The Five Love Languages" by Gary Chapman. This book has really opened our eyes and I was wondering if you "Dr Phil" have read this wonderful book? I haven't heard any comments about how to improve ones love life referring to this book or its teachings. If you haven't read it, in my opinion, it would be worth while. Let me know please...thank you .....Myles and Barbara Stillman 

I have read this book and it is wonderful.  Gary Chapman has touched on an area that will be helpful in any relationship.  He has written other books that I'm looking forward to reading .   

   

You have to remember its not about sex at all, it's about the relationships we choose to enter into and whether or not you are willing to continue to work at keeping the relationship healthy.  Sexual styles will change with time but how you handle it in the relationship is the answer.  Read "The Five Love Languages" and I guarantee it will help you understand your mate and your feelings.  

   

 I can testify that time will change you both because next month I will celebrate my 30th wedding anniversary,  believe  me we've had our ups & downs. (no pun intended)  but if the relationship is worth saving you gotta put the effort into it to understanding what's going on with your mate and how you are going to get through it together.  

 
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May 5, 2006, 4:08 pm PDT

Do you really need his approval?

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I've got a question, I could use your opinion / advice.   My husband and I have been married for 10 years and we have 5 kids.  The last 3 years I've been unhappy with our sex life.  He says that he's not attracted to me because I've got extra weight - that crushed me.  Am I wrong to take it personal?  Is that supposed to motivate me to shed the extra pounds?  I feel angry and hurt by this - I thought beauty was on the inside.  I agree that its important to take care of myself and I do exercise as I can - with 5 kids its a challenge but I try to get up and workout before they wake up.  ANYWAY,  I feel so sad and mad about this.  I need intimacy and now I don't really WANT it with him because I'm tired of ALWAYS being overlooked.  ANY advice?

What I mean is do you need him to approve your body type before you are ok with it? Even if he did you would probably resent him once you lost this extra weight. It will be all your hard work to make yourself feel good about your body. He won't have to lift a finger so you have to decide why you want to shed these pounds. Is it for him or you? I am sure if you did it for yourself, and not because you fealt you were being pressured by his lack of attraction, it would make you and him feel better. If he gained a bunch of weight would you still be attracted to him? Ask him this and let him know you need his support and not his criticism. You do want to better yourself but don't comprimise your self-esteem in order to do so.  

 

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May 5, 2006, 4:09 pm PDT

05/05 When Sexual Styles Don't Match

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at the begining of the show, Dr. Phil said that the kids might need to leave the room.  At 12 and 13, i felt that the boys are old enough to hear some things.  However, when Dr Phil was reading the Chez Chrissy menu I realized there were things that the boys didn't need to hear....  

  

now  the 12 y/o wants to know what "rump roast" means.  do i explain that, or just let it go...frankly, i'm not even sure what it means on that menu!!! 

I am PRETTY sure it meant anal sex.

If it were ME  and he was MY son I would just explain it to him. I'm a bit more liberal then most, so that might not be your cup of tea.  It also depends on how mature your son is and how much he already knows about sex.

You could also just lie to him and tell him that it means something else, like, off the top of my head.........kissing her behind...I dunno...LOL Or, having sex by the oven...LOL


 

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May 5, 2006, 4:11 pm PDT

05/05 When Sexual Styles Don't Match

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Hi jenport.  My hat is off to you - FIVE kids is a huge job to work 24/7, as I'm sure you do!!   

   

I totally understand your feelings being crushed when your husband said he's not as attracted to you because of the extra weight.  I know how that hurt, really I do. And unfortunately you are in the place in life where you have so little time for yourself that I know losing weight and getting enough exercise can be very difficult.     

   

You are right, true beauty is on the inside.  It is even more important to have that true beauty in yourself and your partner in later years when outer beauty fades with age.  But for now, here is something worth remembering...Men and woman are so different in all areas, but especially when it comes to sex.  Women are turned on by what the hear and feel emotionally from their men, but men are turned on strictly by what they see with their own two eyes.  They can't help it - they are just hardwired this way.     

   

I know that is not fair, but there you are.  So, as mothers who have given birth to multiple children and wear the effects on our bodies what are we to do????  First, even though his attitude hurt your feelings, don't blame him for being who he was born to be (a man).  He really can't help that he is a visually stimulated creature.  And while there are lots of men who love bigger women, he is apparently not one of them.  So....don't take it personally!    

   

Second, instead of wasting any energy being hurt or feeling unloved make a commitment to yourself to love yourself better.  When we love ourselves better we naturally take better care of ourselves.  Don't wait for him or anyone else to motivate you to lose weight - find that motivation inside yourself.  Set small goals every day to make yourself a priority in your own life.  When he sees you doing that and being less unhappy with him I really believe his attraction will be revived.   

   

Don't make the mistake of getting stuck in the sadness and anger!  Accept what is and set about taking steps to change the parts of your reality you don't like.     

   

Try to remind yourself every day about the things you love about your husband, work on keeping those loving feelings going so that you don't stay angry at him for making you feel rejected.  Intimacy is hard to acheive when we don't feel emotionally safe enough to allow ourselves to be vulnerable, I know.  But take back your control over this situation by refusing to feel like a victim or a reject.  Refuse to see yourself that way and certainly don't act that way.  You can do this!!! I will be pulling for you :)   

   

p.s.  just in case this helps you with losing weight here is how my doctor helped me to lose 24 pounds in the last 6 months:  Within 15 minutes of getting up in the morning you must eat a bite of something protein. (I usually have a teaspoon of peanut butter or a little block or cheese).  Then, within an hour or two eat a full breakfast.  Throughout the day you MUST eat 6 bites of something every 2 hours- this is the secret to keeping your body from holding onto its fat because you never give it a chance to think it is hungry.  Then eat dinner at least 3 hours before bedtime.  While you are trying to lose the weight you have to give up all breads, pototoes, pasta and rice (I KNOW, a real sacrifice for most of us women!) Oh, and no oatmeal or cereals.  I never feel deprived because I am eating all day and I really have lost 24 lbs without it killing me to do so.  Hope some of what I have written helps you!!!   

   

   

   

"but men are turned on strictly by what they see with their own two eyes. "

I must must must disagree with you here. This might be true most of the time, but it's not true all of the time. It's a stereotype that unfairly makes all men seem superficial. Not all men are superficial and plastic.

And not all women are turned on by what they hear and feel emotionally.  Emotions get me going sometimes, but trust me...a picture of Bono can get me going better then almost anything!

These are unfair stereotypes.
 
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May 5, 2006, 4:18 pm PDT

Why are some people married?

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(been married for 16) because he didn't want to listen to me when I told him what he needed and I got tired of "servicing" him and not getting anything out of it.  How can you get anything out of it when it lasts for 2 minutes start to finish, no foreplay, he's done and rolling over, and you're just thinking of getting started, but he doesn't care.  Orgasm?  Forget it.  He didn't care as long as he had his, whether I was satisfied or not was of no concern to him.   

  

 I now have 4 lovers, 2 married, 2 single.  They came on to me, not me to them.  The 2 married ones have wives that either won't put out at all,  or put out once a month--if that, but he can tell she's only doing it because he wants it, she doesn't enjoy it.  They are starving--not so much for sex but for attention to them as a person, and most of all, the affection that they are deprived of at home.  Their wives do not appreciate what they do for them, and both are staying in the marrige because it would cost them too much financially to leave and start over, one being in their mid 40's and the other early 60's.  They bend over backwards for their women, but are treated like crap in the bedroom.  The 40 something has offered to go to counseling with his wife but she refuses since to her there is no problem.   

I have never understood why people stay married to people they have clearly fallen out of love with. Forever is such a long time for most people. There are very few marriages out there these days that last and that is a sad reality. Why stay married is what I would like to know. Why do people want to live so miserably when they could be so much happier being single or dating and not feeling guilty or angry because they are "stuck" with the wrong person. I just don't get it and that is probably why I will stay away from marriage. I would rather be in a committed relationship for years and years than get married only to have a peice of paper to say you will stay with that one person for the rest of your life. People need to be more sure of marriage these days and it seems more than ever people jump into it without thinking of the future or if they really feel they love the person only to avoid being "alone". I don't see the point when you aren't sure the person you marry is the one forever and ever. It happens in the movies all the time which is misleading, but there are that handful of people out there that get married for all the right reasons and stay married.
 
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May 5, 2006, 4:27 pm PDT

Some helpful advice

To the ladies out there:   

   

If you want to improve your marriage and your sex life I highly recommend reading Dr. Laura's book The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands.  While at first you may ENTIRELY reject her ideas-I challenge you to try them for a week with your husband and see what happens in your marriage and bedroom.  I had huge resistance to these ideas and her and instead complained about taking care of the kids, being exhausted, picking up dirty socks, cooking, and working outside my home to boot, and since it wasn't working for me, thought I would just entertain her book and ideas.     

   

I realize that I committed to marriage to this man-I committed to having sex even when "I don't feel like it" or "I'm just not in the mood".  Men go to work every day when they don't feel like it.  Men need us to be attractive (no, not a supermodel but looking nice and smelling good with a smile on our faces-like we are happy to see them and we actually care about our appearance)-they need us to be enthusiastic, to desire them sexually and physically and make an effort to initiate sex.  Seriously-would you have answered the door in your gross t-shirt and sweats, not combed your hair or taken a shower on your first date with your husband?  Pretend you are getting ready for a special date and look good!  If he asks why-tell him you want to look great for him.  (It does wonders for your own attitude toward yourself as well)   

   

We need to save time and energy for our husbands!  They need us-it makes their lives so much more tolerable-they slay dragons all day just for us!  

   

gI find that once you start initiating sex or flirting-even if you really don't feel like it-you will enjoy it too!  And watch the rest of your relationship flourish if you do this.  He will move mountains and go to end of the earth for you.     

   

Resist this if you must-but if what you are doing isn't working-reconsider. I'm sure I will get quite the response for this however if one person improves their marriage for applying these ideas-it will be worth it!  

   

Also recommend Lysa TerKeurst book called "Capture His Heart" (get the one for men called Capture Her Heart also and give it to him. :-)   

 
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May 5, 2006, 4:28 pm PDT

slowly dying inside

when my relationship started, we had a great sex life. Both my fiance and i have had a history of depression, and after about 7 months, he started taking antidepressants. we both knew it might effect his sex drive, and i was prepared to deal with that. i never realized how much it would affect me, and how i feel about myself.   

what most people don't understand is that when there is no sex, you lose a whole level of  intimacy, that whole aspect of your relationship and part of yourself that you share with no one else.  

I know part of him fears that he wont be able to perform, and that will make him feel like less of a man, and even worse about himself. I just wish he would talk to his doctor, get his testosterone level checked, something. rule out anything physical.  

It's so hard because i get turned on by him all the time, and it leaves me so frustrated, not only sexually, but also i crave physical affection from him. it also kills me that i don't have the same affect on him anymore.  

It's so true that this one issue can pervade the whole relationship, because we are at the point where we are not even planning a wedding. things are not good, and at the same time, i really want to work this out, because we were so in love, and i still love him deeply. I KNOW we could be there again, if he would only try.  

now I am taking antideppressants so i stop feeling so terrible about myself.  

 
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