Topic : Ready for Marriage?

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:09:04 pm
Author : dataimport
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May 26, 2006, 5:56 pm PDT

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I am nearly 34 years old.  I have been divorced for 8 years and I have been with my current boyfriend for 7 years.  Both he and I are divorced.  I have two beautiful boys (ages 14 & 12) he has two beautiful daughters (ages 15 & 13).  We feel like one great big family.  Here lies the problem.  I want very much to make this a reality.  I want to be part of his family.  I am sick of calling him my "boyfriend".  I love him and want to be his wife.  I think he wants to marry me too.  The only thing that is holding him up is the engagement ring.  I told him that I don't even care if I get an engagement ring.  He thinks that because he can't afford to get me a big rock that he will look cheap.  I don't care what people think.  I would love nothing more than to have a big rock, but if he can only afford a small ring than I would be fine with that too.  I just want to be a real member of his family, not a "friend" of his.  Any suggestions?
 He's using the ring thing as an excuse.  There are other reasons why he does not want to marry you now.  Ask him what they are.

Are you passively-aggressively nagging him about marriage (i.e.- "so and so at work got engaged!").  If so, he'll retreat even further.  Also, comments like "I don't even care if I get a ring" make you sound desperate and needy, also causing him to retreat.
 
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May 26, 2006, 7:30 pm PDT

Congratulations on your engagement

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I am newly engaged of about 3 months and I'm 20 years old.  Many of my friends are also getting engaged and getting married.  I am very worried that my generation isn't taking marriage very seriously in the sense that they have no plan - they just want to "live on love."  I think it's great that they have that passion and commitment, but I believe marriage is entering into sharing your entire life with a person which includes finances, jobs, and religion, among others.  Many of my friends don't have any financial plan or even full-time jobs.  Because so many marriages end in divorce especially over financial problems, it really scares me for them.  My fiance and I have already started to map out our budget for when we get married in about 10 months, and it really makes me feel a lot more secure that we have a plan.  I know this doesn't ensure that we won't encounter money problems, but I do feel like it is more preventative than doing nothing.  This could be a big concern of mine because I'm in school to be a marriage and family therapist, but does anyone else share my fear for society's lack of seriousness concerning marriage?
 I'm very happy for you. it is encouraging to hear this from a young person.  So many marriages end in divorce today.  They last under 2 yrs.-so sad. I am 43 yrs. old, never married. Been asked to marry several times, but each one wasn't prepared to actually be married. Hadn't resolved their issues.
I am very cautious when it comes to relationships. I feel the same as you-marriage is a very serious commitment-to be taken with the utmost of seriousness.
I wish more people were as serious in their plans for marriage as you are. It is so, so refreshing to read your letter.  It sounds like you and your fiance are headed in the right direction, with your senses intact and thinking about your futures. Please remember to surround yourself with positive people.
I wish you the very best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am seeing a great man-this is the longest I've been in a relationship and it feels so right and so good. I don't know if it will head into a marriage or not. He ended a 20 yr. marriage, 4 yrs. ago and was very bitter about it. He claimed he'd never get married again. He is no longer saying that!! He expressed that he hoped we would be together for a very, very long time. We care for one another very much and are very happy with one another. We are respectful of each others feelings and desires. We do not live together, either. I am happy and satisfied that we live apart. I enjoy my single life and I enjoy my time with him.
I remain very positive about our future, it is going in the right direction.
 
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May 26, 2006, 9:19 pm PDT

Deserves another chance, or not?

A little background info first. My fiance is the father of my youngest daughter. We met in college about 14 years ago. We had a on and off again relationship, because of him. He decided to be with someone else after I got pregnant.  About 10 years ago he came to me and really impressed upon me that I was the one he wanted to be with, that he wanted to marry me etc. We were living in different cities in the same state, which was the case most of the time.  Anyway...he cancelled a date with me once when he was supposed to come in to town and go see a comedy show with me. Come to find out he did come to town...he did go to the show, but with an ex-girlfriend, who also had a ring she called an engagement ring. It's a small world because one of my best friend's was in town, met a girl friend of hers to go to the same show, and the girl's boyfriend just happened to know "my guy". That's how I found out. I ended up finding out that he was living with the ex. So of course I knew I had to move on. I became celibate that day and have remained so until now. Sorry this is taking me so long. I dated someone else for about 5 years, that relationship ended, but  while I was still in that relationship, my daughter's father came to me again. He gave me details of bad relationships, women using him and professed his love for me once again. I didn't give in then. But two years after my other relationship ended I started dating him again long distance. He said he wanted to get married etc. but then my heart gets broken when he says  he got a young woman pregnant. He swears it was a mishap due to drinking and partying too hard and says he does not even remember the act. Several people I know think he should have a DNA test and that I should not marry him until he does. He has matured a great deal within the last two years, but I still have a hard time getting over this last incident with the child. I love him but I worry he will choose someone else over me again. Any thoughts?
 
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May 26, 2006, 9:48 pm PDT

men who dont want to get married

dr phii, why do we always have to convince women of all ages when a man does not want to get married that is what it means?  I had to learn the hard way several times and am currently married very happy.  I had to wait 12 years for him!  I have friends who constantly talks about their boyfriends who do not want to get married.  they have great excuses, I got hurt, i have been cheated on, used, i have been married before, im not emotionally ready or finanicially ready.  then there is the but i love you! please! they even buy them engagement rings to keep them quiet and keep getting fed, sex, etc. wah wah wah...  when someone puts but in there you should worry.   I keep telling them not to hurt their feelings just like someone told me I wasted problably 3 years HE DOES NOT WANT TO GET MARRIED PERIOD!  no one wants to here the truth and then we are all crying about it several months or years later because we did not listen.  there are plenty of men who want to get married.  leave the ones that don't alone.
 
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May 27, 2006, 6:09 am PDT

He wants to move in with me! I'm confused!

The guy I have been with for 4 years and have lived together for  3 of those years.  Well he retired at a young age and we moved to another state *he is semi retired works alittle just to have something to do.) We owned a home together but when we moved down here we decided we each should buy our own place and we were both in total agreement with this.  Well we decided he would  move into my home and we would rent his out.  After he moved in with me, everytime something does not go right or he feel frustrated or says I nag to much he leaves and goes to his place for days, this is not a new habit of his!  Well I allow him to do this to do as he needs to get over his frustration  Well this has happened so often and finally this last time he emailed me and said he wanted to move back with me, he missed me and loved me!  This time I said we needed to talk first and he didn't like this (before he would  just came back and I allowed it)  this time I couldn't.  He said he understood but then in the next breath said to me he feels I just want a casual relationship and he needs to think about whether we should be an exclusive couple or he should start playing the field!  I felt this was a threat he was intimidating me as he knows how much I love him!  I have stuck to my guns and have told him we need to have a long talk and should start dating again but he is welcome over here anytime just not moving back in till we can come to terms we both can agree on.  Now he is saying things at times that he knows will hurt me but I am trying to keep my cool.  He has said when he feels he is being treated unfairly or I'm talking crazy (I don't feel I am) he will do whatever he needs to to strike back!  

  

This is where we are at, him acting cool, or avoiding me or at times acting around me like everythig is fine and then I will just be the old me again.  I have also had issues of trust with him in the past with his ex and have told him he needs to earm my trust, he says I bring up things from the past (which yes I do as he keeps repeating the actions that lead to my no trusting him, I don't know what he is doing this time,) I want to trust him but I feel he needs  to earm it.  He says I need to put the past in the past, I want to but how do I when his actions are the same actions that caused me to not trust him, he maybe doing it again maybe not, I don't know, but I know I do not want to doubt this time.  I also do not want him to move back in then be gone again the next time he gets upset.  He has a short fuse, he gets very defensive whenever I try to talk to him.  He also expects me to do the running to him most of the time.  I do admit he is much better then he was but still has a ways to go.  

  

Any suggestions or insights here if you would I would appreciate it.  

  

  

 
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May 27, 2006, 10:27 am PDT

Ready for Marriage?

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Hang onto him with both hands.   

I totally relate to you...I have been seeing my boyfriend for about 9 months now..and i care about him so much.  Sometimes i wonder if things will work out...i think about when we first met...and it wasnt this "Euphoric" fealing that some people claim to have but i enjoy being with him and look forward to it. he makes me laugh and hes so caring and sensitive..i was engaged once before and obviously it didnt work out and i was also in another relationship after that...am i being cautious and just questioning things?...like maybe theres someone else out there for me...not that im saying i should settle but sometimes i feel like something is missing.  I just want to feel confident that i am going about things the right way...He talks about marriage, moving in together and having children..all of which i want...just not right now.  I just feel so guilty and ashamed that i have these feelings but the last thing i want to do is hurt him.
 
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May 27, 2006, 11:11 am PDT

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How do you almost get pregnant?  You kids spend so much time thinking about weather or not to get married because you got or got someone pregnant it amazes me.  Spend some time thinking about that before you have sex, talk about how to prevent the pregnancy before sex and you wouldn't be in this mess.  If you are so grown up and think you know it all then why are you getting pregnant in the first place, doesn't sound very grown up or responsible to me.

Just b/c i'm replying to this doesn't mean i need exact critisism from someone else. Believe me i keep getting this from almost everyone. I've got a mom who gives me this type of speech all the time.  I've been through enough in my relationship to have some common sense about how to be responsible. I've never gotten pregnant. And saying that i almost did doesn't mean we do stupid Sh_t like that all the time. God knows how many times i've spent hours thinking on how to deal with my sexual relationship with my boyfriend. i'm never pressured into sex. i have the free will to make my own decisions. I'm tired of everyone scolding me and telling me what i should do like i'm some little child. I've got a lot of stuff going on in my life right now. i don't need something thats going to make it worse along the way. I know how to deal with the whole sex factor. I'm sorry i was trying to give someone my opinion on thier situation. Thanks for yours. 

 
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May 27, 2006, 11:45 am PDT

To Tiffany

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Hi. My name's Tiffany and i'm 16. I've been in this situation before and it's not too fun. My boyfriend and i decided to have sex after about a month of dating. We made the bad mistake of not using a condom. Thankfully, i didn't get pregnant, but we did a lot of planning to ensure ourselves that everything would be ok if i was pregnant. This also happened to my older sister but she got pregnant. If you really want to married to your girlfriend, then you have to ask yourself: do i love her?; do i want to father this child?; and am i willing to make this committement? If you answered yes to all than it's a good idea that you do marry her.  If you really want to be with the baby and spend time being a dad and a good husband, there's no reason that it would be a bad idea. It could be one of the best things that happened to you. At this point there will probably be a lot of stress and difficult times but if you but aside all the bad and focus on the good, everything will be ok. I hope this helps and that all goes well. Keep-me-posted.

You state in a reply to someone else's message to you that you are "not a little child". Ummm... just so you know, 16 is a child.  You are not an adult AT LEAST until 18, and for most its usually much older.   16 and 17 year olds usually think they know everything and that everyone over 20 is elderly and has nothing to offer.  If you only knew just how much you DON'T KNOW, it would truly frighten you.  In 10 or 15 years, you will probably look back on this time in your life and be in awe of how naive you were.  When I think about myself at your age, I thought I was mature, too.  I thought I was responsible and could handle anything, and never wanted to listen to adults.  In fact, I'm wasting my energy even typing this because you are probably rolling your eyes saying to yourself  "whatever!"   

  

You do, however, sound somewhat insightful for a teenager.  I think when you grow up you will be quite bright and responsible.  For now, it is a good thing you are not pregnant.  There is not a 16 year old boy on the planet even remotely capable of fatherhood... and neither of you are old enough to be in a committed relationship.   

 
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May 27, 2006, 9:07 pm PDT

Are you sure

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Men are cowards.  They like the status quo.  This is his way of telling you he's tired of your relationship but doesn't have the guts to break it off. 

  

This is where you have to be mature, realize that the relationship is falling way short of meeting your needs.  You should explain to him that you are unhappy and that's why you are leaving. 

  

Don't tell him where you're going.  If he asks, tell him you haven't decided yet and when you're ready to speak to him again, you'll let him know.  Then drop him from your life and move on. 

  

  

I'm not quite certain that you have hit it on the head.  We are planning to buy a house or property and build a house closer to his job.  We even talk about us having kids one day.  I am just now starting to think I want kids and he is still in the not ready stage.  I don't think he is going to leave me or that he is tired of me.  Just the other day I have spoken to evidentally a very wise lady.  She told me its not me, it's him being a man and some men need to look at other ladys and do the sort of things he is doing.  As for the match.com, he is not subscribed to it and able to talk to any of the women on there.  I am keeping a check on that and believe me as soon as he does subscribe I will loose it. 
 
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May 27, 2006, 10:23 pm PDT

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You state in a reply to someone else's message to you that you are "not a little child". Ummm... just so you know, 16 is a child.  You are not an adult AT LEAST until 18, and for most its usually much older.   16 and 17 year olds usually think they know everything and that everyone over 20 is elderly and has nothing to offer.  If you only knew just how much you DON'T KNOW, it would truly frighten you.  In 10 or 15 years, you will probably look back on this time in your life and be in awe of how naive you were.  When I think about myself at your age, I thought I was mature, too.  I thought I was responsible and could handle anything, and never wanted to listen to adults.  In fact, I'm wasting my energy even typing this because you are probably rolling your eyes saying to yourself  "whatever!"   

  

You do, however, sound somewhat insightful for a teenager.  I think when you grow up you will be quite bright and responsible.  For now, it is a good thing you are not pregnant.  There is not a 16 year old boy on the planet even remotely capable of fatherhood... and neither of you are old enough to be in a committed relationship.   

Thanks for giving me a positive response. I didn't want to imply to anyone that i think i know everything. I hear that from everyone and i'm not afraid to admit that i don't know everything. I don't think that people in their 20's and over are old people. Every body's got opinions. I don't even know why i came to this message board. I guess i was looking for some advice but i found some angry responses. I've got my own opinions on the whole committed relationship thing. For now i'll just keep my opinions to myself in this message board. I'll have to find something else to do.
 
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