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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:02:55 pm
Author : dataimport
Think there's something wrong with your marriage because it doesn't go along with one of the common relationship myths that Dr. Phil outlines in "Relationship Rescue"?

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October 25, 2005, 9:26 pm PDT

Relationship Myths

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No, I didn't bring the children into the fight. I didn't threaten divorce in front of them. I did that after returning to our room and closing the door. I had told him b/f going to wake the children that we would discuss it later. Yes, I could face the discussion.  

  

I don't appreciate your judging me. You don't know me or my situation. I think that is disgusting!  

  

FYI, we have reconciled, and are reading The Relationship Rescue Book. We both realize that what we said was very hurtful to the other.  

  

  

I don't understand why people come to the message boards and ask for advice, whatever then they get offended by what is goven to them, just read the advice and go on, it doesn't mean a person has to do it, every one comes on here with theri own opinions and issues and ideas, all of us are different therefore we need to respect that and not be offended by some one we don't even know and remember we don't see faces and expressions and sometimes posts can be interpretted in several different ways and the ones reading don't usually have all the details.
 

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October 26, 2005, 10:53 am PDT

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first of all about the smoking, you knew he smoked in the first place and you cannot make some one quit a habit or change themselves for whatever reason, they must have the desire to do it and really the only thing you can do about that is to let him know that you love and care for him and try to encourage him but he isn't going to do it if he doesn't have the desire and if you keep hounding him about it. As far as having a baby, he may be a little scared to go to the doctor for fear of the unknown, again, maybe just be there for him and encourage him to do what is right for him, also, stress can prevent a person from getting pregnant, if you honestly and truly love your husband then you will stand by him and love and encourage him and enjoy being with him, have fun and enjoy your time together and don't think about and live in a dream world, go with the flow and hopefully he will get to the doctor if he really wants to figure this out, but it has to be on his own and not with someone hounding him, men tend to get turned off if they feel pressured to do something. Also, I had my first child at 37 and my second at 39, with very few problems, my first was a very easy and fun pregnancy, I would do her 10 times over, my second was ok as well, I was just a little tired at times but of course I had a one year old as well, so that played a part in my tiredness, both my girls came out as healthy as can be with absolutely no problems, it is different now then it was 20 years ago and you are not too young to have a baby. you need to enjoy your other child as much as you can and be thankful for the blessing that God has given you, love and adore your child and pray that the Lord will have his way when it comes to having another one. I have always wanted four kids and still think about it to this day and I am 42 years old, I don't have a problem with wanting to get pregnant again, but I am happy and content with the two little girls we have in our home now, they are our pride and joy and so what if we don't have any more, I am blessed with the family I have. be happy and content and love each other and your child and be there for each other, marriage is about love and caring for one another, keep the communication lines opened but don't push your agenda on your husabnd or you will fail your marriage, to me getting a divorce over these two issues is a cop out not to work things out and of course that is my opinion so don't feel offended. I am 100% for marriage and to me, adultry and being in an abusive relationship are the only good reasons for divorce and then I have seen some of those marriages put back together, remember your vows when you went into the marriage, no marriage is perfect, you need to figure out what is imporant to you and just because you divorce and remarry doesn't gusrentee that thingsa re going to be better.........

for your honest opinion.  Beleive me I have mulled over everything you said time and time and time again.  I constantly see things on both sides.  However why should I be the one in the marriage who has to make the sacrifices and be the one to "just be happy " with the way things are.  It's my life too and I feel that he doesn't see it that way.   It is my beleif that when you are married and your partener needs you to do something (that isn't immoral or illegal) you do it.  As far as being scared to go to the Dr for fear of the unknown well I don't buy that.  Every year that I go to the Dr I fear that he will find a lump in my breast or that they will find cancer cells on my cervix, those are real fears.  Finding out that we may need assistance in getting pregnant is no big deal.  I do things for him ALL the time that I don't want to do because I am his wife.  I do go with the flow on a lot of things, this man has  A LOT of idiosyncrasies that I just hold my hands up, smile and say "whatever"  I do love my daughter very much and I am very blessed to have her in my life.  Especially since when I was 20 I was told I may not be able to have children.  She is my miracle baby.  I have tried to convince myself that I'm OK with only her.  During that time I cried and cried and cried everytime I saw anything to do with babies or a family of more then one child.  I know I am not done. 

As far as the smoking, yes I did know he smoked before I married him, I just trusted his word that's all.  So far his word hasn't meant much, makes it hard to trust the things he says.  Plus he would be the one to benefit the most from quitting. 

You're very right no marriage is perfect and I don't expect a perfect marriage.  The last time I checked I didn't go into this marriage alone, it takes two people to make it work.  I need him to do 2 painless things for US.  I don't think it's much to ask.  You're also right in saying that if I remarry it doesn't guarentee that things will be better.  I don't want to be 50 and regret the last 21 years of my life for the sake of being married to this man.  I need to know how can I mentally deal with these two issues (which happen to be very important to me)?  Am I able to or will I hate him later in life? 

  

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October 26, 2005, 11:11 am PDT

Good for you

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No, I didn't bring the children into the fight. I didn't threaten divorce in front of them. I did that after returning to our room and closing the door. I had told him b/f going to wake the children that we would discuss it later. Yes, I could face the discussion.  

  

I don't appreciate your judging me. You don't know me or my situation. I think that is disgusting!  

  

FYI, we have reconciled, and are reading The Relationship Rescue Book. We both realize that what we said was very hurtful to the other.  

  

  

Some times when you are upset, angry and hurt it is hard to have your best intentions in mind.  It is great that you two recognized that wasn't the way you wanted things to go and that you are both willing to work on things together.  Together is how it should be.  I read that most of your argument was in your bedroom which is good.  Unfortunately sometimes the children will hear things (unless you can leave the house).  Which we know is impossible most of the time.  I hope the book works well for you both. 

Good Luck! 

 
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October 31, 2005, 4:15 am PST

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My husband and I have been married for 4 yrs This is my 2nd marriage and his 4th. We get along great and have a good time together as long as it is just the two of us. When we are with my family or friends he gets all possessive like and is real quiet and people think he is mad at them. We are not included in alot of things because of this. It bothers me and then when we go to his families I am like a second class citizen. It is unlikely that he will even respond to me because he is all over his family having a great time. We just moved to a new house and only have one neighbor. He is a single dad with two little misbehaving boys. The kids are rude and always hitting dad and mouthy. My husband drops me like a hot potato when ever the neighbor comes out of his house. He will walk right away from what we are doing to go visit. I do not like this guy next door. I am usually a good judge of people and something about this guy bothers me. I really feel hatred and I don't know why. How do you tell a neighbor that his kids are not welcome to come over, it's not the kids fault that their dad can't discipline them. I'm just rambling I guess. When I voice any of this to my husband I get the silent treatment. 

 
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October 31, 2005, 5:44 am PST

Slow down and take a longer look

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Hi everyone,  This is my first time on here so I'm just learning the ropes.  I'm not even sure if I'm in the right place, but I read some of the other posts and think I might be. 

   My question for advice is this:  my husband and I have been trying to have a baby for over 2 years now with no avail (he's - 37, I'm - 32).  I have gone to my Dr for the first stage of tests, my Dr figures I'm not the one with the problem because I have a child from a previous relationship.  My husband says he wants a child yet refuses to go for a semen annalysis.  I have been asking him, pleading with him, begging him, crying in front of him about it.  So now that I am 32 I am feeling the squeeze on having another baby.  How do I become OK with only having the one child? 

   Plus when I met him I told him I do NOT want to be with a smoker.  I watched my great uncle die of cancer from smoking and I do not want to see a loved one go like that ever again.  He told me he was trying to quit so I gave him the benfit of the doubt, well it's been over 3 years now and he hasn't even tried.  I am torn between just learning how to deal with these two major issues or just divorcing him now while I'm still young enough to find another man who does want to have children. 

  

Any honest advice would be greatly appreciated. 

  

Perhaps you are putting too much pressure on him.  Perhaps he is perfectly okay with the one child you have and doesn't feel an urgent need for another as you do.  Are you REALLY listening to what he wants??  He may just be be simply reacting to the pressure you are putting on him, and telling you what you want to hear.  This is certainly not a judgement, just an observation.   I believe that these "two major issues" could be easily rectified if they were discussed in a non-threatening environment with open communication and acceptance  .  Would you really divorce him just becuase he doesn't want to have another baby and becuase he won't quit smoking??   Whiel I appreciate totally what you are saying, it sounds kind of shallow to me.   

 
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October 31, 2005, 5:48 am PST

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 I have been married for almost 3 years and I really did not know that my husband is not close to his siblings or his mother or father.  I met them all when we were dating and they all seem to get along. I'm very close to my family and on holidays we have family gatherings. My husband NEVER wants to go and I end up alone all the time.  It truly bothers me and I think he is so envious of my relationship with my family and that's why he does not want to go around them.  He make "off the wall" comments like, "I forgot your family and you are so perfect, they couldn't do anything possibly wrong." Right around the holidays we have a big argument because he does not want to go and will not go. We came to the conclusion that we will drive separate cars and he can leave whenever he is ready to go because he says that I stay too long. This weekend I told him that Thanksgiving will be at my sister's house in Raleigh NC and he immediately said,"NO, I'M NOT GOING."  He said if it was at my other  sister's house he would have met me down there. We ended up getting in a big argument.  This is usually the only time we argue, what can I do and is it worth losing my marriage over? I really need some advice
 
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October 31, 2005, 7:44 am PST

Dr. Phil's Relationship Rescue book

Iam also reading the book and stuck at the part where we are suppose to write down our Emotional ,physical, spiritual needs. I have been pondering over this section for several days 

and can not still come up with answers to these. I do not recall what he says to do if we do not 

even know these ourselves. I do recall him saying how can we tell someone our needs, if we do not 

even know them ourselves ????  Any help ??? 

 
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October 31, 2005, 10:24 am PST

Relationship Myths

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 I have been married for almost 3 years and I really did not know that my husband is not close to his siblings or his mother or father.  I met them all when we were dating and they all seem to get along. I'm very close to my family and on holidays we have family gatherings. My husband NEVER wants to go and I end up alone all the time.  It truly bothers me and I think he is so envious of my relationship with my family and that's why he does not want to go around them.  He make "off the wall" comments like, "I forgot your family and you are so perfect, they couldn't do anything possibly wrong." Right around the holidays we have a big argument because he does not want to go and will not go. We came to the conclusion that we will drive separate cars and he can leave whenever he is ready to go because he says that I stay too long. This weekend I told him that Thanksgiving will be at my sister's house in Raleigh NC and he immediately said,"NO, I'M NOT GOING."  He said if it was at my other  sister's house he would have met me down there. We ended up getting in a big argument.  This is usually the only time we argue, what can I do and is it worth losing my marriage over? I really need some advice
No, it is not worth losing your marriage over. I think the two of you need to sit down and make some plans together. maybe you can plan holidays at your home together and invite whoever the BOTH of you are comfortable with, holidays are suppose to be fun and happy and since you did make vows to this guy, he is your husband and if you love and respect each other at all then you will both be willing to compromise and come up with a plan. Maybe you can still plan on visiting your family as well and so what if he doesn't want to go, you can't make him do something that he isn't comfortable doing for whatever reason it may be, you can't change him, only your self so you need to decide what you are going to do to make things easier and happier. Work on the plans togetehr and both of you can decide what part you will participate in together and what parts seperately, it can work that way, I am not close to my family either but I choose my husband over them becaue it best suits both of us and our children, do what works for yuo and your husband, I personally believe that your marriage should come first and of course that doesn't mean that you shouldn't go around your family, it just means work together........
 
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November 1, 2005, 10:36 am PST

Your behavior?

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My husband and I have been married for 4 yrs This is my 2nd marriage and his 4th. We get along great and have a good time together as long as it is just the two of us. When we are with my family or friends he gets all possessive like and is real quiet and people think he is mad at them. We are not included in alot of things because of this. It bothers me and then when we go to his families I am like a second class citizen. It is unlikely that he will even respond to me because he is all over his family having a great time. We just moved to a new house and only have one neighbor. He is a single dad with two little misbehaving boys. The kids are rude and always hitting dad and mouthy. My husband drops me like a hot potato when ever the neighbor comes out of his house. He will walk right away from what we are doing to go visit. I do not like this guy next door. I am usually a good judge of people and something about this guy bothers me. I really feel hatred and I don't know why. How do you tell a neighbor that his kids are not welcome to come over, it's not the kids fault that their dad can't discipline them. I'm just rambling I guess. When I voice any of this to my husband I get the silent treatment. 

 Why do you hate your behavior? You didn't write anything about what you have done to deserve self hatred.

Or is it a lack of behavior that you don't like? Are you not doing something you feel you should be doing?

You also express a hatred for your neighbor. He has rude kids who hit him and mouth off to him, but he doesn't discipline them. Does his lack of behavior mirror your own? Is this why you hate him?

Your husband tolerates you being treated like a second class citizen at his families', gets possessive and defensive at your families' or with your friends, and is slowly isolating you. He "drops you like a hot potato" when the neighbor shows up, and won't address his health problems due to smoking. He also wants a dog, but you know he will mistreat it. You know in advance that it's all your fault where he is concerned. (I borrowed the last 2 examples from other boards where you have posted.) Yet you express no anger at your husband.

Get some paper and a pen and begin writing about why you hate yourself, and anything else that comes to mind. Don't worry about making it legible for anybody else, nobody else will read it but you. Be completely honest with yourself and KEEP WRITING until you come to a different place in your perspective. I don't care if you go through a whole notebook and  your fingers fall off. The act of writing it will help to clarify your inner turmoil, and help you see what you have been telling yourself. If you tell yourself that you are pathetic and unworthy of love, that's exactly what happens. Then, if you have written things that will get you into trouble with someone else, simply destroy it, you won't forget the emotional impact of the exercise even if you do forget the exact words. The point is to get it out, see it, and accept it. You can't fix what you don't own, and it seems to me that you are in denial about some things. Good luck.
 
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November 1, 2005, 10:55 am PST

Be honest with him.

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I have been married for 8 years, I am finally at my wits end, since I have know my husband 11 years, he has always needed somthing to excite me I am coming to realize, at first it was me, than the marriage then the children then a business then a affair then another business and know after  going into major debt for this last business, He want to throw a great job where he make great money to try another business, I feel like he will never be happy with what is going on in his life that he is always going to have one foot in the other direction.  I am 35 want another baby badly, but I'm scared. I love him he is a great dad and beyond the affair a great husband and provider.  I scared that his roaming way ( and I mean that in his next big job, aventure, ect not affair) that i will live my life alway on gaurd as to where our life is headed. I would love to hear any advice anyone has for me. 

Scared and confused 

 You may have to get some marriage counseling to get through to him, some men need more than just a one on one to get their attention.

You need to let him know that you are feeling insecure and dead last on his priority list. The insecurity stems from his failed business ventures, the affair, and the fact that new things are likely to keep popping up.

I have a real go-getter of a husband too, he is always looking for the next big venture. Some are great, some are disastrous. I don't fault his initiative, and he's always provided for me and our kids, but the roller coaster ride can be scary. What I did long ago was to make him agree to do some things to make the ride a little smoother for me. We have retirement savings and emergency savings in place, and adequate insurance to cover any unforseen incidents. We schooled ourselves in the wise use of debt, so we don't get into finacial difficulties if he has another disaster. He did these things for me, and I let him pursue business ventures. This might help with some of your problems.

The affair will need some more. It is NOT OK for him to treat you and the kids this way. You would both benefit from some personal counseling along with marriage counseling, this is a grave hit to your marriage. I would recommend Dr Phil's books too, all of them. Take control of your situation though, you don't have to be a passenger in your own life. If he won't get counseling, go yourself anyway.
 
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