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Do you believe in true love? How about love at first sight? Is it possible to cheat on someone you love? Can true love die? Tell us what you think!

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November 7, 2005, 4:04 pm PST

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 I used to believe in true love.  I believed with all my heart there would be a man that you give me the world.  I believed he would give me his whole heart and I all had to offer.  I never thought I would be where I am.  I am in love with a man and our life, but for me to say it wa true would be a lie.  He has cheated, he does not love me completely, he thinks of himeself more than us and he is neglectful.  I don't want to be spoiled to say I have true love, but I want to be needed and respected.  I would be lost without my husband.  I would have a huge hole in my heart.  He would be the same without me.  except he'd have to cook, that's why he would miss me.  I would go the end of Earth to make him happy.  If he had to walk to the mailbox to make me happy he wouldn't.  What was once incredible is just there.  I take it for the kids.  He's not abusive.  He's just not loving.  I cannot have any interests without him second guessing my thoughts.  My likes in music are always an issue.  He gives more thoughts to his friendships than to me.  He can always tell me no, but not to a friend.  I'll never be first or even second, so this can't be true love.
 
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November 7, 2005, 8:32 pm PST

true love does it happen????

true love is it out there. some says yes and others no!! i want to know how to tell?? men truely are from venus..i gave up on trying to understand the male species..i know that i do have one boy that i dated when i was 17 on and off fot about 3 yrs.ended up getting pregnate by him but of course it was not kid. i have raised her myself don't want a damn thing from him, but she is totally different she wants to confront him about it..says its something she's gotta do for herself..i know i can seem to get him out of my mind i dream about him ,see things yhay remind me of him...so i guess i am saying that yes i do bekieve there is true love out there.
 
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November 7, 2005, 9:37 pm PST

when you least expect it

Everyone always told me when you least expect it you will meet someone. Or they said... when you aren't looking...  but aren't you always looking?  I was in my office and a man (a very good lookig man) walked in and introduced himself.  He was in a related indusrty and was looking to do business together.  All I kept thinking about was too bad he is married! We chatted for a bit and when he left the office I turned to several people there and said, "the good ones are always taken."  Ironically he went back to his office and said to some of his co wokers, "I met a great looking woman today...I could be with her, but I am maried!" We did end up doing business together and became great friends.  His marriage began to fall apart, my relationship with my significant other had fallen apart and we still were friends through all of it, and business associates.  Then three years after his seperation and my still not having met the man of my dreams....  it happened.  We just clicked and now it is almost two years later and I have never been so happy. We are best friends, lovers, and true companions.  It just took over 10 years for it to happen.  When it is ment to be it will be and it was... when I wasn't looking!  I got my wish after all. He became available! And the funniest part of the story is the day we first met we both felt the same way about each other and neither of us were "available."  So many years later we still felt the same way. True love is meant to be!
 
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November 8, 2005, 7:20 am PST

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I didn't just lose my true love, I let him go. Trouble is I didn't know he was my true love until he was gone. We were together for 5 years. After I broke his heart I asked him to marry me but too much damage had been done - he refused. We are now both married to other people and have one child each. I have an unhappy marriage and not a day goes by that I do not think about what a terrible mistake I made. I can not forgive myself for hurting him and pushing him away. I feel like my unhappiness now is punishment for hurting him. The thought of spending the rest of my life without him devestates me. I wish I could turn back time. I am sure he doesn't feel this way and is happily married. If I had a chance to spend some time with him again .. if only I could.    

I'm not even going to pretend that I know what the two of you are going through.  I'd be lying.  But I must say this as a married woman.  I hope that you are able to understand without taking offense.  I could give you the speech about resolving issues of past relationships before you marry someone but it's too late for that because the two of you have married someone other than who you profess to be your true loves.   

  

The reality is, you are married to someone else and that is where your focus should be.  When you stepped into the covenant of marriage, you made a decision to stick with your spouse "for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, for richer or for poorer, til death do you part".  So, your concern shouldn't be whether or not you should spend time with that ex.  Your focus should be on making your marriage work.  Your focus should be to protect your marriage from anything that would add to it falling apart.  It is possible.  You just have to choose. 

  

The truth is, we can't turn back the hands of time so we must live where we are.  We have to let go of the past in order to move on in the future.  This takes conscience effort.   

  

1.  Understand your position.  YOU ARE MARRIED!   

  

2.  Know that love isn't a "feeling".   How you feel when you're with a person is just a symptom.  When you truly understand what "love" is, you'll realize that you can love your present spouse even more so than that ex-love.  Love is patient, kind, unselfish, forgiving, considerate of others and not rude, endures and bears with.  These characteristics of love require us to "choose" and go beyond how we feel.  Feelings change, love doesn't.  How you choose to express love may differ but love is what it is.   

  

3.  This may be the most difficult for you to chew on but here goes.  The vows that we made to our spouses was also made to God and just because that other spouse isn't doing their part doesn't mean we are not required to fulfill our part.  By now you are shaking your head.  That's okay.  I'm used to that response.  Imagine if every married person actually understood the vows they made and what "covenant" relationship is truly all about.  There would be no divorce.  Unfortunately some people don't get married for the right reasons, some people don't get married understanding their vows, and some people don't understand what love really is so they get married based on how they feel.    Marriage is both beautiful and challenging. 

  

As Joyce Meyers would say "I am always on my mind".  What does that mean?  We're always thinking about self.  We're always looking for someone else or something external to make us happy.  Imagine if we actually found pleasure in making someone else happy. hmmmmmmmmmmm. 

  

It can't be easy being a stay at home mom when your spouse is working all the time.  But until your husband gets a revelation from God about his true position in the home, men tend to lean toward working alot because that is their way of showing love to their families .... by providing.  It may not be the best expression to a woman when we need hands on attention, but ask any man.  Most men, with the acception of lazy bums, think that when they provide for their families, they are showing love.  Unfortunately it is unbalanced because they provide materially but the emotional and relational side gets neglected. 

  

Do I have any suggestions that might help? 

  

1.  Get connected with women who are in successful marriages that will encourage you to press through and not give up? 

  

2.  Allow God to heal that area of your heart that longs for someone other than your spouse? 

  

3.  Don't fall for the trick of emotions that causes you to migrate toward another man just because you are not currently pleased with your spouse? 

  

4.  Train your mind.  Yes, it is possible.  A famous quote says, "you can't stop a bird from flying over your head but you can stop it from making a nest in your head".  When thoughts of that other man come, think of your husband.  When your husband displeases you, don't sit and mull over it unless you're looking for productive solutions to have a successful outcome.  What we spend time thinking about makes a home in our hearts and eventually manifest in our behavior and words. 

  

5.  Don't make someone else responsible for your happiness.  The truth is, we should be happy before we get married because we are emotionally healthy.  Unfortunately, many people get married broken and use marriage as a means to fulfill some area of emptiness.   

  

6.  Realize that we all make mistakes and don't have to live our lives in guilt and condemnation.  You can move on.  It is up to you.  Forgive yourself.  If you have an opportunity to repent to the other person do so, but if you don't have the opportunity, receive forgiveness for yourself and move on.  It may take some time, but you can do it.  Not forgiving yourself is the same as not forgiving someone else because you are important to God.   

  

7.  READ.  We go to school to get trained professionally.  We read books to further our careers.  Why not invest in a good book on marriage to help us where we are falling short?  We all need help.  No one is born into the world knowing how to be married.  Can I suggest a few?  "Power of a Praying Wife" by Stormie Omartian.  "Love and Respect" by Emerson Eggerichs.  "Divorce Proof Your Married" by Gary Rosberg.  "Help, I'm Married" by Joyce Married. 

  

Best wishes to both of you ladies.  I hope that you will choose to let go of the past, forgive where it is needed (self or someone else), and grab hold of what can be a wonderful future with your spouse. 

  

 
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November 8, 2005, 7:36 am PST

Portofino and Bcmoore

The message I wrote was for both of you. 
 
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November 8, 2005, 3:38 pm PST

True Love

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I'm not even going to pretend that I know what the two of you are going through.  I'd be lying.  But I must say this as a married woman.  I hope that you are able to understand without taking offense.  I could give you the speech about resolving issues of past relationships before you marry someone but it's too late for that because the two of you have married someone other than who you profess to be your true loves.   

  

The reality is, you are married to someone else and that is where your focus should be.  When you stepped into the covenant of marriage, you made a decision to stick with your spouse "for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, for richer or for poorer, til death do you part".  So, your concern shouldn't be whether or not you should spend time with that ex.  Your focus should be on making your marriage work.  Your focus should be to protect your marriage from anything that would add to it falling apart.  It is possible.  You just have to choose. 

  

The truth is, we can't turn back the hands of time so we must live where we are.  We have to let go of the past in order to move on in the future.  This takes conscience effort.   

  

1.  Understand your position.  YOU ARE MARRIED!   

  

2.  Know that love isn't a "feeling".   How you feel when you're with a person is just a symptom.  When you truly understand what "love" is, you'll realize that you can love your present spouse even more so than that ex-love.  Love is patient, kind, unselfish, forgiving, considerate of others and not rude, endures and bears with.  These characteristics of love require us to "choose" and go beyond how we feel.  Feelings change, love doesn't.  How you choose to express love may differ but love is what it is.   

  

3.  This may be the most difficult for you to chew on but here goes.  The vows that we made to our spouses was also made to God and just because that other spouse isn't doing their part doesn't mean we are not required to fulfill our part.  By now you are shaking your head.  That's okay.  I'm used to that response.  Imagine if every married person actually understood the vows they made and what "covenant" relationship is truly all about.  There would be no divorce.  Unfortunately some people don't get married for the right reasons, some people don't get married understanding their vows, and some people don't understand what love really is so they get married based on how they feel.    Marriage is both beautiful and challenging. 

  

As Joyce Meyers would say "I am always on my mind".  What does that mean?  We're always thinking about self.  We're always looking for someone else or something external to make us happy.  Imagine if we actually found pleasure in making someone else happy. hmmmmmmmmmmm. 

  

It can't be easy being a stay at home mom when your spouse is working all the time.  But until your husband gets a revelation from God about his true position in the home, men tend to lean toward working alot because that is their way of showing love to their families .... by providing.  It may not be the best expression to a woman when we need hands on attention, but ask any man.  Most men, with the acception of lazy bums, think that when they provide for their families, they are showing love.  Unfortunately it is unbalanced because they provide materially but the emotional and relational side gets neglected. 

  

Do I have any suggestions that might help? 

  

1.  Get connected with women who are in successful marriages that will encourage you to press through and not give up? 

  

2.  Allow God to heal that area of your heart that longs for someone other than your spouse? 

  

3.  Don't fall for the trick of emotions that causes you to migrate toward another man just because you are not currently pleased with your spouse? 

  

4.  Train your mind.  Yes, it is possible.  A famous quote says, "you can't stop a bird from flying over your head but you can stop it from making a nest in your head".  When thoughts of that other man come, think of your husband.  When your husband displeases you, don't sit and mull over it unless you're looking for productive solutions to have a successful outcome.  What we spend time thinking about makes a home in our hearts and eventually manifest in our behavior and words. 

  

5.  Don't make someone else responsible for your happiness.  The truth is, we should be happy before we get married because we are emotionally healthy.  Unfortunately, many people get married broken and use marriage as a means to fulfill some area of emptiness.   

  

6.  Realize that we all make mistakes and don't have to live our lives in guilt and condemnation.  You can move on.  It is up to you.  Forgive yourself.  If you have an opportunity to repent to the other person do so, but if you don't have the opportunity, receive forgiveness for yourself and move on.  It may take some time, but you can do it.  Not forgiving yourself is the same as not forgiving someone else because you are important to God.   

  

7.  READ.  We go to school to get trained professionally.  We read books to further our careers.  Why not invest in a good book on marriage to help us where we are falling short?  We all need help.  No one is born into the world knowing how to be married.  Can I suggest a few?  "Power of a Praying Wife" by Stormie Omartian.  "Love and Respect" by Emerson Eggerichs.  "Divorce Proof Your Married" by Gary Rosberg.  "Help, I'm Married" by Joyce Married. 

  

Best wishes to both of you ladies.  I hope that you will choose to let go of the past, forgive where it is needed (self or someone else), and grab hold of what can be a wonderful future with your spouse. 

  

I honestly believe that if people would look at the positive things in their marriages and their spouse, concentrate on how to please and care for one another and always remind them selves of the vows that thay took, they would be more willing and happy to work on their marriages. I agree with everything said in your post. Love is a choice and if you want your marriage to be loving and caring and lasting, then it can be, depends where and how you spend your time and energy. Marriage is a committment between two people and it takes 100% on both parts to make it as it should be and sometimes one might have to put in a little extra effort for whatever reason, but a happy and successful marriage is possible, it depends on how bad the couple wants it, it is definetly a team effort.
 
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November 9, 2005, 11:22 am PST

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I honestly believe that if people would look at the positive things in their marriages and their spouse, concentrate on how to please and care for one another and always remind them selves of the vows that thay took, they would be more willing and happy to work on their marriages. I agree with everything said in your post. Love is a choice and if you want your marriage to be loving and caring and lasting, then it can be, depends where and how you spend your time and energy. Marriage is a committment between two people and it takes 100% on both parts to make it as it should be and sometimes one might have to put in a little extra effort for whatever reason, but a happy and successful marriage is possible, it depends on how bad the couple wants it, it is definetly a team effort.
I thank God for an excellent pre-marital class and marital enrichment teachings at my church.  It is good to know that there are others out there who believe in the sanctity and success of marriage despite the astonishing divorce rate both inside and outside the church.
 
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November 11, 2005, 1:22 am PST

answers????

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I'm not even going to pretend that I know what the two of you are going through.  I'd be lying.  But I must say this as a married woman.  I hope that you are able to understand without taking offense.  I could give you the speech about resolving issues of past relationships before you marry someone but it's too late for that because the two of you have married someone other than who you profess to be your true loves.   

  

The reality is, you are married to someone else and that is where your focus should be.  When you stepped into the covenant of marriage, you made a decision to stick with your spouse "for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, for richer or for poorer, til death do you part".  So, your concern shouldn't be whether or not you should spend time with that ex.  Your focus should be on making your marriage work.  Your focus should be to protect your marriage from anything that would add to it falling apart.  It is possible.  You just have to choose. 

  

The truth is, we can't turn back the hands of time so we must live where we are.  We have to let go of the past in order to move on in the future.  This takes conscience effort.   

  

1.  Understand your position.  YOU ARE MARRIED!   

  

2.  Know that love isn't a "feeling".   How you feel when you're with a person is just a symptom.  When you truly understand what "love" is, you'll realize that you can love your present spouse even more so than that ex-love.  Love is patient, kind, unselfish, forgiving, considerate of others and not rude, endures and bears with.  These characteristics of love require us to "choose" and go beyond how we feel.  Feelings change, love doesn't.  How you choose to express love may differ but love is what it is.   

  

3.  This may be the most difficult for you to chew on but here goes.  The vows that we made to our spouses was also made to God and just because that other spouse isn't doing their part doesn't mean we are not required to fulfill our part.  By now you are shaking your head.  That's okay.  I'm used to that response.  Imagine if every married person actually understood the vows they made and what "covenant" relationship is truly all about.  There would be no divorce.  Unfortunately some people don't get married for the right reasons, some people don't get married understanding their vows, and some people don't understand what love really is so they get married based on how they feel.    Marriage is both beautiful and challenging. 

  

As Joyce Meyers would say "I am always on my mind".  What does that mean?  We're always thinking about self.  We're always looking for someone else or something external to make us happy.  Imagine if we actually found pleasure in making someone else happy. hmmmmmmmmmmm. 

  

It can't be easy being a stay at home mom when your spouse is working all the time.  But until your husband gets a revelation from God about his true position in the home, men tend to lean toward working alot because that is their way of showing love to their families .... by providing.  It may not be the best expression to a woman when we need hands on attention, but ask any man.  Most men, with the acception of lazy bums, think that when they provide for their families, they are showing love.  Unfortunately it is unbalanced because they provide materially but the emotional and relational side gets neglected. 

  

Do I have any suggestions that might help? 

  

1.  Get connected with women who are in successful marriages that will encourage you to press through and not give up? 

  

2.  Allow God to heal that area of your heart that longs for someone other than your spouse? 

  

3.  Don't fall for the trick of emotions that causes you to migrate toward another man just because you are not currently pleased with your spouse? 

  

4.  Train your mind.  Yes, it is possible.  A famous quote says, "you can't stop a bird from flying over your head but you can stop it from making a nest in your head".  When thoughts of that other man come, think of your husband.  When your husband displeases you, don't sit and mull over it unless you're looking for productive solutions to have a successful outcome.  What we spend time thinking about makes a home in our hearts and eventually manifest in our behavior and words. 

  

5.  Don't make someone else responsible for your happiness.  The truth is, we should be happy before we get married because we are emotionally healthy.  Unfortunately, many people get married broken and use marriage as a means to fulfill some area of emptiness.   

  

6.  Realize that we all make mistakes and don't have to live our lives in guilt and condemnation.  You can move on.  It is up to you.  Forgive yourself.  If you have an opportunity to repent to the other person do so, but if you don't have the opportunity, receive forgiveness for yourself and move on.  It may take some time, but you can do it.  Not forgiving yourself is the same as not forgiving someone else because you are important to God.   

  

7.  READ.  We go to school to get trained professionally.  We read books to further our careers.  Why not invest in a good book on marriage to help us where we are falling short?  We all need help.  No one is born into the world knowing how to be married.  Can I suggest a few?  "Power of a Praying Wife" by Stormie Omartian.  "Love and Respect" by Emerson Eggerichs.  "Divorce Proof Your Married" by Gary Rosberg.  "Help, I'm Married" by Joyce Married. 

  

Best wishes to both of you ladies.  I hope that you will choose to let go of the past, forgive where it is needed (self or someone else), and grab hold of what can be a wonderful future with your spouse. 

  

Thank you for your thoughts and advice. I appreciate what you are saying and admire your insight. Just one question.....how do you train your mind to love someone you don't feel love for? When I married my husband i was "in love" with him. I knew he wasn't my soul mate, that we were very different and thta I wasn't really attracted to him but I thought he was kind and that I would have a wonderful with him. Things have changed since then. Once a child came into our lives and things got a bit difficult we started to fight. Not just normal fights though.....my husband can be nasty and verbally abusive when he is angry. He also threatens to leave me, The first time was when I was 5 months pregnant. The fights became more and more frequent as did the talk (from him) about leaving me. He has said extremely hurtful things that I can't seem to forget or forgive.  

  

I have found that for the first year or so I could forgive him even though he never wanted to talk things through - "just get over it and move on" is his attitude....until the next time!! Now however i find that I have lost all feeling for him. I do not think I love him anymore. I find hin extremely ugly both inside and out and hate being with him.  

  

Tell me.......how do I forgive him and train my mind to love him again after he has hurt me so much? I try to honour my marraige vow but he doesn't..... I don't expect him (or us) to be perfect. I do however expect him to have respect for our relationship and threaten to leave everytime we disagree.  

  

It's not that I want to leave ..... I just don't have any feelings for him and can't seem to get them back. 

  

Can you explain how I should "train my mind" to love him? I don't know how. 

 

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November 11, 2005, 9:03 pm PST

How do you really know?

I am 25 and I fell in love 2 years ago to a wonderful man. He is kind, loving and considerate. We are not married yet, just engaged. So what is my problem? Well I feel as though I have missed out on my life. You see I moved out of my parents place and basically in with him, with no period in between were I was all by myself, making decisions and finding out who I really am. I moved from the city to a small town to be with him...I do not like where we live, but he will not live anywhere else. We live near his parents, and he is the good son, the one who helps with no questions asked, he nevers says no regardless of the circumstances. I mean what happens when we have children and they call and need his help? Or if we have plans and they call??? He and I have discussed it, and he assures me that he won't always say yes...but I have seen no proof that suggests that that is true. It makes me feel second in his life. I feel as though I am giving up my plan to live where I want too, just to be 2nd to his parents.
 
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November 11, 2005, 9:08 pm PST

When your husband won't deal with the past.....

I am hoping that someone may be in a similar situation or may have been in the past and possibly be able to give me some insight.  My husband and I have been married just over 2 years...it is a second marriage for both of us.  I believe that he is my soulmate....my true love....I feel so complete with him.  But lately I feel like our marriage is hanging on by a thread.  He wants to leave because I cannot give him children.  He knew this when we met...the 2nd day I knew him, I told him about me having to have a hysterectomy after my youngest daughter was born.  He knew from day one that having more children would not likely be in the cards for us before we even ever got serious.  So, why now after 2 years can he just act like..."oh...well I've changed my mind on that now".  It's crazy!  My daughters are so attached to him....they would be so devastated if he left.  I just don't know what to do.  After my first marriage, I knew what I wanted to do different to make this one work...I don't ever want to go through another divorce....I want this one to last until "death do us part"....I took my marital vows to him VERY seriously and I just don't know if he is trying as hard.  I don't know what to do.  He has 4 children already from his 1st marriage that he hasn't seen in over 3 years because of his ex-wife...she's just an awful, awful woman....and I'm sure that can't be an easy row to hoe for him.  But how can he think that leaving me and finding someone he can have kids with is going to "fix" all the sadness he feels inside?  He says he loves me and always will....but I feel that if he really did then he wouldn't even be thinking of leaving...he'd be trying to work through these feelings of needing another child, or he'd be talking to me about adoption, or other ways to have more children.  But, quite honestly, I want him to deal with everything from his past first....a child isn't going to fix whats going on within himself....only he can heal that.  But he seems to want to just run from it and run from me...the only person in his life that has loved him without conditions, and stood by him through some really rough stuff over the last 2 1/2 years.  How do I go about helping him and helping him see that running from things isn't going to help?  How do I do this without making the situation worse and losing him for sure?  Any ideas?  God Bless You....
 
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