Topic : 08/09 A Mother's Rage

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Created on : Friday, May 05, 2006, 06:58:58 am
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(Original Air Date: 05/08/06) Karen is a stay-at-home mother of five who says her anger is out of control. She fears that if she doesn't get help right now, she'll fly off the deep end and do permanent damage to her children. Cameras placed in her home capture an alarming day in the life of Karen and her kids as she degrades and rages at them, and physically abuses her 10-year-old son, Brandon. Karen's husband, Jim, who says he has no idea what goes on in their home while he's at work, sees the home footage for the first time. What is his reaction? Then, hear from Brandon and his 9-year-old sister, Shayna, who describe what it's like to be a small child on the other side of a mother's intense rage. And, what did they tearfully tell the producers about how their dad disciplines them? Plus, Dr. Phil shows how Karen's 3-year-old twins are coping with their fear. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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Some viewers have raised questions about whether the Dr. Phil show reported Jim and Karen to the authorities after the taping of this show. Other viewers have expressed surprise that Karen and Jim's children were allowed to go home with them after the show.

Please be assured that immediately following the taping of "A Mother's Rage," the Dr. Phil show did make a report to local child protection authorities. As a mental health professional, Dr. Phil is required by law to make such a report if he has concerns about the safety, welfare or well being of a child. However, Dr. Phil does not himself have the authority to remove children from their parents' home.

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May 8, 2006, 2:38 pm PDT

Turn Her in

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You should do the right thing and turn her in right now.  The people that need your help the most is those children.  Forget about her your can try and save her later.  Help those children.  I am the mother of 3.  This is a crime and if you do not save those children they are likely to repeat this behavior with their own children because they do not know what good parenting is.  She has a HUGE self esteem problem that she has to be little her children by calling them names she is destroying those children for her self satisfaction.  TURN HER IN NOW  

  

 
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May 8, 2006, 2:39 pm PDT

Child Abuse - Why have kids??

I have cried myself sick over this show.  Why do people continue to have kids if they hate being a mother so much?  Those kids need to be taken away from those sick parents.  There are too many people who want to love and adopt kids.  I just can't get over this.
 
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May 8, 2006, 2:39 pm PDT

A Mother's Rage

I never take the time to register for anything, so the fact that I did means a lot.  Today's show, and I've only so far seen 30 minutes of it, has outraged me.  This mother should be in jail.  I don't care what angers you, when you put your hands on your child you do not deserve to be a parent (And I'm not talking about parents who occasionally spank their child on the butt for not listening).  She is out of control.  She is selfish and does not care about the damage she is inflicting upon her children.  It's disgusting and someone should take her to a bedroom, beat her senseless, call her an idiot and an f***** bitch and let her see how that makes her feel.  She is a bully and she wouldn't dare do that to someone who could defend themself.  She controlled her behavior when she needed to (I.e., the telephone call) so she is clearly in control when she wants to be.  She is NOTHING but a bully and those kids are beautiful and deserve better.  Its disgraceful and disturbing.  You cannot give back broken self-esteem and crushed spirits, those children will work to mend their injuries for years after she has inflicted the pain.  She does not deserve those children.  And I find it hard to believe her husband had no idea what she was like.  If I sat on a stage and watched a video of my husband beating my son and calling him degrading names (Supposedly never hearing that before) I would be out of my chair and someone would have to hold me back.    

   

Both of these parents are worthless and horrible and I do not think that is harsh.  My stomach is turning from just watching, I can only imagine what those children must feel like.  

   

   

 
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May 8, 2006, 2:39 pm PDT

Please don't allow them to go back in their care?

   

   

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I watched the show today and my heart ached. No person should be treated like that let alone a child, it was disgusting to watch but I felt I had too.

I am a child of physical  abuse and even at the ripe old age of 28 I still have many issues relating to that abuse.  

   

I absolutely understand your objectivity  ......but to allow those kids to return home to that life unprotected is incredibly dangerous.  

   

U seemed to minimize the fact that the father admittedly kicked and beat the children with a stick. Based on the abuse the mother made those children endure, he may have appeared to be the lesser of the two evils but  to allow him to  be protector of those children is irresponsible. (from the details discussed on the show)  

   

Counselling isn't enough for this kind of abuse .....these children need to be removed until the parents are deemed to be safe and responsible.  

   

The pain from abuse never goes away .....no amount of counselling can heal this, but being taken out of the situation does allow for personal growth and an earlier start in the healing process.  

   

Please Dr. Phil....please monitor these beautiful  children and ensure that they do not endure any further abuse ....the damage has already been done.  

   

   

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Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

  

 
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May 8, 2006, 2:39 pm PDT

05/08 A Mother’s Rage

Wow! I was blown away when I saw this show.  I've been thinking of the children all day.  I've also been thinking about the mom and how wonderful it is for her to recognize when she needs help.  I applaud her for that.  I sat watching the show and thinking about my own childhood and how I could relate somewhat to the children....fearing my mother and never knowing what mood she'd be in at any moment.  I was not physically abused by her like these children, but I've ridden their emotional roller coaster.  It's hard for a child to grow up in a dysfunctional family, especially when the parents pretend nothing is wrong.  The children start to doubt themselves and learn not to trust themselves or others.  It's a vicious cycle and I'm glad to see the parents getting help.  I hope the children also get counseling for what they've been through already....
 
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May 8, 2006, 2:39 pm PDT

upset mom

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I cant belive what I just saw. It makes me want to have all five children in my home to be loved and cared for,and have that woman locked up. I have had 4 children of my own I lost my daughter in a accident 2 and a half years ago, I miss her so much. It hurts me so badly to see these poor children treated like their no better than trash to there own mother.  Childen are such a blessing and it kills me that children have to go threw this. This mother has know idea what a gift of five children she has and how hard it is to live without your childen in your life. I pray that those children have a place to go away from this woman, where they can be loved. I've cried threw this entire show I hurt so badly for those children.
My sympathies to you for having lost your daughter.  My husband lost his brother in an accident 12 years ago and I saw first hand what his parents went through losing a son.  You're right, children are a blessing and as a mother of two girls I think I would go crazy if something happened to either of them.  Hopefully this show was a wake up call for the mother (and father). Only time will tell.
 
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May 8, 2006, 2:39 pm PDT

I understand where she's at...

I just wanted to applaud this mom for being willing to air her problems on national tv.  Instead of pointing fingers and yelling "call CPS" we should be happy she's willing to get real and honest and take a good look at her life.    I deal wtih this issue myself, and im going to use Dr Phils tips and suggestions to get myself some help.    If you've never been where she is...dont judge how she acts!!!   Pray for her, encourage her if you can, but dont judge...you dont understand what its like!
 
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May 8, 2006, 2:40 pm PDT

perfect show for mother's day

 a messege for Karen: what was on that tape was disgusting, why you still have custody of those kids, i will never know. unless you fix this, be prepared to never see those kids once they grow up or leave home. children are gifts from god, and to treat them like trash is unforgivable. i sincerly hope dr. Phil put some sense in your head, if not, may your dreams be filled with the images of you beating your son. this episode really disturbed me. i hope you correct your mistakes, not for you, but for your kids, who are so broken at such a young age.
 
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May 8, 2006, 2:40 pm PDT

Family need help

i do'nt really understand how the children can love their parents after what they have done to them but u can tell that they do. I hope that the parents are being watch while they are getting help  because God forbide that these children end up seriously hurt or died. The dept of children services should be contacted concerning this situation. I am sick and tired of children being abused by their parents. These children will be in my prays. Please Dr. Phil keep in touch with this family and please let your audience know what is going on. Thank you 

 
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May 8, 2006, 2:40 pm PDT

Absolutely Sick

I don't care what type of family history or any other excuse, what these parents do is sick and brought tears to my eyes during the home video clips.  My father came from a home of very severe physical abuse and has never repeated the cycle on any of us.  There is no excuse for violence towards children! If you are an adult,  you have the ability to make choices and clearly these parents are not capable of making choices in the best interests of their children and I hope that the children are removed from this environment. 
 

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