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Topic : 07/03 Big Love

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Created on : Friday, January 26, 2007, 01:55:18 pm
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(Original Air Date: 1/31/07) The media bombards the public with images of stick-thin bodies, but not all men prefer these types of women. Self-proclaimed "Chubby Chasers" love their women curvy, round and voluptuous. Clayton says he likes the rolls on his wife, Cheryl's, 300-pound body, and he loves to watch her butt jiggle. Cheryl says that she wants to lose weight but fears that if she does, she might also lose her marriage. Does Clayton sabotage Cheryl to keep her overweight? Dr. Phil has a plan to get them both what they want. Then, Phillip says he prefers to date women who are at least 250 pounds. His twin brother, Paul, says he's disgusted by the plus-size women, and his brother is embarrassing the family. He even makes fun of Phillip's dates when he brings one home, calling her fat and stinky. Will these brothers ever be able to find a middle ground? And, go inside a nightclub that caters to big women and men who can't get enough of them! Talk about the show here.

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July 3, 2007, 3:53 pm PDT

AMEN!

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I have been single since 2001. I am no longer the 110 pound chickie I was before my son was born almost 13 years ago but I am the same person INSIDE. However it is IMPOSSIBLE to find anyone who will even consider going out with a plus sized woman. I have subscribed to EVERY dating website and all I got was BROKE. Every white American male wants "slim", "average", "toned", "athletic".  NONE SAY "I want a plus sized woman". NONE!!!!!!  And when I wink or send an icebreaker to a guy, the response is either NO RESPONSE, or a resounding "NO THANK YOU". Lord knows these guys are not all toned, buff, weightlifters with perfect bodies. Being 48, I am looking at guys roughly my own age and let me tell you, there are few "prizes" out there yet THEY want "arm candy" and fat women don't fit that bill. Even Dr. Phil's beloved match.com couldn't help me. It's not so much our weight as it's about teaching men that it's not always all about how a person looks. Why do men feel they deserve only beautiful, thin women? I have seen the same faces on these website for years!!! Don't they know if they just look at the person as a whole, they might actually find a loyal, loving, and beautiful woman?

I will be having gastric bypass (lapband) in the next couple of months because as 223 pounds with hypertension, I feel it is in my best interest health-wise, but let me tell you, it anyone who "dismissed" me before the weightloss tries to write to me after I lose the weight, they are going to get an earfull from me. "I wasn't good enough for you when I was fat? but now I am that I'm thin?. NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  there are plus sized guys outh there who want teeny tiny women. Who do they think they are? Maybe Dr. Phil needs to work on the men and their way of thinking and judging a person instead of making the women feel that they are the problem.

 As a BBW about the same size. I feel I am very shapely and sexy but I totally agree with you. I have tried ALL the dating sites and I have found the same things you have. I'm looking for a man who wants more than just sex. I want somewho can carry his end of an intellegent conversation and who enjoys some of the same interest. I was married to a man who loved BBW however when I lose almost 50 lbs ...he ultimately left me for a 300 lb. women. I'm just tired...so I've decided to enjoy my own company and God willing one day down the road I will find that special man.
 
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July 3, 2007, 3:57 pm PDT

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Quote From: hourglass

My name is Jenn and I will be on this show. You will see me dancing and being interviewed in the black and pink dress from hourglassfashions.com and I was partying at Club Bounce in Long Beach.  I just found out the show was going to air on Wednesday and I'm so nervous about being on tv. I can't believe I announced my weight on national television :) At least it was after losing 70 pounds LOL I have to say that the Dr. Phil crew is so nice and so easy to talk to.  If you have any questions for me, my email address is in my profile. 

 

Have a great week everyone!

 

XOXO

Jenn

 Hi Jen,
 I am a big beautiful woman too! I am so proud of all of us lately! We are not staying quiet anymore! I know that I am a beautiful, healthy, loving and caring woman. I have gained such self-confidence in the past two years that it is incredible! That is all that we need! The media has made us so fearful, ashamed, and scared! I love to wear the sexy clothes, I know that there are some parts of me that are incredibly beautiful but even the clothing manufacturers love to hide them in "granny" clothes. At least that seems to be the case here in Canada! I am tired of being judged by my size and that people think I can't do anything!Well think again honey!!! I have so much more to give and I am healthier than a lot of my "skinny" friends. I now am able to see the "shallow" men! Remember in the rennaisance paintings the women were all large? Were we not beautiful then and those paintings are still loved and admired all over the world.So should we be! We have bigger hearts and bigger shoulders to take the brunt but we still have feelings just like the rest . I wish I knew here in Canada where the men are that like bigger women. Then I don't have top waste my time and feel like I'm  in "Shallow Hal".

 
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July 3, 2007, 4:02 pm PDT

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When I watched this episode it broke my heart.  You know especially the man whose twin brother  was so mean to him and the women he dates.  This is totally unacceptable behavior.  I was further intrigued when Dr. Phil mentioned his sisters and this man said that since they were family it was okay and you shouldn't treat them bad and make fun of them.  Realize this young man that woman that you are making fun of is part of a family.  She is somebodies daughter, somebodies sister, somebodies niece, somebodies grandaughter,  and possible somebodies mother.  Think about that the next time you are saying something totally unacceptable.  Look at your mother or sisters and ask if you would want someone to treat them this way. 

And on another point while still treating people with kindness obesity is killing our nation,  This is coming from a severly obesed woman who has struggled with her weight for years.  Who is trying to teach her children better exercise and eating habits.  I am currently waiting on my insurance company to okay paying for lap band  surgery.  You see while incorporating exercise into my life I injured myself and I probably wouldn't have injured myself if I had not damaged my joints by being severly obesed all of my life.  Now vigorous exercise is very painful.  So now I am having to possibly result in surgery.  I loved exercising I finally found something fun I loved doing and now I cant do it.  Please if you are overweight try and get fit.  And consult your Dr a good one will want to help you.  Thank you.  Paula Richard

 
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July 3, 2007, 4:08 pm PDT

07/03 Big Love

Quote From: unknowingly

Yeah, Most Of The Time You Turn And You See SomeOne That's Attractive And You Know Nothing About Them And Most Of Us Has Though About That And Agrees, We're Alll Superficial At Times And Some Are More Open About The Topic Then Others, But You Should Just Keep The Opinon To Yourself Or Write It In A Diary, But The Show 'Bickering Brothers' When Dr.Phil Said Something Like 'Has Anyone Said Something Rude Towards You?' And The Brother Of Phillps Said 'Yes, It Kinda Hurted' Then He Basically Told The Point Of The Whole Show.

 

To: Phillps Brother

      Theres Many Anorexic Models And Women Out There, And To Them, You're Fat So What Are You going To Do About It? Become A Walking Stick? No.

Its Bad Being Obese And Also Bad Being Anorexic And Its Also Horrible To Become A Walking Stick But Everyone Has A Different Opinon Of Healthy Shape And Sizes.

 

"We're All Different Shape And Sizes And We're All Beautiful"

+ We ALL Have Different Metabalism.

Ya, your metabolism should determine your food consumption!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you're fat you are eating too much and moving too little!!!

Metabolism can be changed through EXERCISE!!!!!!!
 
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July 3, 2007, 4:08 pm PDT

lets get real...!!

fat is unhealthy and obviously noticeable in todays society...the insecurity of these people are incredible..they hide from reallity. most people accept fat people but dont condone or agree with it..i would not be rude but would not be attracted as it is a sign of unhealthy choices...
 
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July 3, 2007, 4:13 pm PDT

schwic's disillusioned

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 being thin is a magic ticket to perfect health land.

Obesity, on the other hand,  will take you down the road to some very predictable and preventable troubles, as will some other stupid, dangerous  habit like smoking.

I can't find any fault with the dietary choices of your friends, I wonder what YOU think is wrong with it?  

Why don't you quit complaining about being overlooked for your obesity,  and just live a moderate lifestyle?  Soda is just a drink, water is just as good.   Who needs to eat in the evening?  Eat a healthy dinner and call it a day.   Eat a breakfast, but pick a healthier one,  like a bowl of oatbran with raspberries or a serving  of greek yogurt with blueberries...either one of which will feed and sustain you and regulate your blood sugar for hours?

Why do you refuse to eat a healthy diet?
 Do you really think that it all comes down to a healthy diet alone? You are very disillusioned my friend! I work 12 hr shifts, 2 weeks days and 2 weeks of nights. Your body doesn't change over that easily or readily! While you are sleeping in bed I am running my butt off taking care of possibly your loved one! You know the one that you don't have time to stay the night with because your life is more important that the end of theirs! I am unable to get regular times to eat or even to be able to have the "healthy things" to eat that you are preaching about! I have lost weight and am still trying but it is not so easy! I am dead tired at the end of my shift but I still have to take care of my 2 boys since there is no-one else to help with that! My heart is bigger and more confident, and more loving than you could ever imagine! I am proud of my accomplishments and I am comfortable with myself are you? I am healthier than most of my "skinny" friends and I have more stamina for life and all it has to offer. Next time you look in the mirror see your own faults! It may not be weight but it could be an ugly personality that looks back at you. I can and am trying to fix my image can You?

 
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July 3, 2007, 4:13 pm PDT

Race?

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Its been a while since I posted but when I saw the preview for this upcoming show I had to come read about it & see what was being said. I think its awesome that Clayton loves his wife the way she is, rolls & all! I think this world needs more men like him & just more people like him in general.... meaning that more men & people need to respect & appreciate us bigger women. But I do think that if Cheryl wants to lose weight for health reasons and/or just to feel better about herself, then she should & Clayton should support her & love her no matter what she decides or how much weight she loses. I hope they come to an understanding because something like this shouldn't be the 'thing' that comes between a couple.

 

Now for the issue with Phillip & his brother Paul, I give Phillip major kudos his love & admiration of bigger women. As a big woman myself, I know what it's like to be teased, made fun of & to just feel lower than dirt... So to know that there ARE men out there who admire plus sized women & who also just believe that appearance isn't everything, is great & very good to know. And to Paul (and people like him), plus sized women are NOT disgusting! What IS disgusting is the kind of attitude you have towards them & towards anyone you feel isn't attractive. Plus sized women (and men) are people too, people with lives & feelings & people who should be treated with RESPECT!  Being attracted to, admiring & loving big women (and big men) isn't something that people should be embarrassed and/or ashamed about! So your brother (Phillip) loves plus sized women, SO WHAT! THAT'S WHAT HE LIKES! Everyone has their preferences about what they like & dislike! You don't have to like what someone else's preferences are, but you should very well RESPECT them! YOU (Paul & people like you) are the ones that should be embarrassed & ashamed of yourselves!

 

LD, a plus sized woman who is SICK of other's degrading the plus sized population!

 

 

     If someone showed that much hatred because of Pauls color/race it would never be tolerated.
 

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July 3, 2007, 4:18 pm PDT

Refreshing

I really found this show refreshing. I'm so sick of everywhere I look seeing an ad telling me to lose weight and the skinner the better. I thought these men were incredibly sweet and honest. They arn't embarassed by the fact that they like big women. I don't like being judged constantly by my weight. I've had two 10 lbs children and the judgement begins the day you leave that hospital. I'm a very thin women now and my husband would prefer that I gain some weight but I'm just so worried about the judgement I'd get from the rest of the world. We should all remember that 60 years ago a size 12 was considered the perfect size.
 
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July 3, 2007, 4:24 pm PDT

07/03 Big Love

I am a big girl..always have been. Even though I have lost 4 sizes...I still am, inside a very big girl.  I feel that EVERY person has a health problem. size doesn't matter. It could be the fact that you eat too much, diabetes, the struggle to be thin....everything. Every person has a problem. whether you can see it or not. I also say that everyone is entitled to their personal preference and no one should judge that. Unless you are supporting and caring for and being the sole provider for and know for a fact that a personal choice is going to be a life or death question...no one has the right to say anything about personal preference. I know that some people have personal issues that restrict what they are willing to love...but that is their problem. NOT MINE. I believe that if someone doesn't like how I look...they have the right to turn around and look the other way. My struggle is finding a comfortable place inside myself and the outside will follow. Be it remaining a big girl or not....I am who I am.  No one can change me...they can guide me and voice their opinion it is up to me how I process it.   So for those whose preference is what it is...great...it is your choice. that is one thing only you can decide...for you.
 
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July 3, 2007, 4:24 pm PDT

07/03 Big Love

Quote From: housewife52

Have we really "evolved to prefer mates with certain characteristics that indicate health and youth and access to resources that maintain health-men in particular..".etc.? Is this a subconcious thing?
According to a recently released news article, having children is not considered as high of a priority in a fulfilling marriage.  Actually, in this 1990 study, which I can't imagine has change much for the better (in my opinion) over the past 17 years, children ranked 3rd in the priority list.  If this is evolution, then we just might be extinct in the not so distant future.  Search for, "Key to a good marriage?  Share housework", by David Crary AP National Writer Sun July 1st.

Also, consider that the choosing of a mate according to "fitness", was at one time vital in having a dozen or so offspring.  This certainly isn't the case of modern society, where the average family consists of less than 2 children on the national average. 

As a 260lb woman at 5'8" tall, I am battling the same insecurities in my life as a heavier woman, as I did when I was wearing a size 7.  In my case, weight is not the root cause of my feelings of inferiority, but my upbringing.  Sure, I would like to lose weight, but not at the risk of my health, which is a reasonable concern that doesn't get discussed.  The toxins that we are exposed to in our environments, are stored in our fat cells, which are released and circulating throughout our bodies during any weightloss without proper understanding about antioxidants and losing the weight gradually. 

My late husband of over 18 years, loved me with every fiber of his being, even though the weight accumulated with each baby.  My new husband loves me the same way.  Ladies, there is someone out there for you! 

KUDOS to the husband and wife who braved being on the air!!  Loving one's spouse, commitment, as well as being IN LOVE, are the two greatest assets to help any couple overcome whatever comes their way.  If/when they lose the weight TOGETHER, they will be even that much closer by their shared journey. 
 
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