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Topic : 08/16 Family Drama

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Created on : Friday, April 20, 2007, 02:35:21 pm
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(Original Air Date: 04/23/07) No matter how much we try to avoid it, conflict is a part of life. But what happens when an entire family points the finger at one person as the source of the chaos? Carrie’s family calls her a drama queen who tries to destroy their relationships. Her sister, Miranda, says Carrie called their mother trash and wants their father to divorce her. Her brother, Meikle, says Carrie is upset because she didn’t approve of his fiancée and now refuses to attend his wedding. Carrie admits that she can be attracted to conflict, but says she feels isolated by her family. Then, Carrie’s parents, LaRon and Susan, confront her about trying to break up their marriage. Carrie hasn’t spoken to her mom in over a month, and they face off onstage. Plus, Carrie reveals a shocking secret that she’s kept from her family for years. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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April 24, 2007, 6:53 pm PDT

That is hilarious!

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Her mom has held on to issues just as trivial as Carrie's for example Eminem concerts and rude telephone conversations.   Look, the truth is, teenage girls are mean. I  was mean my sissy's were mean we just were.  We grew up and grew out of it and became fairly nice adults.  Its not forever just a few tumultuous hormone induced years. Certainly not awful enough to melt into a puddle over yrs later. I wouldn't do anything but laugh if my daughter brought up emails I looked through in highschool at 25 yrs old. Of course Carrie's mom bursts in to tears and starts screaming but I have apologized OVER AND OVER -insert bohoo'd mumbles here_______

OK heres the deal, My daughter is mentally challenged shes 8 but sustained severe brain damage as a baby.  She is absolutely in love with Dr. Phil, hes very expressive with his voice and face and it keeps her attention.  We watch it together just about every day.  Everytime someone in that family started crying or whining Sarah my daughter burst out laughing.  As usual, I think her response is right on.

Sometimes babes, even challenged ones, have more sense than the rest of us.  But, I , like her, felt something was just skewed with everybody, & I do mean eveyrbody.  Tell you daughter Hi--, "Hi Sarah!" , &, of course, I think Dr. PHil is pretty good, too, obviously. 
 
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April 24, 2007, 7:42 pm PDT

carrie to me seems he most stable

Carrie to me seem the most stable.The oldest sister seems to be the most unstable .The father seems to be a protector of Carrie, which he should, but he seems more scared of the other siblings, He needs to be more powerful. The son really don't want nothing to do with the situation.I think the mother is the most devises of all. You can tell she pits the siblings against each other especially Carrie. 
 
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April 24, 2007, 7:58 pm PDT

Mama

I think the mother is the catalyst in creating the drama and chaos in the family. I sensed the father isn't strong in leading, which surprised me given his Mormon background.

 

Isn't it obvious that Carrie has an eating disorder because she doesn't feel in control of her life?

My heart goes out to her. GO DR PHIL! Thank you for supporting her and not allowing the family demonize her as the villain.

 
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April 24, 2007, 8:31 pm PDT

Family Drama-About Carrie...

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I so agree with you, its not even funny. Just because I always could prove my point of view, everybody hated me. My mom simply refused to register my youngest brother in the local high school of the neighborhood weve just moved in to. She was fine if he would spend at least 30 minutes one-way everyday to go to his old school. So, when I actually took some time off from my work and went with my brother for registration, everybody acted like it was my responsibly from the beginning. I do believe that I am the strongest member of my large family and thats where my problems all come from. Your idea for Carrie to get away is wonderful. It works big time. Good thinking.  

  Carrie and her family are indeed in need of help.But can you seriously believe that "SHE",is the victim?The whole family are victims,but Carrie uses all this to her advantage.I watched the show and immediately knew that she would have it come off to her benefit.Why did she only tell her Father that she had an eating disorder?He isn't much better than her,letting a child use you like that.The whole family lives off of the drama that each one of them causes.

  But she is a piece of work.She knew that when she came on the show she would make it all about her.She lives for it,she thrives from it and the award goes to........Wonder if she thought about a career in movies? I just hope the whole family gets the help each of them deserves and really,really need....Don't even get me started on the Mother....she gets an award too....It's just sad that these people use each other and never truly know the meaning of "FAMILY"....

 
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April 24, 2007, 8:37 pm PDT

Also Misinformed

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I was a Mormon too and Yes, having a choice between two positive outcomes is great, but choice between "Eternal Life" and "Outer Darkness" or damnation is not real free agency or choice. These are the choices given to the members of the Mormon church as they gain their "testimony" or belief in the religion. Maybe what is best for people is to be able to choose their faith or lack of and have that be OK and not offer judgement against them because of it.

I've seen parents that have completely cut off their children from the family if they chose to not be active in the church. To the members, the Church is the center of everything and is the most important thing in their lives, even if it breaks up families.

 
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April 24, 2007, 8:39 pm PDT

I agree with you totally...

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I haven't read a lot of the posts, as I'm in a flood zone and the electricity has recently been restored (yesterday), but from what I saw yesterday, Carrie is a complete and total bitch, and I couldn't believe Dr. Phil bought into her lies. She is totally manipulative, as witness her stating that her father should get rid of her mother. I think she should be cut off, because she causes nothing but pain, and she obviously enjoys it.
 You took the words right out of my mouth...THANK YOU !!!!!!! Carrie is so self-centered it isn't funny. She knows exactly what she is doing to her family and she doesn't care,as long as "SHE",isn't taken out of the spot light.I truly hope she gets help and FAST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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April 24, 2007, 9:12 pm PDT

misinformed

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I was a Mormon too and Yes, having a choice between two positive outcomes is great, but choice between "Eternal Life" and "Outer Darkness" or damnation is not real free agency or choice. These are the choices given to the members of the Mormon church as they gain their "testimony" or belief in the religion. Maybe what is best for people is to be able to choose their faith or lack of and have that be OK and not offer judgement against them because of it.

I've seen parents that have completely cut off their children from the family if they chose to not be active in the church. To the members, the Church is the center of everything and is the most important thing in their lives, even if it breaks up families.

You too are confused concerning the Mormon religion.  The FAMILY is the center of everything, the church is a support system, or safety net to guide families.  If a Mormon family misinterprets or misrepresents those guidelines, it is their personal misunderstanding or misinterpretation.  HOW they CHOOSE to initiate or teach or follow those guidelines is uniqe to every family.  Some CHOOSE and practice SUCCESSFUL methods and others, like Carrie's family are a mess, just like families of other faiths or no faith.  Whether your final destination is "Heaven" or "Hell" or "Eternal Life" or "Outer Darkness"  (as you put it) is still a matter of choice.  It's the ACTIONS you choose, and your choice of faith or a plan that get you wherever you end up. 

Happy or miserable,  religion or none, it's always a matter of choice.  Have you read "The Hiding Place" by Corrie Ten Boom?  or any of the survival stories of World War II  prisoners?  Even though they were suffering the most horrendous things, they still had one choice, and that was their attitude.  None of the experiences that I have read had a "victim" attitude.  They certainly had plenty of people to blame!!!  But their ultimate survival depended on their choice to keep living.

 

Carrie and her family and others in chaos can still choose to keep living.  But they must make the choice. It won't matter how much professional, medical, religious or other help they get, it won't help them unless they choose to change.  I think that all anyone can do is offer them the opportunities, you know, you can take the horse to water, but you can't make it drink.  You can pour the water on it, you can sink it to the bottom of the barrel, but it will still die of thirst!!! While it's blaming the rider for some problem with the water.

 

 

 
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April 25, 2007, 12:31 am PDT

04/23 Family Drama

I wonder if Dr. Phil didn't miss something here-- I believe Carrie might be bi-polar, chemically imbalanced or at least terribly self-absorbed.

 

What hit home to me was that at the end of the show everyone in the family was crying (normal response!)  except Carrie who sat smugly with her Daddy's arm around her (instead of  around his wife, who was crying). Somethng wrong with this picture.

 

I think Carrie IS the problem here but I also think her father is wrong in ever listening to her criticize his wife and the rest of the family... She is manipulating him and he is letting her do it.

 
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April 25, 2007, 12:49 am PDT

04/23 Family Drama

Wow!   Run, Kelly!   There is drama here--lots of it.     Church people seem to thrive on histrionics.    It's built in to the storyline.      In reality, Christ and Young, or whomever the leaders may be all preach love for one another, but ultimately, the purity of love can downgrade quickly to judging right and wrong (of others, not self) , then to manipulative controlling behavior and the drama that goes along with control issues, which are major church-y themes.    Control the masses with judgement.            Not one person that I saw in this family is without extreme histrionic (drama) destructive behavior.      If you want to make a change, cut the crap, go back to spiritual love of self and others.   Simply drop your storylines, and practice this:  "Want more for others than you want for yourself".      A wise person once said that it is amazing how little it takes to get by.     Start now.   Peace.
 
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April 25, 2007, 1:51 am PDT

Carrie's "Problem"

The "Carrie Drama" goes on.  What doesn't compute for me is the fact that her Dad is the only one she could talk to but she doesn't tell him about her "problem" until 4-5 weeks before the show.  And she has had this problem for 5 years?  No way!  I think this was a way to really get the family to fall at her feet and grovel for forgiveness in the way they treated her.  It is like...see!  I really have a problem all brought on by each family member and now you should all feel really bad!  She has an attention deficit problem.  When the attention isn't on her, she gets the attention back, good or bad.

With the mood swings, it sounds more like diet pills and not looking at the family when they were on stage was the only way she could keep the glee in her eyes from being seen by them.   

 
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