Topic : 08/27 Bully Dads

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(Original Air Date: 05/02/07) They threaten, scream, intimidate and even bite. They’re not tantrum-throwing kids … they’re bullying dads! Shannon has only been married for three months but says she’s ready for a divorce. She says her husband, Kevin, calls her kids “fat,” “lazy” and “losers,” and has physically assaulted her son. She even called the police on him three weeks before their recent wedding. Kevin says he feels like he’s being pushed to his breaking point and intimidates his stepchildren because he is not allowed to punish them. To find out what was going on, Dr. Phil set up cameras in the couple’s home. You won’t believe what they reveal! Can Shannon and Kevin save this marriage, or was it doomed from the start? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 29, 2007, 9:44 am PDT

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Of course I watched this episode, I have read very little of the comments posted, but I'm really amazed in what I have read that I have seen very little mention of the innocent children that are living in this mess from birth...They do not have choices, the adults do. I could care less about the immature adults here. I want to know what happened to the kids. Are they still in this environment. I started reading the boards and like I said I was amazed. Their are actual arguments on who is right and wrong in this one. I was abused and hid it and luckily there were no children, yes I got out and there will never be another person lay one finger on me. All I really posted on this board is because I want to know where the children are and if they are out of this mess. I'm sure Dr. Phil took his obligation to the authorities. I'm just wondering. If anyone can tell me about the children, I would love to know they are safe...

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August 25, 2007, 4:41 am PDT

Run and don't look back!

 I have been married 26 years to a bully and it does not change. My children grew up being intimidated and bullied and we are all paying the price for my mistake of staying with him. My daughter dropped out of high school and left home. She has struggled with anxiety and depression. My son who  is 21 and still at home has dropped out of college and turned to drugs to ease the pain of living in hell. Every day of my life I regret not leaving and saving my children from this monster. Go while you still have your children and your self respect. You will not regret it!
 
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August 25, 2007, 5:40 am PDT

There was a follow-up on this show.

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Of course I watched this episode, I have read very little of the comments posted, but I'm really amazed in what I have read that I have seen very little mention of the innocent children that are living in this mess from birth...They do not have choices, the adults do. I could care less about the immature adults here. I want to know what happened to the kids. Are they still in this environment. I started reading the boards and like I said I was amazed. Their are actual arguments on who is right and wrong in this one. I was abused and hid it and luckily there were no children, yes I got out and there will never be another person lay one finger on me. All I really posted on this board is because I want to know where the children are and if they are out of this mess. I'm sure Dr. Phil took his obligation to the authorities. I'm just wondering. If anyone can tell me about the children, I would love to know they are safe...

Lots of Love

DJones

You'll be happy to know that the dad saw the light and is doing better. Also the mom realizes that she needs to change some of her behaviors also. It was so good to see that follow-up.
 

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August 25, 2007, 6:53 am PDT

I do not understand why she would stay.

I do not understand why she married him in the first place. Why is she staying, abuse is abuse whether it is contrived or just a man being a bully. Those children will not forget and even if he never did it again(which is not happening) they will always remember and they will goad him about it. People do not deserve that sort of treatment. If the children have problems they need counseling. My friend married a man "anyway" because it was her third time around and he was cute and her father came to her wedding. whatever.. she was a fool. This man has a record as a child sex offender (she says he is not guilty) her son does not get along with him, he never brings enough money home to help but loves to spend money and look like a big shot. HE NEEDS TO GO.. JUST LIKE THIS BULLY.

 
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August 25, 2007, 9:48 am PDT

Doctor Phil Show

Bully Dads Doctor Phil. Doctor Phil I am glad that you are not a Bully Dads at all. See you on Monday August 27, 2007 Sincerley Your Russell Vlaanderen.-----------------------------------------
 
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August 25, 2007, 11:54 am PDT

08/27 Bully Dads

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In America there is a common misconception that children runaway from home because they are societal delinquents who want to be free of authority. The media depicts homeless and street kids as "rebels without a cause", as children who have no regard for society, who have no dreams and no aspirations for life but to get high.  

 

We know this portrayal of homeless and street kids to be false. In fact we know that 90% of children who run away have encountered mental, physical, emotional, and/ or sexual abuse. No child wants to live on the streets. No child wants to have to beg, steal, sell drugs, and/ or themselves just to survive.

 

More than half of the children on the streets are still under the age of 15.  Unable to legally work, these kids get involved in criminal activity just to survive.  Based on current estimates, there are more than one and a half million children, teenagers and young adults trying to survive on the U.S. streets today.  Children now make up 27 percent of the fastest growing segment of the U.S. homeless population.

 

For more info:  www.turnpurple.org 

 

The Turn Purple Campaign is the nations' first campaign against child abuse and the resulting problem of youth homelessness. 

 

 

 

DON'T RUNAWAY - TELL SOMEONE YOU CAN TRUST

 

 

Though harder to spot, emotional abuse is easier to deny.  But just as physical and sexual abuse have signposts to mark their presence, emotional abuse, being a systematic attack on one's sense of self, has common traits.  Just as physical and sexual abuse come in degrees of severity, emotional abuse runs the gamut of intensity and damage.

 

Anyone who had the misfortune of being raised by a parent who is cruel, vicious, vindictive, calculating, manipulative, a liar, cheat, selfish or neglectful may benefit from reading some of my favorite books on the subject: 

 

 

Why is it Always About You?  The Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism by Sandy Hotchkiss 

 

Emotional Blackmail:  When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation and Guilt to Manipulate You by Susan Forward 

 

Understanding the Borderline (Parent) Mother Helping Her Children Transcend the Intense, Unpredictable and Volatile Relationship by Christine Ann Lawson

 

Surviving a Borderline Parent:  How to Heal Your Childhood Wounds & Build Trust, Boundaries and Self-Esteem by Kimberlee Roth and Freda Friedman OR The Angry Heart:  Overcoming Borderline and Addictive Disorders by Joseph Santoro and Ronald Cohen

 

How to Journal for Therapy:

http://arar.essortment.com/therapyjournali_repu.htm 

  

 

If you tell your problem to someone that you can trust and still feel unhappy, unsafe, or uncomfortable, or if you don't trust anyone that you know, then you should CALL these numbers untill you speak with someone you can trust:

 

National Runaway Switchboard  1-800-RUNAWAY or 1-800-621-4000

Covenant House Nine Line 1-800-999-9999

Child HELP USA 1-800-4ACHILD

Stand Up for Kids 1-800-365-4KID

Volunteers of America  www.voa.org

 

 

If you are unhappy or uncomfortable with something in your life it is up to you to change your situation and tell someone that you can trust. 

 

 

Hope it helps!

 

 

                      I DON'T THINK ANY CHILD SHOULD HAVE TO GO THOUGH A PERSON HITTING THEM YOU SHOULD PUT YOU'R CHILD FIRST NO MAN COME'S  FIRST.
 
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August 25, 2007, 3:10 pm PDT

Bullying Dads

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In America there is a common misconception that children runaway from home because they are societal delinquents who want to be free of authority. The media depicts homeless and street kids as "rebels without a cause", as children who have no regard for society, who have no dreams and no aspirations for life but to get high.  

 

We know this portrayal of homeless and street kids to be false. In fact we know that 90% of children who run away have encountered mental, physical, emotional, and/ or sexual abuse. No child wants to live on the streets. No child wants to have to beg, steal, sell drugs, and/ or themselves just to survive.

 

More than half of the children on the streets are still under the age of 15.  Unable to legally work, these kids get involved in criminal activity just to survive.  Based on current estimates, there are more than one and a half million children, teenagers and young adults trying to survive on the U.S. streets today.  Children now make up 27 percent of the fastest growing segment of the U.S. homeless population.

 

For more info:  www.turnpurple.org 

 

The Turn Purple Campaign is the nations' first campaign against child abuse and the resulting problem of youth homelessness. 

 

 

 

DON'T RUNAWAY - TELL SOMEONE YOU CAN TRUST

 

 

Though harder to spot, emotional abuse is easier to deny.  But just as physical and sexual abuse have signposts to mark their presence, emotional abuse, being a systematic attack on one's sense of self, has common traits.  Just as physical and sexual abuse come in degrees of severity, emotional abuse runs the gamut of intensity and damage.

 

Anyone who had the misfortune of being raised by a parent who is cruel, vicious, vindictive, calculating, manipulative, a liar, cheat, selfish or neglectful may benefit from reading some of my favorite books on the subject: 

 

 

Why is it Always About You?  The Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism by Sandy Hotchkiss 

 

Emotional Blackmail:  When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation and Guilt to Manipulate You by Susan Forward 

 

Understanding the Borderline (Parent) Mother Helping Her Children Transcend the Intense, Unpredictable and Volatile Relationship by Christine Ann Lawson

 

Surviving a Borderline Parent:  How to Heal Your Childhood Wounds & Build Trust, Boundaries and Self-Esteem by Kimberlee Roth and Freda Friedman OR The Angry Heart:  Overcoming Borderline and Addictive Disorders by Joseph Santoro and Ronald Cohen

 

How to Journal for Therapy:

http://arar.essortment.com/therapyjournali_repu.htm 

  

 

If you tell your problem to someone that you can trust and still feel unhappy, unsafe, or uncomfortable, or if you don't trust anyone that you know, then you should CALL these numbers untill you speak with someone you can trust:

 

National Runaway Switchboard  1-800-RUNAWAY or 1-800-621-4000

Covenant House Nine Line 1-800-999-9999

Child HELP USA 1-800-4ACHILD

Stand Up for Kids 1-800-365-4KID

Volunteers of America  www.voa.org

 

 

If you are unhappy or uncomfortable with something in your life it is up to you to change your situation and tell someone that you can trust. 

 

 

Hope it helps!

 

 

 I don't first hand, but we've all heard the horror stories about mixed families, but honestly most of them don't work out because there is lack of boundaries and communication.  Single parents who feel like they have a 'void' in their lives should take greater care in making decisons where their children are concerned.  When a couple starts out they always put there best foot  forward- it's called 'courting'.  The relationship is new, exciting and fulfilling.  You don't get to see the true person for what they really are, and when the relationship gets serious, the childrens' roles should already be set in place.  A man just doesn't marry a woman, he marries a family. There should be many family get togethers with the potential new man, and mom should be observing these get togethers with a keen eye.  Body language plays a substantial part.  I would be curious how a man would  act during the course of an arguement or disagreement prior to nuptualls and I would observe them more than once.  Take some advice and marry a friend. Your chances are exceeding greater of the relationship working.  I married my friend almost 19yrs. ago and I couldn't be happier. But if a man were 'trying' to abuse my children, I would step in and try to disfuse the situation, and see if we could talk out our differences, but if said man touched my child in a abusive manner, Lets just say that said man would be sent packing immediately. If he truly cared, I would demand counciling til we reached the point that everyone would be on the same page and respected others involved.  Don't fool yourself, children can push buttons too, to for all concerned you need to evaluate the situation and lay your personal feelings aside. Communication is vital in ANY relationship. Good luck in all your endeavors and GOD BLESS.
 
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August 25, 2007, 5:15 pm PDT

Contemplating! What is there to think about here?

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I have been married to the same man for 23 years and have two children. My children have been bullied by their own dad. He has called them names and occasionally gotten overly aggressive with them. I have had to step in on more than one occasion to stop what he was doing. I think on the part of my husband the bullying goes back to how he was treated as a child. His mother was abusive both verbally and physically. It is hard to stay married to someone who wants to bully his way through life. I just have to bully him back when he gets out of line and straighten him back out. I have contemplated divorce many times because of his bullying behavior.

This is a no brainer here.  Who cares about his childhood?  What is it in you that would make you stay with someone who is abusive to you and your children? 

Men like this make me sick, but the mothers who stay make me even more sick.  I cannot imagine even tolerating this for a day, much less 23 years.  Stop looking at him and take a good look at yourself.  You are the abuser here too - any women who stands by it and watches should be held as accountable as the father. 

 
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August 26, 2007, 2:32 pm PDT

not sure this is bullying

I am in my second marriage.  THe first lasted 21 years until he had an affair.  This marriage has lasted 5 years.  I have a step son who is 19 living away from the house. I have my daughters 17 adn 13 and our daughter who just turned 3. She was a suprise.  Before we married he was a wonderful, caring, quiet, loving man to my daughters and me. Lots of things have happened including him lying before we were married and me finding out after we were married. He had a lot of baggage. Bottom line now is he yells and screams daily at the kids and then at me because I don't yell, scream, ground,etc.  He is very generous to me, anything I want I have.  However, the kids are a different story.  I guess I just need to take the kids and leave. We have the conversation weekly about screaming and yelling.  It is never a conversation, because neither of us change our position. I don't know what to do.  I never should have remarried. I don't know if it is important but I am 47 and he is 53, we both work full time.  I do everything but the grass and some laundry. Help. 
 
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August 26, 2007, 3:18 pm PDT

Hi Russell!

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Bully Dads Doctor Phil. Doctor Phil I am glad that you are not a Bully Dads at all. See you on Monday August 27, 2007 Sincerley Your Russell Vlaanderen.-----------------------------------------
For real are you?Sincerely,your friend housewife52
 

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