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Has the fire gone out in your love life? Share your ways to reignite romance in your relationship.

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October 19, 2007, 6:59 am PDT

Reigniting Romance in Your Relationship

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I am experiencing something very similar. My husband also told me he doesn't know how he feels about anything. He started seeing a counselor by himself a few months ago and ended up moving out a little over a month ago. We plan on getting marriage counseling, but although he is willing to try, he is not ready yet.  I have also been trying to make a connection with my husband, but although he will hold my hand, kiss, and hug me, he has no interest in sex.

I think what you need to do now is exactly what you are doing. Good luck.

Thanks for the message.  I hope it can work out for you too.  It is really disheartening and hurts to hear that "sometimes" he is attracted to me.  Financial stress is also a big part of our problem and I do not see that lessening any time soon.  I have lost 14 lbs so far and have started going to the tanner and am getting highlights next week.  He is going away for a week on Sunday for a golf trip and I am hoping to lose another 10 lbs by the time he gets home.  I am just hoping that if I can lose all my weight that will help.  It is really hard to try to be touchy feely when I do not know if I am just bugging him and if I am just grossing him out if I initiate sex.  Arrrrgh!  I also feel an emotional mess all the time.  I am trying to be understanding that he is not ready yet to try like I am doing.  It is only going to work if he can change his attitude and with all the stress, I am not sure he will.  Life sucks!
 
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October 24, 2007, 5:54 pm PDT

High sex drive meets lack of sexual attraction (again)

 Never crossed my mind I'd go down this path, but extreme problems call for extreme measures. Any advice would be superbly appreciated. I'm new to this forum and have read about 60 pages without finding a post I can relate to in its entirety.

Without further due, my problem is I cannot bring myself up to make love to my wife. On the other hand, I have fantasies with about 8 out of 10 other women that cross my eyesight each and every day (at work, on the train, on the street, at the grocery store...everywhere, anywhere, anytime!).

While I love and respect my wife very much and consider her a very good person and excellent mother of two (we're both 35, with a toddler and an infant), I was the kind of guy that could never commit to the same gal - hence I had many sexual relations before marriage and would grow bored out of one and right into another. My sex drive is warp-like and I am obssessed with large breasts. So much so much I've had to relieve myself pretty much on a daily basis (yes, I'd rather masturbate than make a move on my wife). Even more so, it's gotten to the point that it hurts when summer rolls in and women dress more casually.

I began to realize this was a matter of lack of sexual attraction, however, my love for my wife and my children would never be compromised in the form of extra-marital actions. Still, I always wondered if I'd hold true to these words if that opportunity came to me and not the other way around. I don't want to find out.

All in all, I'm looking for help. Is there a way to fix sexual attraction or lack thereof?

 
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October 25, 2007, 10:54 am PDT

My husband is the same way

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 Never crossed my mind I'd go down this path, but extreme problems call for extreme measures. Any advice would be superbly appreciated. I'm new to this forum and have read about 60 pages without finding a post I can relate to in its entirety.

Without further due, my problem is I cannot bring myself up to make love to my wife. On the other hand, I have fantasies with about 8 out of 10 other women that cross my eyesight each and every day (at work, on the train, on the street, at the grocery store...everywhere, anywhere, anytime!).

While I love and respect my wife very much and consider her a very good person and excellent mother of two (we're both 35, with a toddler and an infant), I was the kind of guy that could never commit to the same gal - hence I had many sexual relations before marriage and would grow bored out of one and right into another. My sex drive is warp-like and I am obssessed with large breasts. So much so much I've had to relieve myself pretty much on a daily basis (yes, I'd rather masturbate than make a move on my wife). Even more so, it's gotten to the point that it hurts when summer rolls in and women dress more casually.

I began to realize this was a matter of lack of sexual attraction, however, my love for my wife and my children would never be compromised in the form of extra-marital actions. Still, I always wondered if I'd hold true to these words if that opportunity came to me and not the other way around. I don't want to find out.

All in all, I'm looking for help. Is there a way to fix sexual attraction or lack thereof?

Hi Canine7

 

Thank you for your post.  I have only been using these message boards for a week.  I have been talking on the How Porn affects relationship message board. 

 

My husband and I do not have sex very often either.  It would go months before we could be intimate. I thought he was cheating on me, in a way he is because he is MBing to porn all the time.  After talking with others on the other message board I have found out that he is a sex addict, even if it is for porn it is still a sex addiction.  He would rather JO watching porn that have an any sexual situations with me.  I am looking back on when we first met and we were really into sex, but after about 7 years of being in our new home things just have gone haywire.  I have not talked to him about me thinking that he is an addict yet. Maybe you can shed some light on that for me.  There is a web site called www.sexhelp.com I think you need to look at that.

 

Sorry for you pain and wish I had some more help for you.  The good thing is that you still love your wife so that means you can get the help you need and make it work.  There is a man on the other web site calls himself yamama, he is a sex addict as well and him and his wife are recovering from it, he has been going thru thereapy for some time now and coping with all of it.  You should post on that message board as well.

 

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October 25, 2007, 1:21 pm PDT

thanks poetkitty

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I feel for you. It's difficult to feel constantly disappointed by the man you love. Sex does not necessarily promote intimacy in a relationship...intimacy can lead to sex and sex can lead to intimacy, but generally after a decade + of marriage, we're all looking for greater emotional intimacy...a feeling of deep connectedness with our partners. When we feel this connection, we tend to want sex. Sex without this connection can feel hollow.

 

Have you had a frank, unhurried, sit down conversation about the aspects of your marriage you'd like to improve? You could start by asking his opinion about what's good and what's lacking in your marriage. Preface it by saying that all marriages have problems and you think yours are managable. Encourage him to speak freely and try to see where he's coming from. Has he ever been romantic? Has he ever been thoughtful?  If he has in the past, and isn't any more, remind him how good it made you feel. Maybe he thinks that after 10+ years of marriage, 'courtship' shouldn't be necessary. Has he always been uncommunicative or is this a recent thing? What are his strong points - is he a good provider? Is he good with your children? Does he take an active interest in domestic affairs? Does he have other good traits like honesty, integrity, a good work ethic etc. Is he an all round great guy that is just romantically challenged, or is he depressed and withdrawn in general? Does he understand what you truly want from him? Chocolates and flowers may not be his thing...but is he thoughtful in other ways? Does he gas up your car, or help out at home, or relieve you of tasks you find overwhelming?

 

If he does none of these things, then it sounds like he's checked out of your marriage because of depression or some outside pressures he can't handle or perhaps he's just incredibly selfish or uncommitted.

 

Sex is complicated. Couples incredibly connected and happy could want it continuously and at the other end of the spectrum, it could be used to mask a general disconnect. "Hey, we have a great sex life - our marriage MUST be good." It could also be the only way your husband knows to communicate anything with you. It could also, unfortunately, be merely incredible selfishness on his part. "Life sucks, but at least I get to have sex every night."

 

I don't think, ultimately, that asking for what you want in any relationship is wrong. But I think it's better to put a positive spin on it. Rather than saying, 'You make me feel invisible" you could say, "When you ask about my day, I feel cared for - I feel that you're interested in me..." Or, "I think sex is best when we've enjoyed each others company before hand."

 

I think you need to do an autopsy on your marriage - perhaps write out all the good parts and bad parts - over the course of a week or so. Keep a running tally or commentary and try to do it as impartially as you can. If he did the dishes, then write it down. If he gave your kids some great advice, write it down. I know we're geared to look for the negative.

 

I hope you find out that he's a better guy than you thought, and whatever is lacking, can be created or resurrected. Beyond that, only you know whether you're willing to have a marriage where you feel anonymous and unappreciated.

 

 

I have had a frank sit down talk with this man about the state of our marrige. I have expressed to him that I really do love him, but I really need some help.the thing with me is I am a very emotional person, and end up crying in most of our conversations. this really turns him off. He really seems to be angry, and becomes very short with me. Mostly saying that he is sorry, and that he doesn't know what to do. He never had a good marriage modeled to him as well. When there weren't kids involved, I would come home to the smell of dinner cooking sometimes. but, now he is too tired. He does have a very physical job, and I know he is tired when he comes home. But, I am too, and life doesn't end when you walk in the door to your home. He's never really been real romantic. I have always been the one to get us out on a date. He's never really been communicative with me which is sooo frustrating. The only communication I get is mostly negative. We generally never have anything to talk about. I feel like Iam not on his level, and he just thinks that I wouldn't understand. If I comment on my day, he does not like to hear my gripes about my job. He will tell me to change the subject. He does have a very strong work ethic. and he is a good provider, only we are always struggling day to day to keep us going. He makes a bit of money, but, it is never enough. I have had to take on some part time jobs because he will not work any overtime. I feel like it should be him that  should take on a part time job. I have told him all of this. Should I question the doctor as to whether he needs some kind of help? I don't know. I think maybe he is depressed. I just know that I have had all I can take and he needs to get help, or try to, or something. I obviously am not able to help him.

 
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October 26, 2007, 7:03 pm PDT

How do I get it back?

About four years ago my husband cheated on me. I was pregnant with our second child, very sick and very stressed trying to cope with the pregnancy and a 2 year old. He left one day after telling me he no longer loved me and he didn't think he ever did...well long story short he cheated for 9 months and well I eventually took him back (stupid or not I do not know).. In the four years since, I have had anxiety like you wouldn't believe, I think it has everything to do with the affair, I can't seem to get the trust back, every time he wants to go out or every time he works late I think, well I don't know what I think...I honestly don't think he is having an affair again but I am scared he will even though he has shown me nothing but the best since he's been back...It's all in my head I really can't seem to get over the affair, It affects me EVERY day...I think about it all the time!!Some times I do go days with out thinking about it and for a little while it seemed to be getting better but arg!! We also have little to no intimacy and I think if we well I should say I, If I were able to "get back that lovin feelin" things may start to look up, I don't know.. I know that we should go to counseling but it was such a disaster when the affair was still happening that I don't know if I can go back to a counselors office and not totally have a break down...I don't want to leave my husband, I love him very much and I fought really hard to save my marriage from the clutches of an affair but I don't want to live like this, I want to see my husband in the same light that I saw him in before, I want to make love to my husband and not feel as though "she" is there with us..What can I do???
 
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October 26, 2007, 10:02 pm PDT

You and me both, bro...

Quote From: canine7

 Never crossed my mind I'd go down this path, but extreme problems call for extreme measures. Any advice would be superbly appreciated. I'm new to this forum and have read about 60 pages without finding a post I can relate to in its entirety.

Without further due, my problem is I cannot bring myself up to make love to my wife. On the other hand, I have fantasies with about 8 out of 10 other women that cross my eyesight each and every day (at work, on the train, on the street, at the grocery store...everywhere, anywhere, anytime!).

While I love and respect my wife very much and consider her a very good person and excellent mother of two (we're both 35, with a toddler and an infant), I was the kind of guy that could never commit to the same gal - hence I had many sexual relations before marriage and would grow bored out of one and right into another. My sex drive is warp-like and I am obssessed with large breasts. So much so much I've had to relieve myself pretty much on a daily basis (yes, I'd rather masturbate than make a move on my wife). Even more so, it's gotten to the point that it hurts when summer rolls in and women dress more casually.

I began to realize this was a matter of lack of sexual attraction, however, my love for my wife and my children would never be compromised in the form of extra-marital actions. Still, I always wondered if I'd hold true to these words if that opportunity came to me and not the other way around. I don't want to find out.

All in all, I'm looking for help. Is there a way to fix sexual attraction or lack thereof?

I'm right where you are right now. My wife got depressed after the birth of our daughter 9 years ago and we've had sex less than 10 times since then. She just isn't interested in sex or in my sex drive. I masturbate 1-3 times a week, looking at pictures I took of her and her big breasts. That's my sex life now. I was still attracted for about 8 years but this last year I lost any attraction to her at all. She just seems like a big (gained a lot of weight with the pregnancy, never lost it), selfish woman now. I didn't mind her size for 8 years, but now it's just a big turn off. I guess after being rejected and denied sex for so long, I don't find her attractive any more.

 

I don't have the answer, bro, but you're not alone.

 
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October 26, 2007, 10:39 pm PDT

Reigniting Romance in Your Relationship

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I am experiencing something very similar. My husband also told me he doesn't know how he feels about anything. He started seeing a counselor by himself a few months ago and ended up moving out a little over a month ago. We plan on getting marriage counseling, but although he is willing to try, he is not ready yet.  I have also been trying to make a connection with my husband, but although he will hold my hand, kiss, and hug me, he has no interest in sex.

I think what you need to do now is exactly what you are doing. Good luck.

I was warned that separating marks the end of a marriage. The relief one gets just from not having to struggle in a relationship oftentimes makes it hard to return to the marriage, not to mention that "space" oftentimes mean's "room to see other women/men". We've scheduled counseling. I won't separate until I know it's already over. But that's just me.
 
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October 29, 2007, 8:18 pm PDT

separating

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I was warned that separating marks the end of a marriage. The relief one gets just from not having to struggle in a relationship oftentimes makes it hard to return to the marriage, not to mention that "space" oftentimes mean's "room to see other women/men". We've scheduled counseling. I won't separate until I know it's already over. But that's just me.
Even though we are not living together right now, we do have a relationship. We talk pretty much every day, attend church together on Sundays, go out to lunch/dinner (sometimes with, sometimes without the kids), and other times, like Saturday night, he comes over and we watch a movie together. I think for us it is best to be apart and getting along well before attempting counseling.
 
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October 29, 2007, 10:13 pm PDT

The weight gain

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 HAHA I loved your last line!

My whole life I have been on the heavier side. I guess we both have let ourselves go. I would say I have lost and gained around 20 pounds, 15 of it was when I started taking birth control pills. My husband has gained around 20 as well. My exercise routine consist of chasing a 20 month old around all day! I also have 2 other children from a previous relationship. The way I dress, present myself, personal hygeine, everything is the same. When I was pregnant we had a friend living with us and he would buy ice cream every night. I had a really hard time saying no to it and i ended up putting on almost 35 pounds during my pregnancy.  I had lost all but 2 pounds when I went for my 6 week check up. Then when I went for my yearly exam I had lost 8 pounds more, putting me lower then my pre-pregnancy weight. But that was last year and I have found ice cream to be very comforting! I weight about 20 pounds more then I did at this time last year. When I ask him to support me when I am dieting ( don't bring home sodas or sweets) he always tells me we don't have enough money to buy "healthier" foods. SO we eat processed foods more then we should. By gaining this weight I have lowered my self esteem and I know my children see it. I just want him to be honest with out being mean to me about my weight and help me out by encouraging me to loose weight, not make me feel like crap because I gained some weight and make me feel repulsive to him.

Love yourself, no matter what the weight.  My husband put on 70 pounds. I see him no different.  In fact, I love his belly.  He still amuses me. He still is attractive. He is still the same man, just more of him.

 

There is nothing he could do to turn me off. 

 

I put on weight too.  He says he sees me no different.  Both of us turned heads before the weight gain.  We both still do, because we are confident and that attracts others. 

 

Make the weight loss for other reasons than to hold onto a man.  Looks fade in time.  Love shouldn't.

 
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October 30, 2007, 8:16 am PDT

trying to avoid divorce ,, what to do ,, to say to her ,, help

wife works way too much i end up to kep busy focus on my other passions  golf etc. we almost split up and have a had a very slow rconciliation, it was almost firing on al cylinders but it slowed down and has been sweet too each pther over the last few years but not romantic, reason being my wifes personality is she wants me too initiate reassure reach out first for a while then she come forward when its right for her, instead of both of us going for it and being a team. this low moving etc put me iin a scared mode and bummed out so i just jogged a lot golfed etc on weekends to keep busy while she worked late or did whatever in the weekend morinings. i have been ready to pop out of my skin and say lets stop this standoff i love you .but sadly i have been waiting on her to take the initiative because its always about her readdiness. so as a result after a few years like this she finally said this has gone on too long how do you feel. i told her i have love dher all along i just have been holding back in fear and she said the same thing.

sadly thoug she says its gone on too long. we have had many good talks about how we can correct our wrong habits. its like we both finally see things clear now.  i told her i dont wanna divorce, 20 yrs together .

she isnt saying much she is doing the thinking about it thing, i think some friends have her her side and dont know all of it and have gave her the idea we should end it.   ho wcan i waht should io do, i have just trying to focus on her and i as i want to and be solid. i am trying t o do waht i can without being pushy at all.  i think us splitting will be giving up . i told her she is who i want to be with,   any tips?

 
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