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Created on : Friday, August 31, 2007, 10:20:09 am
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Dr. Phil checks back in with Christy and Stacy, two squabbling sisters who captivated viewers and lit up the message boards! Christy thinks Stacy’s husband is a pedophile, and she reported them both to Child Protective Services for physical abuse and allegedly downloading child porn. The drama continued after the show. Find out what happened when the women returned home. Then, Christy and her husband, Alan, say the previous show was one-sided and portrayed them in a negative light. Dr. Phil gives the disgruntled guests a chance to air their grievances, but will Christy be appeased? And, Stacy’s children say their aunt’s allegations have turned their lives upside down. Hear why the youngest kids say they live in constant fear. Plus, both sisters take a four-hour polygraph test to see who’s really telling the truth. Tell us what you think!

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September 5, 2007, 9:23 pm PDT

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I JUST HAVE TO SAY I READ A POST THAT SAID DR PHIL SHOULD SCREEN THE CRAZIES MORE!  I WANTED TO RESPOND BUT CAN'T FIND IT AGAIN....I THINK AT LEAST NOW ALL THIS IS OUT IN THE OPEN THE CHILDREN CAN AT LEAST START TO HEAL...I THINK THIS WAS THE BEST THING THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED AT LEAST THERE IS A VIDEO AND POLYGRAPH REPORT FOR THAT FAMILY TO USE WHEN PEOPLE START TO JUDGE!  I HOPE CHRISTY GETS THE MENTAL HELP SHE NEEDS ALSO...OR AT LEAST ANGER MANAGEMENT!

That's pretty much the point of Stacy appearing.  To sue for defamation costs money (which they don't have much of) and takes time.  Also, I doubt all those who know about the allegations would bother to find and read the court transcripts (if they went to court).  Now everyone who cares to has heard/seen both sides.
 
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September 5, 2007, 9:34 pm PDT

wow....what a show

I just finished watching the follow-up show.....that woman needs help.  I feel bad for her, she seems like she needs and craves attention.  I think she did not expect Dr. Phil to give her that test.  I think she kept up with her accusations so she wouldn't look like a fool.  I also believe once her sister confided in her about the porn on the computer, she took it as a opportunity to look like a hero.  I believe her mind that she thought by saying all of this she really began to believe that her sister was going to be so grateful and lean on her for the support during this "tragic time" and when her sister left her husband.....she would be there to pick up the pieces and everyone would be like wow..she found the evidence and helped her sister...."what a amazing sister and person".....I could just picture her sitting around thinking this how she was going to show everyone how she came to the rescue and fixed everything.  When it didn't go according to her "plan" I think she got angry and vengeful and decided one way or another she was going to come out on top ...no matter who had to pay the price...be it her marriage, her sisters marriage, the children involved, the man hours it took and the money to investigate all of this.  I feel bad for her, I think she must live a very sad life to dwell about her past.  I can understand the pain...but there are people who have lived through more horrible things and have come out stronger and done something positive with their experiences ...not turned them into a crutch and something to blame how their life has gone wrong and for their behavior.....I also feel really bad for her husband...what a sheep.  Just sitting there agreeing with her.  I feel bad for him if she ever starts a witch hunt with him.  I agree with Dr. Phil...he could have gone back in time and shown her every step that family made and she was still going to not admit she maybe messed up...she is too proud for that.  Well that is my 2 cents...
 
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September 5, 2007, 9:47 pm PDT

christie needs more counseling

wow that girl needs help, she seems so angry and un-educated about life. My sister is a drama instigator, stacy should have never feed her any information about her life, people like that take what they hear and blow it out of porportion, probably because they have nothing better to do or maybe she is focused on this to avoid her own problems, and even when the truth stares them straight in the face they will never admit they were wrong. Thank goodness she doesn't have children that would be more counseling needed. Abuse is serious I know I have been there but its clear to see its not at all what christie makes it out to be. Christie focus on your own issues.
 
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September 5, 2007, 10:06 pm PDT

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I just finished watching the follow-up show.....that woman needs help.  I feel bad for her, she seems like she needs and craves attention.  I think she did not expect Dr. Phil to give her that test.  I think she kept up with her accusations so she wouldn't look like a fool.  I also believe once her sister confided in her about the porn on the computer, she took it as a opportunity to look like a hero.  I believe her mind that she thought by saying all of this she really began to believe that her sister was going to be so grateful and lean on her for the support during this "tragic time" and when her sister left her husband.....she would be there to pick up the pieces and everyone would be like wow..she found the evidence and helped her sister...."what a amazing sister and person".....I could just picture her sitting around thinking this how she was going to show everyone how she came to the rescue and fixed everything.  When it didn't go according to her "plan" I think she got angry and vengeful and decided one way or another she was going to come out on top ...no matter who had to pay the price...be it her marriage, her sisters marriage, the children involved, the man hours it took and the money to investigate all of this.  I feel bad for her, I think she must live a very sad life to dwell about her past.  I can understand the pain...but there are people who have lived through more horrible things and have come out stronger and done something positive with their experiences ...not turned them into a crutch and something to blame how their life has gone wrong and for their behavior.....I also feel really bad for her husband...what a sheep.  Just sitting there agreeing with her.  I feel bad for him if she ever starts a witch hunt with him.  I agree with Dr. Phil...he could have gone back in time and shown her every step that family made and she was still going to not admit she maybe messed up...she is too proud for that.  Well that is my 2 cents...
 I agree totally.  I do believe her sister confided in her about the porn on the computer.  I can understand the pain too, but that lady needs to move on.  If I were Stacy, I would start with a restraining order.  Her accusations of sexual molestation were SO serious, that she could even sue her own sister for slander, libel, and defamation of character, not to mention intentional infliction of emotional distress.  But I think Stacy is above all that.  She just wants to move on. And lesson learned?  NEVER, ever confide in a person that is broken and not getting help from their childhood, even if it's your sister.   There are certain personalities out there that are histrionic, meaning they blow things out of porportion just to effect attention to themselves.  Sad, very sad.  The whole family is in my prayers.
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September 5, 2007, 10:13 pm PDT

Christy really needs to find her own Peace

After watching the show, I feel as though Dr. Phil is correct in stating that Christy really does believe that what she is saying is true. And no matter what is proven, she will never believe anything  except what will make her feel "right".  Speaking as someone who has been sexually abused as a child, you really have to go and find a way to heal, and move on with your own live, or you will "find" pain in every situation.

Christy will always see, what she wants to see until she finds what is really the true pain in her life. Once she does, she will find that nothing will ever cause her this type of pain again, because she will have to power to not let it.

The reason that I don't believe that what she is saying is actually real, is the intense anger that she needs to project her point of view with. That isn't just from fustration, its from a need of revenge.

I hope that she goes to seek help, so that she will grow.
 
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September 5, 2007, 10:44 pm PDT

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I hope this is sarcasm.  A man that does not take a polygraph himself to deny these allegations should not be watching the children. 
 Why? Do you know him personally? You should know that there are people like Christy in this world that would do anything to get attention & to make others look bad.
 
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September 5, 2007, 10:54 pm PDT

why not to ask the father of these kids to take a polygraph?

 

 

We already know that there was a computer with lots of photographs with child pornography in Stacy's house.

We know also that Stacy found a tape with child porn in her husbands car .

Nobody denies these facts...

Does anybody have reasonable explanations to it? May be her husband? (On the show this question was nicely omitted) 

It is enough for anyone to raise a huge suspicion on the guy.

If Dr. Phill believes in polygraph tests, then why he avoids the topic of suggesting a polygraph test to this guy??? (May be in private). And if he did, what are the results?

What if kids lie just to protect their family? What if sexual abuse hasn't  happened yet, but might one day?

 

 

 
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September 5, 2007, 11:08 pm PDT

She didn't fail the whole polygraph...

And did everyone miss the fact that the polygraphs were four hours long and that we only heard the answers for about 3 or  4 questions?  The polygraph did say that there was an issue with porn on the computer.  So there was some serious concern there.  Especially if it prompted Stacy to let Christy take the computer. 

Not only that but how could you have ever had a fight with your daughter that would end up with shoving her against the wall (which was brought up by Dr. Phil at the end of the show to Stacy) and pass the polygraph question about never abusing your kids?  If I ever shoved my daughter into a wall, I would feel so guilty that I'm sure I would fail that question.  Is it possible that Stacy does not feel she is doing anything wrong when she behaves that way?

I used to work in a legal situation where polygraphs were used people and it is not terribly difficult to pass a polygraph test when you are lying. That is why they are not admissible in court.  They are terrible, inaccurate evidence. 

I believe Christy believes those kids were being abused.  And if she believes that, of course she is going to be angry. Anyone who seriously believes that would be frantic and completely irate and probably irrational. 

As far as the 'system' is concerned, prosecution won't happen without ample evidence, which is hard to get in this situation.  Which is exactly why you hear about people being abused for YEARS.

I was working one time and a lady came to visit her husband and she was telling me how her husband was in jail for molesting their daughter.  This woman was angry at her daughter for telling someone and getting the husband thrown in jail.  VERY SICK.

I feel sorry for the kids.

 
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September 5, 2007, 11:32 pm PDT

Boggled

How does a woman get so narcisistic as to think that all these agencies, the polygraph and certainly at this point the general public are wrong and she isnt?  I feel very bad for Christy. 

 

Counseling is very tricky.  If a counselor tells a patient what they dont want to hear when they dont want help for their real problem, they usually switch and write that therapist off as unsuitable, much as Christy has done with Dr. Phil.

 

Christy has clearly written off, not only Dr. Phil for not telling her what she wants to hear, but every professional agency that has investigated her sister.  No matter how over worked they are, they know what they are doing.  The overwhelming number of people that have ruled out any kind of abuse in her sisters family simply doesnt compute to Christy. 

 

Furthermore, her current therapist and husband should be very ashamed of themselves for supporting this and not recognizing Christy's very serious underlying issues.  I know its scary but i think its time Christy looked inward rather than outward.  There has to be some very serious underlying reasons this woman is so obsessed with her sister.  Christy admitted to checking the Dr. Phil website to see what people had posted about her episode.  Would one have to check that kind of media if they were not completely narcisistic?

 

It frightens me to think who, what and where Christy's attention might focus when this attention on her and obsession is no longer being met. 

 

I was sorry to see her sister even respond to anything she said on the follow up episode.  Christy dug her own hole both shows.  Christy's accusations and arguments are simply not worth responding to now that its over.  Christy's choice is to clearly cut herself off from her entire family and live an autonomous life in the bubble she has created.

 
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September 5, 2007, 11:51 pm PDT

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Maybe now that the polygraph results have been released and intail good news pertaining to the childrens welfare,Christy can now work on her unstable behavior and let her sister devote all her attention to making her family strong again.

 
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