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Topic : 12/06 Teacher Troubles

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Created on : Friday, December 01, 2006, 03:22:29 pm
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Kids across the country are playing pranks and harassing teachers. Tericka, a high school science teacher who loved her job, lived in fear of her scandalous past catching up with her and getting her fired. Students eventually found out about her shocking past and the news spread throughout town like wildfire. Are other teachers taking her side, or do they feel her punishment was justified? How can she move forward? Then, Anna, an assistant principal, was harassed on the Internet when two students created a fake MySpace page alleging to be her. She says they completely attacked her character and need to be held accountable for their actions. Was this just a practical joke gone bad, or were these students out for revenge? Find out what Anna did to show these kids that some jokes just aren't funny. Could the mischief your kids get into end up costing you thousands of dollars? Talk about the show here.

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December 6, 2006, 6:54 am CST

Teacher Troubles

These people  that are putting this teacher down for her past need to sit back and think how they would feel if there past was brought to  the attention of the public and see how they would like it.

I feel what you have down in the past is in the past and it is no ones business but yours.

They need to think what this has done to her and her family.

If she is a GOOD teacher and your child has her for a teacher be thankful,Good teachers are hard to find.

 
December 6, 2006, 6:54 am CST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

Quote From: ceildh1

So this teacher did what ?  Oh yeah, made a porn movie TEN YEARS AGO, she obviously turned her life around and became a professional, a teacher no less ( one of the most THANKLESS jobs out there I think ), so she obviously went to college, and from what a couple of posters from her area had said, she was a damn good teacher, so what's the problem, I don't get it, I mean come on, she was broke and homeless, and I'm sorry desparate people do desparate things, it dosen't make them evil or bad influences.

Is she showing the movie she made to the kids ? No, and did she share the story of her sordid past with her students, God I hope not, obviously a vindictive mean spirited person found out about it, and felt the need to ruin someone's life

So tell me this, would you change Doctors if you found out that during med school your doctor was stripping to make ends meet ?  Even if he/she was the BEST in your town, delivered your babies or even saved the life of one of your loved ones, I doubt that would matter much then, or would it ?

I truly think there are some people we hold to TOO high of a moral standard, problem is those same people are constantly  looking over their shoulders, and they can't relax because they have to be sure their past dosen't catch up with them.

I mean really people, we allow pedophiles to return to their communities, around children, because they did their time and DESERVE another chance ( and knowing that chances are they will re offend) this woman has done nothing it seems but her job since that sorry episode in her life, why does she deserve less than the pedophile ?

"I don't get it, I mean come on, she was broke and homeless, and I'm sorry desparate people do desparate things, it dosen't make them evil or bad influences."

 

A person can have a good heart & still be a bad influence. "Bad influence" does not always equal "evil".

 

"So tell me this, would you change Doctors if you found out that during med school your doctor was stripping to make ends meet ?  Even if he/she was the BEST in your town, delivered your babies or even saved the life of one of your loved ones, I doubt that would matter much then, or would it ?"

 

Considering they were handling my physical health & not a moral influence on my life, no necessarily. But if I did find out they still participated in that profession - in other words, moon-lighted as a stripper - I would question their judgment & possibly would seek out a different doctor.

 

"I truly think there are some people we hold to TOO high of a moral standard, problem is those same people are constantly  looking over their shoulders, and they can't relax because they have to be sure their past dosen't catch up with them."

 

I agree.

 

"I mean really people, we allow pedophiles to return to their communities, around children, because they did their time and DESERVE another chance ( and knowing that chances are they will re offend) this woman has done nothing it seems but her job since that sorry episode in her life, why does she deserve less than the pedophile ?"

 

I think that is wrong to do & that they (the pedophile) does not deserve any kind of  "second chance" that would put them into a position of influence and/or repeating the offense.

 
December 6, 2006, 7:04 am CST

Give her the job back

  All these people are quick to judge her for something that happen be for she became a teacher.Yes she made a bad choice years ago but how many people out there has done the same thing ? She was wrong in what she done yes and the school was quick to punishing her but what about the kids that had the video and was passing it around the school did the school do anything to them? I live in a Small town and I can tell you some of the teachers in the school here don't give a rats but about the kid ,the teacher calls the kids names tell them that they are going to be in a welfare line need I say More, and when you go to the Principal and tell him about how some teaches are talking to the kids nothing is done about it . So if this teachers cares about her student  and wants to make a difference in their lives then yes she should get her job back, because we need a lot more caring teachers in the world and less that are only there for a pay check .
 
December 6, 2006, 7:08 am CST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

Quote From: aubija2

I am from the same area this teacher is from.  I do not think she should have lost her job.  She made a mistake when she was younger and changed.  I know it would cause a disturbance within the school, but I think she could have been transferred or something....not fired and condimed for her past.   I think what made it worse than it would have been in other areas is because we live in the "Bible Belt".  I feel sorry for her.  I wish her luck.  With all the publicity this situation has stirred up, I'm sure she is having a rough time.
Fo rall the BIBLE BELT people..........remembr your Bible......Let who that has not sinned cast the first stone. Also, the Bible says we are to approach the other in meekness and humility.......
 
December 6, 2006, 7:14 am CST

ok here it is in a nut shell

if this teachers past cant be left alone, my god look at all these young girls who cant have a job after they finish college, WHAT GIRLS YOU ASK ,{  GIRLS GONE WILD } thats what girls and that dosent mention the newest { BOYS GONE WILD AS WELL}
 
December 6, 2006, 7:14 am CST

KIDS HAVE MORE, INDEED!

Quote From: ceildh1

In defense of the kids these days, they have much more to deal with, usually, starting at home.

Have you ever read some of these childcare books ? "Don't trust your instincts " seems to be a big thing, trust the book, whichever one happens to appeal to you the most, so unlike even my parents in the seventies and eighties who depended on their instincts and parented  us, this days we are told that is WRONG, and the book will tell all, parents become confused about what top do and the conflicting advice and "evidence" we are innundated with is incredible.

Children are told as early as kindergarten that if Mommy or Daddy touches you in a way you don't like, tell us and we will have CPS or Social Services come see what's going on, even a teacher can get in trouble for patting a student on the back for a "Good Job".

Parents have given their power away, why I don't know, but we did.

Kids are coming from more broken homes now than EVER, Mom and Dad are BOTH working to make ends meet, it's NOT always a CHOICE whether or not to stay home now, and it makes it even harder for parents to keep a close eye on their kids, now kids being kids, especially teens, think back to that time, if you don't keep on top of things well we can a figure out where that can go.

There are kids who are going home to Mom or Dad passed out drunk or stoned on the couch, or Mom and Dad being "TOO BUSY" to talk give the kid some money and snd them on their way.

There are kids being badly abused at home, and lash out at ANY authority figure that they KNOW can't touch them.

Parents do have to take back their power with their kids, I agree, but where is the line ?  What constitutes abuse and what constitutes discipline, I've heard some saying that GROUNDING a kid is abusive, what is that all about ?

When Brittany Spears and Christina Aguleria  (?) have become our children's role models, or those horrid Bratz dolls that advocate being a fashionista instead of smarter than the boys, or how about the sports stars that have been charged for drug possetion or those rappers that glorify gun violence or the rock stars ( Marilyn Manson comes to mind) that glorify the evil in the world, we were in trouble.

Parents allowing their daughters  to go to school dressed like hookers in the name of fashion and freedom ? Give me a break. Or allowing their sons to walk around with their underwear hanging out, how about letting your teen get tattoos and body piercings whether you like it or not?

Did these parents LISTEN to that young woman last week ? She wanted to hear the word "NO" she wanted limits, children NEED them, so we as parents have to STEP UP and take our power back, I truly belive the really rotten kids are the MINORITY,lets start focussing on the MAJORITY of kids who might be just lost and confused, a lot like us parents at times.

while it's true kids have more to deal with these days, i submit it is because they are raised by their parents as pets--let  the video games  babysit,  let the schools discipline, just so the parents can do whatever their real priorities are, working to buy a new big screen tv, or new furniture and the THINGS in life, instead of the EXPERIENCES people need to be having with each other!  kids are given more before they are teenagers than most of us adults had to build over our whole lives so it is little wonder no one, parents nor kids, are growing values within their own homes.  consequentally, when their actions affect others in society, society has the right to punish with the law.
 
December 6, 2006, 7:17 am CST

THEY ARE JUST TEENAGERS.

I can well understand the embarrassment, frustration and hurt these boys caused Anna.  What they did was very wrong and a very devastating act, however the punishment that She is trying to inflict is way out of line.  I agree with you, Dr. Phil.  I believe that there are far better ways and punishments that would have the necessary results and still allow everyone to benefit.  The boys need the chance to learn from their mistakes.  That there are severe consequences to so called funny pranks.  Even try turning the tables and put them in the position of being the brunt of he same type of foolish prank.  Nothing works better than walking a mile in the other persons shoes.  I certainly hope Anna takes the time to rethink her retaliation.  She does deserve justice, on that I do agree, but I also believe there's a limit as to how much.  Best of luck to all involved.

 
December 6, 2006, 7:18 am CST

12/06 Troubled Teachers

I think that people shouldn't judge Tericka about her past but, concentrate on her contributions to her students, or should I say former students.  What she did in her early and/or mid 20's is in the past.  She has learned from her mistakes and made the conscious decision to further her education and hopefully encourage others not to go down that same dreadful road. 

 

She is a perfect example of people who made bad choices and went down bad paths in their life, yet saw a light at the end of the tunnel bright enough to choose a more positive path to take.  Now people are judging her because of something that happened many years ago.  What about men/women of the cloth or other people who've done bad things in their life and eventually turned their lives over to God?  They had terrible pasts, found God and religion, and were able to teach/preach from their experiences.  Why is Tericka different?  FORGIVENESS is also in the Bible, along with THOU SHALT NOT JUDGE.

 

As she stated on the show, she can relate to those students a lot better than any other teacher can and she was very good at her job as a teacher.  This proves vital in such young minds because they can learn from Tericka that it's not too late to turn your life around.  What she did in the past has absolutely nothing to do with her ability to teach children.  Their school system and other authorities in Kentucky where Tericka resides are sending a message that their community is an UNFORGIVING one that allow no mistakes.  Is this the way to teach impressionable young minds? 

 

People are good for saying they're Christians and this is a sin and that's a sin, and this and that is against the Word of God.  Yet, they themselves are acting against what's in the Bible by judging others for their indiscretions.  It has been this way throughout history.  At times we are all acting out against what is the Bible, but we choose our fights and maybe unconsciously become hypocrites ourselves and hide behind our faith and what we translate to be true when it benefits us.   If we were all judged on our pasts and were found out by our employers, there would be a lot of out of work people.  Moral of this message, no one is perfect, not even those who think they are.

 
December 6, 2006, 7:19 am CST

TOUCHE'!

Quote From: afraid

as i havent seen the show as of yet but as far as the kids posting on my space as someone they wernt, wow i do think the identy theft laws should take up this matter and put there little asses behind bars as a example for others to see and learn by, after all that was in fact identy theft, the feds need to take this matter up! if your old enoughj to do the crime then your old enough to do the time end of story!<>
i wholeheartedly agree!  this is a blatant crime.  we punish kids who kill people and these kids killed this teachers identity!  furthermore, kids are even more tech-savvy than most adults and damn well KNEW what they were doing was illegal--they just didn't count on getting caught!
 
December 6, 2006, 7:22 am CST

Maybe too harsh

The teacher that made a mistake in her past did just that...she made a mistake.  We are all human beings and we all make mistakes.  She should not be punished for the rest of her life because of something foolish she did years ago. 

 

For the educator who is suing students in her school for creating a fake myspace page, I know can imagine how you are feeling.  I am a teacher for a school district in Michigan and something similar to your situation happened to one of my colleague.  She was devasted.  However, she decided that keeping the exposure of this messy situation within the school district was a better idea.  I guess what I want the educator to think about is when she was young.  Was there anything that you did that was wrong?  Most of us do things that are parents would not approve of when we are younger.  We do things when we are young because we have not reached the maturity level that lets us know that there are things we do that can have serious and long lasting consequences.  For some reason when we are young we don't think about long term consequences as much as we should.  I think that you should seriously consider dropping the charges against the students and consider an alternate punishment.  Empathize with the parents.  This could be you.  Your child could do something that you don't approve of when they are young, but that does not mean that you have failed as a parent...it just means that your child is a human being.

 
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