Topic : 08/27 Bully Dads

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(Original Air Date: 05/02/07) They threaten, scream, intimidate and even bite. They’re not tantrum-throwing kids … they’re bullying dads! Shannon has only been married for three months but says she’s ready for a divorce. She says her husband, Kevin, calls her kids “fat,” “lazy” and “losers,” and has physically assaulted her son. She even called the police on him three weeks before their recent wedding. Kevin says he feels like he’s being pushed to his breaking point and intimidates his stepchildren because he is not allowed to punish them. To find out what was going on, Dr. Phil set up cameras in the couple’s home. You won’t believe what they reveal! Can Shannon and Kevin save this marriage, or was it doomed from the start? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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August 27, 2007, 3:28 pm PDT

I disagree

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First of all, let me say this. Stepparents should not be disciplining their stepchildren. Both partners need to get that straightened out before they get married. They need to come to an agreement on the type of punishment if the child is out of control. But after they make an agreement then the biological parent issues the punishment.

I am tired of step children getting the worst of it from the step parent, and I think the biological parent needs to step up to the plate and protect their children. If that means a divorce then get a divorce.

Like the message before mine says, you only have that child and that child needs to be protected, you can always get another spouse.

I sincerely believe that there should be parenting classes and people need to get those classes before they get married and have children. I have some friends who have a child and the child is only 9 months and the grandparent and parent think that they should slap the child's hand when it picks up something it shouldn't have picked up. I said that's wrong. Children are learning by what they feel, taste, and see. If you don't want them to pick something up then put it away. They think I am wrong. Excuuuuuse me!! I don't think so. They say she knows she shouldn't be doing that, because she is advanced for her age, huuh?? I just don't get it and it makes me angry and I want to just leave the house because I want to ring some parents necks.  Well, I could go on and on but I won't because a may just go over and slaps some parents of small children. I didn't grow to be 60 without learning something. Pleeeeasee!

 I just have to put my 2 cents about your comment that Step-parents should not be discipling their  step-children.  I  really have to disagree with you.  I have both a step-mother and a step-father and they both disciplined my sister and me.  I see absolutly nothing wrong with it.  Kids need to respect authority in the family, whether it is a parent or step-parent.  I feel that is what is wrong with some of the world, kids have no respect for ANYONE!  If a step-parent has to step in and discipline a child, so be it.  They are part of a family, not a visitor to it!
 
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August 27, 2007, 3:30 pm PDT

Bully Dad

This guy needs to be in jail - I lived this as a child and KNOW first hand what it does to a child's self esteem.  I vowed to myself when I was 8 years old that I would never treat a child of mine like that.  I watched my father beat my older brother until he was on the floor and then kick him down the hall.  That brother has been married and/or in LTA's 7 or 8 times.  Each of this partners has been abused; he has been on drugs and in jail.  My younger brother lives on the streets and is a drug addict.  My older sister is on her second abusive marriage.    I have not been able to sustain a health adult relationship but I never physically abused my son.  However, I caught myself on occassion being verably abusive.  Fortunately, I taught my son to stand up for himself and he would call me on it - but I know I damaged him just the same.  By the way, my oldest brother denies that my dad abused him - he says it was our mom.  She was also abusive but not the the extent of our father.  This woman needs to get herself and her children out of that situation NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES.  These children did not ask to be there and a parent's responsibility is to protect them, Period.
 
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August 27, 2007, 3:30 pm PDT

Mom is just as bad

I watched this show today as was sickened by both parents.  Him for the bullying and her for the attitude.  She is no angel either.  I believe her children have watched this all their lives from others including her.  STOP MAKING EXCUSES LADY AND GET OFF THE POT.  I have never been so angry with a Mother who allows her children to live like this for one minute. I think the mother is not telling the whole truth.
 
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August 27, 2007, 3:31 pm PDT

I am in tears

I am watching this episode right now and I am just in TEARS. In the video of the first couple, it shows the step-dad  leaning over his BABY girl, trying to attack his stepson. The baby girl is SCREAMING, out of fear! This is just SICKENING! And then he says that he stays home 5 night a week with the kids while the mom goes to school. EXCUSE ME???? What levelheaded mother would LEAVE her children with this man, knowing what he does to them???

 

This show should not only be called "Bully Dads", but "Stupid moms". If you're with a man who ABUSES your children, LEEAAAAVVVVVEEEE! You dont stay with a man who treat YOU or your own CHILREN like this. Its just ridiculous and these people should have their kids taken away and put within a SAFE home wth people who will LOVE them.

 
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August 27, 2007, 3:34 pm PDT

Hey travinski!

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This man should be barred from being anywhere near children. I saw this the last time it aired. Honestly, I think I would have jumped him and dragged his butt out the door before he made that little baby cry again. And then he has the sheer audacity to claim the victim - "oh, she doesn't see what they put me through." For Gawd's sake, they are CHILDREN!!!! I know from first hand experience - I have been that baby - I have been that girl sitting on the couch - watching it debilitates me. Because as a child, you think someone is going  to be murdered, the cops are going to come, sirens are going to start sounding, on and on and on.......He (and she) have no clue that once that fear is instilled, it takes root like a weed and can swallow you up throughout the rest of your life. I remember closing my eyes and plugging my ears. I remember running to my room and turning off the lights, kneeling on the floor plugging my ears. I am not a whole person as a result. That mother is too concerned about her own wounds to tend to her children's. I hate that man. She is an accomplice.

It was awful to watch wasn't it? But did you happen to see the follow-up? It might have made you whole again.
 
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August 27, 2007, 3:35 pm PDT

08/27 Bully Dads

That little girl screaming and covering her ears is me 45 years ago.

My father brutalized my brother. My mother stood by him.

 

On my mother's death bed she unloaded on me that she wished she had divorced my dad and took my brother and me away when we were younger.

 

I, like many of you on this board, ended up caring for my dad until he passed earlier this year.

 

The only way to find peace is to forgive your abuser.

 

Please everyone reading this board remember, the child who IS NOT the object of the abuse but WITNESESS the abuse is being abused just as much if not worse.


Everyone forgets about the little kids covering their ears and begging their mom or dad to stop yelling at their brother or sister. These kids need as much help as the kid being abused.

 

After years of depression and other destructive behaviors I am finally finding peace. I am starting my new life when I hit 50. 50 will be my new birthday.

 

I don't understand why the mothers stay with these men. To me, they are just as guilty of child abuse as the abusing male. In fact the mothers make me angrier. They should know better.

 

Thank you Dr; Phil for bringing this to the attention of your audience.

 

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August 27, 2007, 3:39 pm PDT

Yes

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I truly am concerned for those people writing posts in any way defending the father. "What pushed the man to this behaviour?" Who gives a damn? It worries me because I'm afraid this behaviour may be normal in more households than I care to imagine. How many children out there are in the fetal position? How many of them are crying? How many of them are being dragged around by a screaming maniac over an everyday issue like homework? And too many people on this board don't seem to be too worked up about this. That is what frightens me. There are too many agreeing with this man. I could just cry. How many homes does Dr. Phil have to go into before you get it? Children are people too - not just the parents! Lord have mercy! I hope the Lord heals all those sick minds out there who fail to see the horrible and permanent effect on those kids. As Dr. Phil says, "it changes who they are!"
Thank god someone else feels this way. There is not any reason in the world that makes it ok for this man (and I use that word loosley) to treat those precious children that way.
 
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August 27, 2007, 3:42 pm PDT

knowing how these kids feel

i can sympathize with these kids and watching the show today just made me mad. i am no longer a child but i am an adult that has lived there pain way to long. being in my late 30's and still go through it  every now and then well that's along story. i just hope these people know what the mental effect will be on there kids because it ain't pretty.  i wonder when things like this go on why people have children or even get involved with others, it's just one of those questions. it's very sad and i hope those kids and others like them dosen't effect them to bad.
 

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August 27, 2007, 3:43 pm PDT

Straight to jail

I just heard you say Kevin, that your own sister agrees with you. I bet after she sees how you act towards those precious children, she will not think quite so highly of you!!!
I hope you end up in jail
 
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August 27, 2007, 3:47 pm PDT

Hello!!! People are you hearing yourselves??

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I AM SITTING HERE WATCHING THE SHOW AND GETTING VERY PISSED....I DON'T AGREE WITH THE WAY THE DAD IS TREATING THE KIDS.BUT.....IT IS VERY OBVIOUS THAT THE MOM HAS DONE NOTHING THE RAISE THE BOY RIGHT.......SHE SHOULD HAVE STOOD UP A SAID SOMETHING TO THE BOY FOR WHAT HE DID WHEN HE FLIPPED OFF THE DAD...IT IS ALWAY OBVIOUS THAT THE MOM APPROVES OF THE LANGUAGE THAT THE BOY WAS USING......I THINK THAT ALL THE BLAME SHOULD NOT BE PUT ON THE DAD CAUSE THE MOM IS JUST AS BAD AS HE IS FOR NOT TEACHING  HER SON MORE RESPECT FOR OTHERS........

 They were fighting because this full grown Dad was talking to his own 14 year old daughter, telling her "he hates his stepchildren" and you think that the mother is wrong for not disciplinning this child?

What should this child have done that would have been appropriate to you, when this full grown man is terrorising the entire house?

You clearly have a nice husband because anyone that has ever had a bully have power over them, would know how to identify the victim here, and would understand the helplessness this small, young child feels. I wonder how your own children would have reacted had their stepfather talked to apparently their entire family, stepsister, aunt and uncle and everyone according to this full grown bullying man.? hmmm , but you would have swooped in, in your supermom suits and saved the day right? you would have spanked the child , or given him a timeout? How would  that have changed a single dimension of this horrible situation? The kid is still being bullied, by a man that hates him and had taken it upon himself to prove to the world how horrible  this ABUSED CHILD is.  The mother learned poor decision making skills because she has never had any power either.  but you have the answer, teach your child that respect means nothing because you are forced to give it to people  that don't deserve it. This reinforces the bad  behavior, in case you couldn't figure that out for yourself, If you have done this to your own children, YOU are giuilty of abuse, you have taught your child poor coping skills and you should apologize to them and explain why you were wrong.

 

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