Topic : Ready for Marriage?

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June 23, 2008, 12:37 pm PDT

Living together does not work

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I'm all for living together before formalizing the engagement. 

If one's intent in marrying is only personal gain and living together is purely to "check them out first", then the marriage will probably have problems. Relationahips work when the intent of the marriage is agape (sacrificial) love. When one puts the other before themselves (and they both do it for this reason), it is highly unlikely that anything will happen to break the union. In that event where is the problem with living each other prior to marriage?  

Furthermore, in this day living together afore marriage no longer has a social stigma attached to it because it is now the norm, for the most part. 

I hope and pray that other couples share the happiness my boyfriend and I possess together, a promising relationship, a home and a life filled with love. Everything else, is mere material. 

The research has shown that couples who live together prior to marriage are three times more likely to divorce than couples who do not live together.

 

I saw this on CNN just a few years ago.

 
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June 23, 2008, 1:48 pm PDT

Where is the integrity?

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K I  met my dear boyfreind online. I  was seperated at the time. He was still married. He loved in a different town and I  talked to him and listened to him every night ther where nights where he would sing me to sleep over the phone. Well he has moved up to my town and we have a 8 month old boy together. He is a father to my daughter and I  homeschooled one of his boys last year. We are a family.. But I want to be his wife. I have sense divorced the abusive guy I was with and now I want ot be a wife and mother to our kids. how can I  get him to start the divorce procedings? I Know that it costs like 150 here to go through the courts and I know that we are strapped for cash. (  we suport his wife and her boyfriend also. ) I  am so ready. I know that he loves me and that he wants to be a family but I think he is scared that she is going to put up a fight about stuff. He left everything to her. ( but the kids one is 18 and one is 13.) We ussually have the younger of the kids and the older wants to live in his own town. She doesnt want to be divorced agian. this would be her second and I  want to be married. Help
I have a few questions for you: If he was divorced, would he marry you tomorrow? Is this something that the two of you have talked about? If money was not a concern and if his wife’s “issues” were not a concern, would he file for a divorce today?
Your boyfriend should be focusing on what is right and best for his children. He is the strongest male role model that they will ever have; right now, he is modeling for them that it is “normal” to have a wife as well as a girlfriend who you have children with. Instead, he should be doing the right thing, and that is to get a divorce! Whether he is going to get married again or not, he should get a divorce. He should go to the court house, file divorce papers- in the areas that pertain to the visitation/custody of the children, he should write the visitation schedule that they share now, and then pay the fee and file. It is really that simple! If she (the wife) does not “want” a divorce; that is too bad! I think that your boyfriend will discover that his wife is just as afraid of what he might want in the process of a divorce as he is scared of what she might demand. They share similar fears, but the best way to overcome those fears is to face them. For the integrity of his family, it is the right thing to do. If he stalls, continuing to put off filing for a divorce, I urge you to ask him what his long-term plan is for your life together. Does he want to just continue to live together, raising your children together, while he remains married to his wife? That would be disrespectful to you and your precious children. You deserve more. I wish you the best!
 
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July 6, 2008, 5:28 pm PDT

answers!

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I have a few questions for you: If he was divorced, would he marry you tomorrow? Is this something that the two of you have talked about? If money was not a concern and if his wifes issues were not a concern, would he file for a divorce today?
Your boyfriend should be focusing on what is right and best for his children. He is the strongest male role model that they will ever have; right now, he is modeling for them that it is normal to have a wife as well as a girlfriend who you have children with. Instead, he should be doing the right thing, and that is to get a divorce! Whether he is going to get married again or not, he should get a divorce. He should go to the court house, file divorce papers- in the areas that pertain to the visitation/custody of the children, he should write the visitation schedule that they share now, and then pay the fee and file. It is really that simple! If she (the wife) does not want a divorce; that is too bad! I think that your boyfriend will discover that his wife is just as afraid of what he might want in the process of a divorce as he is scared of what she might demand. They share similar fears, but the best way to overcome those fears is to face them. For the integrity of his family, it is the right thing to do. If he stalls, continuing to put off filing for a divorce, I urge you to ask him what his long-term plan is for your life together. Does he want to just continue to live together, raising your children together, while he remains married to his wife? That would be disrespectful to you and your precious children. You deserve more. I wish you the best!
Yes we would be married with in a month or 2 if he where divorced. I think some of the reason is that he is worred about her heath. ( she is having open heart sugury this month) Sher is 44 I bel;ieve andso it's not  garenteed thing going into it. He is 40 aand is torn between helping his kidsad not making herlook like the B**** that she has become. I  talk to his mm almost eveyday, She hastold me several times that people ther are not in the least suprized that they are sepeated she was cheating on him when they liv 5 years ago. She hasa BF living with her now and they are still needing moremoney then what they bring n. I  am just kinda tierd of being the other woma here. I  kow he loves me with all his heart but  aso hear him tell her that he loves here and if he doesnt she tells the kids that are wit he that he did something mean or said something mean and they stop talking to him for weeks on end. I  think it would be best for them tomove here but that isjust my opinion.  feel like I  am being put seconda lit but he wors close to 90 hours a week at work and get's side jobs that take himaway from us more.. He comes home every nioght t us and I  am not wrried that he is seeing anyoe else It is just kinda depressing it will be 2 years augst we have been dating and still not any close to being his wife. :( I  know he wants to wait til have sex even till weare married! ( we do have a aby together but we are trying to do the right thing here) no one believes me when I say we sleep in the sme bed and I havent been touched in 9 months! they think I am full f poo!
 
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July 6, 2008, 5:42 pm PDT

Should I marry him?

I have dated my child's father for 3 years. We got engaged October 2007. Things between us aren't all that good and I don't want to make a mistake on marrying him. But I just can't seem to leave him. We fight over the pettiest things and he is very stubborn, he always has to have the last word and whatever he says he has to be right. I love him very much but, our relationship has even gotten to the point of being abusive. Verbal, mental, and even physical. He apologizes and we're good for a couple of days but then something else happens and we're right back at it again. He smokes weed, he just recently got a steady job after being unemployed for almost 7 months. We both still live with our parents which is also a problem. His mother kind of gets on my nerves, and my parents gets on his nerves, even to the point where I have to drive over to his house just to see him!! My father has already expressed to me that this was unacceptable, me coming home all kinds of hours in the night, and my fiance not bringing me home. That has yet to change. I don't know what it is or what I am doing wrong but I am not very happy. He used to make me very happ. He was never the outgoing type, and even now that we have a baby, if we go out she can't. I don't know if it is because he wants to smoke and he knows he can't do that with her in the car. Or if he just thinks she is some trophy that he has to put in a case. There is so much going on between us, its just so hard to leave. I feel like if I leave I won't have anything left. He has isolated me from my whole family to the point where when I am at home, I can't stand to be there. We have planned on moving in together but I don't feel like that is a good idea. PLEASE HELP!!!

 

 
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July 7, 2008, 6:00 am PDT

Definately not a good idea

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I have dated my child's father for 3 years. We got engaged October 2007. Things between us aren't all that good and I don't want to make a mistake on marrying him. But I just can't seem to leave him. We fight over the pettiest things and he is very stubborn, he always has to have the last word and whatever he says he has to be right. I love him very much but, our relationship has even gotten to the point of being abusive. Verbal, mental, and even physical. He apologizes and we're good for a couple of days but then something else happens and we're right back at it again. He smokes weed, he just recently got a steady job after being unemployed for almost 7 months. We both still live with our parents which is also a problem. His mother kind of gets on my nerves, and my parents gets on his nerves, even to the point where I have to drive over to his house just to see him!! My father has already expressed to me that this was unacceptable, me coming home all kinds of hours in the night, and my fiance not bringing me home. That has yet to change. I don't know what it is or what I am doing wrong but I am not very happy. He used to make me very happ. He was never the outgoing type, and even now that we have a baby, if we go out she can't. I don't know if it is because he wants to smoke and he knows he can't do that with her in the car. Or if he just thinks she is some trophy that he has to put in a case. There is so much going on between us, its just so hard to leave. I feel like if I leave I won't have anything left. He has isolated me from my whole family to the point where when I am at home, I can't stand to be there. We have planned on moving in together but I don't feel like that is a good idea. PLEASE HELP!!!

 

I can't think of one reason after reading your post as to why you would even consider  staying in this relationship.  He is verbally, emotionally and physically abusive.  Do you really think that just because you two get married all of this abuse will magically disappear?  Not a chance.

Yes, it may be hard to leave him because you two have a history together as well as a child.  Moving on is scary.  You don't want to be alone so you stay in a bad relationship.  You have to think of your child.  Do you want to bring up your child in this abusive dysfunctional relationship?  Do you want her to suffer at the hands of her parents because for whatever reason they feel obligated to live with eachother fully knowing that their relationship is troubled and abusive?  Why would you even consider bringing up your child in that kind of environment?

Take a hard look at your fiancees character, morals and values.  He's stubborn, he always has to be right (which in turn makes you wrong), he smokes weed, hasn't held a job in over 7 months, he's selfish and tremendously immature and is emotionally and physically abusive.  And you wonder why you are not happy!  This guy is no good for you or your daughter and you are absolutely 100% correct in questioning your future plans with him.  You know he is all wrong for you - listen to your gut instinct.

If you leave you have everything - your self esteem, your self worth, self respect  and a beautiful child to love and teach her life lessons.  You are her role model.  She may not understand now but in years to come she will understand and mimic your actions.  To never allow any man to abuse her, to stand up for herself, to not be afraid of dumping a guy who is abusive etc...  The way I see it, this is a win win situation for you.  A chance to start your life over without this selfish, immature, abusive guy weighing you down.  You ask what you are doing wrong - you are showing him you will take all the crap that he dishes your way and you will stay there and take it all because you love him.  In my book, that's not love.   What do you love about this guy?  Make a list of his good qualities and his bad qualities - let me know what you come up with.

 
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July 7, 2008, 7:22 am PDT

Thanks ALOT!!!

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I can't think of one reason after reading your post as to why you would even consider  staying in this relationship.  He is verbally, emotionally and physically abusive.  Do you really think that just because you two get married all of this abuse will magically disappear?  Not a chance.

Yes, it may be hard to leave him because you two have a history together as well as a child.  Moving on is scary.  You don't want to be alone so you stay in a bad relationship.  You have to think of your child.  Do you want to bring up your child in this abusive dysfunctional relationship?  Do you want her to suffer at the hands of her parents because for whatever reason they feel obligated to live with eachother fully knowing that their relationship is troubled and abusive?  Why would you even consider bringing up your child in that kind of environment?

Take a hard look at your fiancees character, morals and values.  He's stubborn, he always has to be right (which in turn makes you wrong), he smokes weed, hasn't held a job in over 7 months, he's selfish and tremendously immature and is emotionally and physically abusive.  And you wonder why you are not happy!  This guy is no good for you or your daughter and you are absolutely 100% correct in questioning your future plans with him.  You know he is all wrong for you - listen to your gut instinct.

If you leave you have everything - your self esteem, your self worth, self respect  and a beautiful child to love and teach her life lessons.  You are her role model.  She may not understand now but in years to come she will understand and mimic your actions.  To never allow any man to abuse her, to stand up for herself, to not be afraid of dumping a guy who is abusive etc...  The way I see it, this is a win win situation for you.  A chance to start your life over without this selfish, immature, abusive guy weighing you down.  You ask what you are doing wrong - you are showing him you will take all the crap that he dishes your way and you will stay there and take it all because you love him.  In my book, that's not love.   What do you love about this guy?  Make a list of his good qualities and his bad qualities - let me know what you come up with.

I really thank you for the words of wisdom. You don't know how many times I have threatened to leave and in the end, it only lasts for about 2 hours. He is very insensitive so when I say I'm leaving...he seems like he doesn't even care. It always falls back on me because I want him to care deep down inside, and it frustrates me to know that if I leave he won't even try to come after me. He says he loves me but he has a weird way of showing it. I have even caught him watching porn over 3 times...I talked to him and told him how I felt about it...then I saw an email that he wrote to one of his ex girlfriends!! I questioned him about it and he had no explaination. He always tells me that he's never cheated on me, that he would never do that to me, and yet he's been scheming gthe whole time. He has screen names for sites such as Bootytube, friend finder, and sex search. But on the sites he lies about his age and where he lives. It is still unacceptable. Lord knows I want to just end it now, but I know it will be hard. We made so many plans for our future and now none of it will happen....

 
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July 7, 2008, 10:53 am PDT

no intimacy?

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Yes we would be married with in a month or 2 if he where divorced. I think some of the reason is that he is worred about her heath. ( she is having open heart sugury this month) Sher is 44 I bel;ieve andso it's not  garenteed thing going into it. He is 40 aand is torn between helping his kidsad not making herlook like the B**** that she has become. I  talk to his mm almost eveyday, She hastold me several times that people ther are not in the least suprized that they are sepeated she was cheating on him when they liv 5 years ago. She hasa BF living with her now and they are still needing moremoney then what they bring n. I  am just kinda tierd of being the other woma here. I  kow he loves me with all his heart but  aso hear him tell her that he loves here and if he doesnt she tells the kids that are wit he that he did something mean or said something mean and they stop talking to him for weeks on end. I  think it would be best for them tomove here but that isjust my opinion.  feel like I  am being put seconda lit but he wors close to 90 hours a week at work and get's side jobs that take himaway from us more.. He comes home every nioght t us and I  am not wrried that he is seeing anyoe else It is just kinda depressing it will be 2 years augst we have been dating and still not any close to being his wife. :( I  know he wants to wait til have sex even till weare married! ( we do have a aby together but we are trying to do the right thing here) no one believes me when I say we sleep in the sme bed and I havent been touched in 9 months! they think I am full f poo!
I also think it is odd that you sleep in the same bed but are not intimate. You say that it is because you are “trying to do the right thing..” but wouldn’t the right thing be for him to get a divorce?
Back to basics- you have a decision to make. Either accept feeling like the “other woman” (legally you are the other woman) and accept that he will never be divorced from his wife, make peace with it and move on. Or, think about what your life will be like and move on without this relationship. Your partner working excessively to support his wife and her boyfriend?? Always having to tell her that he loves her to keep her happy?? Be realistic and look into the future; this will go on forever; it is up to you to do what is right for yourself as well as your child. You are the strongest female role model that your child will ever have; you are going to teach your child that it is “normal” for a man to have a wife and a girlfriend. That it is “normal” to do whatever you “must” do to make others happy; even when you are not happy.
If you can’t leave for your own sake, think of your child.
 
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July 11, 2008, 8:59 am PDT

Ready for Marriage?

 I am so ready to be married i have been with the same guy now for 8 years off and on. In 2003 he finally asked me to marry him and it is now 2008 and we are still not married. He is still married to his wife that he married in july of 2003 and we got bask together in november of 2003. i have had his divorce papers now 3 different times and they just keep coming up missing. i sent him to get the original copy of the divorce papers which where only 4 miles away and by the time that he got back home he had done lost them. i'm really starting to feel like he really doesn't want to marry me. everytime that there are other girls around he will talk to them in ways that i don't like. he always tells me that he doesn't mean anything by it and that he is just joking with them but he still does it even after i ask him to stop doing it. WHAT SHOULD I DO?
 
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July 11, 2008, 8:34 pm PDT

Do ya think?

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 I am so ready to be married i have been with the same guy now for 8 years off and on. In 2003 he finally asked me to marry him and it is now 2008 and we are still not married. He is still married to his wife that he married in july of 2003 and we got bask together in november of 2003. i have had his divorce papers now 3 different times and they just keep coming up missing. i sent him to get the original copy of the divorce papers which where only 4 miles away and by the time that he got back home he had done lost them. i'm really starting to feel like he really doesn't want to marry me. everytime that there are other girls around he will talk to them in ways that i don't like. he always tells me that he doesn't mean anything by it and that he is just joking with them but he still does it even after i ask him to stop doing it. WHAT SHOULD I DO?

Wasn't it convenient of him to ask you to marry him when he was already married!   And do you really think 3 sets of divorce papers mysteriously grew legs and walked away???   If he wanted to be divorced and free to marry you he would have climbed mountains to do so.  Obviously he's not on the same page as you...

 

His flirting with other women is another pretty good indication.  He knows it bothers you time and time again yet he continues.  Even if you two were to finally marry do you really think that behavior of his would stop?  His actions show a clear indication of his lack of respect for you and your feelings.

 

I can't tell you what you should do but after 8 years of his inability  to commit to you and his flirtatious ways I think you've got some huge red flags staring right at you, be careful what you wish for!

 
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July 14, 2008, 3:32 pm PDT

Ready for Marriage?

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i dont understand why people are so quick to move in, have children, etc BEFORE THEY ARE MARRIED. People just dont take it seriously anymore. And then people wonder why they get hurt or are treated like crap.   :::confused::: They have an old saying that goes why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free.
THATS NOT ALWAYS TRUE OR ALWAYS THE SITUATION...ME PERSONALLY DISAGREE WITH THAT COMMENT!!!
 
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