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Topic : 07/27 Adoptions Scams, Part 2

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Created on : Thursday, February 15, 2007, 04:45:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/23) The story of Marie, Crissy and Jen continues. These three potential adoptive mothers were scammed by Melissa, a woman who claimed to be pregnant with a child meant for them. When the baby turned out to be a fraud, they say they and several others were left with nothing but a handful of lies and a nursery full of heartache. Melissa agreed to meet Crissy face to face, but can Dr. Phil convince her to give the same satisfaction to her other two accusers? Follow what happens when Melissa succumbs to an emotional meltdown. Plus, having been badly burned in their efforts to adopt, what’s next for Marie, Crissy and Jen? Can they ever build enough trust to enter the adoption arena again? Hear what Dr. Phil thinks they should do. Plus, find out what happened to another couple desperate to adopt after the Dr. Phil show gave their efforts a little boost. Join the discussion!

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February 23, 2007, 12:10 pm PST

I agree with you!

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woah, are you serious?  Adoption doesn't guarantee that this will happen? poverty is NEVER a reason to have to surrender your flesh and blood to strangers.   Money doesn't make you a good parent!! Are you kidding me? You've fallend for the adoption propoganda too. There there its okay, take a deep breath you're a victim of a scam as well, but this time its been done by the adoption industry.     Adoption does NOT guarantee the child will be raised in a two parent family. It does NOT guarantee that the child will be raised out of poverty, and get to play after school sports.   That is the most ridiculous reason I have heard today to surrender your child. UNBELIEVABLE.
I very much agree with you.  Somewhere along the way  people in this country have come to equate money with happiness.  It just isn't so.  I come from a very poor but happy family.  There were 6 children with only 9 years between the oldest and youngest.  All of us are happy and successful.  I often see kids from affluent families with all kinds of problems.  Poverty is never a reason to surrender your kids!  Affluent people get divorced and do drugs.  Often their kids are too stressed by too many activities and pressures.  We don't let our kids be kids anymore.  I find this especially true of affluent parents.  Their kids can't get dirty, can't play outside, must be in so many after school activities.  Jeez!  Let them have unstructured play sans TV, videos, PCs, and cell phones.  Does wonders for the imagination.
 
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February 23, 2007, 12:20 pm PST

02/23 Adoptions Scams, Part 2

What this girl did is unforgivable. My husband and I are in the process of adopting a child from the U.S to bring home and love and care for in Canada and watching this how yesterday made me physically ill.  What she did was the same as someone being told they have an incurable and unexplainable disease (my husband and i both have no possibility of conceiving childrenwith no medical explanation able to be given) and then being presented with a solution- only to find out the whole thing was nothing more than a complete lie. I know I have a personal side to this but I think she should somehow be punished but more than that she needs SERIOUS psychological assistance to help her REMEMBER and understand 'why her brain works the way it does'- which by the way is a complete cowardly cop out.

 
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February 23, 2007, 12:22 pm PST

I can't imagine this

I'm watching the show right now and I think she lies  when she said that she is sorry.  She is not honnest with them and herself. 

 

 

What do you think ?

 
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February 23, 2007, 12:22 pm PST

Adoption Scam

 There is something here that doesn't seem to be addressed.  That is these three women should have investigated the woman who was offering them a child.  Get real people there are all kinds of people on the internet. 

Even Dr. Phil hired a investigator to get to the bottom of this situation.  So why didn't these three women do the same before they invested time, money, mental feelings, and connections with this girl?

I feel bad for these three women who put themselves out there, but they should have gotten this investigated before they invested anything of themselves into adopting a baby.
 
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February 23, 2007, 12:23 pm PST

FBI.com

Look under their homepage at FBI.com and then cyber crime and there is some stuff on adoption scams online. It is NOT considered lightly from the sounds of it at ALL. I googled adoption scams online and found more than a few recent cases in Florida, Indiana, Phila delphia. Some of the sentences were 5 yrs. for one mother/daughter team. I bet these women (on the show)have already had many offers from people for babies to join their families . That is so good.
 
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February 23, 2007, 12:26 pm PST

Melissa! Please!

I'm watching Part 2 now.   It is STILL all about her.   I'm going to go PUKE!!!   This girl is unreal !!! 

 

I hope the FBI or someone prosecutes her, and she goes to jail and gets time to really think about what she's done!!

 
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February 23, 2007, 12:29 pm PST

did anyone else notice??

When dr. phil talked about Jen Melissa said she couldn't remember, but that her story was so simular to Marie's. I think she was trying to imply that Jen was lying. She said "it's just weird that they were so simular"...like she's trying to make Jen look bad when she is the conn artist. I think she should be convicted...that is the worste thing you could do to tell someone they can have your baby and totally lie...this make me sick!
 
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February 23, 2007, 12:31 pm PST

02/23 Adoptions Scams, Part 2

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I watched this show and I got really sad and angry.  I agree that Melissa should be punished and what she did is very wrong.  Now, here is what angers me.  Everyone is talking about these poor women not getting their babies.  If these women really wanted to be mothers and wanted babies we have thousands sitting in foster homes wishing to be adopted.  We too went through the adoption process.  We are a white professional upper middle class couple.  Our first opportunity for a child was a seven month old African American little boy.  We were told he could possibly have MS, and other problems.  All it took was this baby smiling at me on time and I knew this was my son.  We are very fortunate, he is five now and smart, healthy and happy.  So, the point being if you really want to be a parent, there are lots of children waiting.  They may not have white skin, blond hair and blue eyes, but I guarantee they will give you more than you can ever give them.  So yes I find it hard to feel sorry for these women when the children who aren't being adopted are the ones who should be seen as the real victims.
um...they didnt adopt because they were so heart broken...I would do the same...afraid to get scammed again! I get what you are saying but you are doggin on them for being hurt?? what?
 
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February 23, 2007, 12:35 pm PST

A real Birthmother here...

As a birthmother, the woman on this show absolutely disgusts me. It is women like this that make Adoptive Parents fear the real birthmothers out there. It is women like this that made my child's adoptive parents fear that it might be a scam or that I would break their hearts. Giving your child up for adoption when you know in your heart you can't do right by them is the most noble and courageous thing a parent can do and she is sullying the my good name and every other birthmother out there. The Adoption Triangle is a sacred thing, it is based on absolute trust on the part of all the parties involved. This woman should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. And while I applaud the Dr. Phil show for not only having these programs and allowing these women who were scammed to voice their opinion, they should have had some real birthmothers on too, to show the this disgusting woman what it's really like and how she's making a joke out of something so personal. I wasn't right for years after I gave my daughter away. I cried myself to sleep every night for 6 months after my daughter was born. I still cry on her birthday every year because I miss her so much, and this woman is making a joke out of it. It's disgusting.

 

To whoever it is that said that poverty is no reason to give your child up for adoption...I honestly don't think you can judge a person in this situation unless you have walked in their shoes. In my case I was a teenager, in an abusive home, extremely poor, and at odds with the child's family. It was the best thing I could do for her to give her up for adoption. Please don't pass judgement on these women, no one can say what they would do faced with odds like that. Faced with the odds of not being able to feed or cloth your child properly. True, poor families find a way to do it every day, but think if you were facing those odds and a scared teenager with no family support, and a lot of these girls don't have family support, I didn't. It's not fair to judge unless you've been there, that's all I'm saying.

 

 
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February 23, 2007, 12:43 pm PST

no conscience

Those gals kept asking Michelle "why"  "how could she"       Don't people realize that there are "people" without a conscience?     Michelle don't care that she hurts people.  She just don't think like those nice people do. 

 

There are sub humans in this world.     Those poor women are nice people that cannot relate to these monsters. 

 

People that kill for fun, or hurt people get a feeling of being God. 

 

Remember satan said, "you shall be like God"?     well that's what some people want they want to be like God.

 

Michelle don't care, she is so miserable herself, she gets her high by making others miserable. 

 

They sit there in tears trying to understand her, they can't.   Don't give her any more of your time gals, pity her and get on with your lives.  

 
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