Topic : 01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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Created on : Saturday, September 29, 2007, 09:23:47 am
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How well do you think you know your neighbors, your friends and even your child's teacher? It is estimated that four to eight million people in North America are swinging in the suburbs -- mostly middle-class folks from all walks of life. Dr. Phil gives you a closer look at who these couples are who engage in sex with other twosomes. First up, Nita and Walter have been swinging for the last 12 years. They say they are happy in the lifestyle, so why does it cause tension in their relationship? Then, Brent says he has a strong yearning for he and his wife, Renee, to participate in a threesome. Renee says the idea disgusts her, but worries that if she refuses to join in, Brent will leave her. They fight constantly, often dragging their 17-year-old son into the middle of their chaos. Brent says he thinks about having threesomes every other day, but says that his desire is normal. What does Dr. Phil think? And, Dr. Phil viewers weigh in and share their thoughts about the swinging lifestyle. Join the discussion.

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January 25, 2008, 8:02 am PST

it's emotional rape

I'm a live and let live person - what happens between two CONSENTING adults in their private time is their business.  These people chose to put their private business on national television - opening themselves to public opinion.  I once lived with a boyfriend who would coerce and badger me about sex until I would give in just to shut him up, and cry during the entire act.  I know NOW, that it was rape...  Renee's husband should be prosecuted for rape.
 
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January 25, 2008, 8:03 am PST

Low self-esteem?

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You couldn't be farther from the truth!  Granted there are some that do have low self esteem or are not fully comfortable with this and do it for their significant others and as you can see from some of the other posts, that does not work.  But for those of us that do this of our own choice and do enjoy it, our self esteems are quiet high!  Think about it, how could you walk into a room completely naked with your head held high if you didn't have self esteem even to the point of arrogance!  As for the ones still talking about the effects on the children.  I want to teach our children that sex is a normal healthy thing that is not shameful but is something wonderful to be shared by consenting ADULTS.  I also will tells them about the dangers of unprotected sex.  There is no question that my children can't ask me that I will not answer honestly and they know that even as young as they are.  My husband and I are trying to instill that in them at a young age so that hopefully as they get older and hit their teen years they will still fill comfortable coming to us with questions about any and everything including sex.  And for the record, my 7 year old has already ask me what sex was because she say one of the government sponsored commercials that came on TV saying "Talk to your kids about sex".  And I gave her an age appropriate answer.
 
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January 25, 2008, 8:04 am PST

Did they bump their heads?

Swinging is cheating the only difference is  swinging you both know about it and who's involved. Straight cheating it takes awhile before you know how long and who. I have been cheated on so I know the pain and anger. I can't even think about watching first hand what went on and that is what swinging is. Marriage is between the same TWO people all the time. Not including the rest of the world in with you.  
 
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January 25, 2008, 8:05 am PST

Swingers

I just cannot believe that there are that many people with that lifestyle. I was born and raised in the church and it's bad enough that fornication is a sin, but now it's like people that are married and that are supposed to be devoted to that person and love them with everything that they have and only them,  these people are going against their vows, whether or not they are both doing it together, they are still going against their vows to each other and sinning.

 

I think that it is gross and un-ethical.

 
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January 25, 2008, 8:05 am PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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Well, your kids are NOT......belive me they DO know what you are doing "down the hall".
Dr.Phil.
    I thought if you need to go out and have a threesome and your partner doesn't like it, it shouldn't happen. You are married cause you love them and you are welling to devote you whole life to them, there isn't nothing saying that you have to be in involved in a threesome. I thing it is degrating how your lover wants to have one and you don't.

But if both partner is willing to be involved in it, I don't think there isn't nothing wrong with it
 
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January 25, 2008, 8:05 am PST

swingers

I just want to warn everyone who is already or is thinking about being a part of the lifestlye. I was in the lifestyle, very willing to do so, with my husband. We were involved with a couple where the male half became very interested in me for more than just swinging. He began to phone more than an average couple is suppose to, he started telling me that he loved me, then he wanted to meet with me without my husband even knowing about the meets. This was a major red flag. I told my husband about all of this. Well needless to say my husband and I are now seperated because of it. I didn't even step away from the marriage and I was honest with my husband through the whole thing. Now my family is torn apart. Both of my kids live with their father and I am alone. Although I have not lost any hope because everyday I pray that my marriage will come back together. So please, please be careful.
 
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January 25, 2008, 8:09 am PST

Secerts in the suburbs

 My husband and I have traded partners three times in our 12 yrs of being married and I will never do it again. It was ok but it was not the same and we both felt bad and dispointed with each other and was not happy with the decision we made. I feel that if u are married or with someone that u love then remender the vals u made to each other and the coment u made to one another. I will never in my life share myself or my husband with someone again. We are happy and we love each other and we spice up our own sex life when it gets boring.
 
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January 25, 2008, 8:12 am PST

why did they ever get married

why would you ever get married if you wanted other people? the first couple on the show was the most messed up! her husband is obviously not satisfied with her so she should feel insecure. just because your spouse does it in front of you it doesn't make it not cheating you were suppose to be commited to only each other. obviously he wants other women and not just her. one of these days he will probably leave her for one of the other women!
 
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January 25, 2008, 8:15 am PST

Depends On Your Outlook

Most of the people in this lifestyle are actually secure in their relationship enough to go on with this sort of thing. My husband and I have very strong sexual appetites but our love is solely in one place....with each other. A lot of people meet all different types of couples and have sex just for sex. Our outlook on this is that we have ONE COUPLE that we swap with. We dont have sex every single time that we see them. We go out to dinner and to parties together and meetings. We have found a rare kind of happiness. As a woman I have to be secure about my husbands love for me and know that at the end of the day no matter what his heart belongs to me. There is absolutely no room for jealousy in this. I have a very strong attraction to women and as does he. Its a double standard for just one of us to have sex with someone else and not the other. For the couples on the show they do not need to be in this lifestyle, And for the second couple. The man forcing his wife to have these threesomes is equivalent to rape. Its the same thing. We are not open about this to our children nor do we participate in these acts in our home. our marital bed is OURS. We set rules and boundaries before we ever tried it for the first time. And if something like this seems to interest you know that you have to respect the other person in the relationship first and foremost. It does open the window to temptation but as does porn....For some people going to the gym, swimming in a public pool, at the beach, going to bars, going to strip clubs, alll of these things open temptations, Secure adults in a realtionship dont have to worry about the temptation! I once read that men and women alike date the bad boys and the bad girls, the kind that are great in bed sexxy powerful and great fun but when it comes to marrying they want the "good" girl or man. Then thats why their sex life bombs and they divorce. Divorce rates in swingers are actually extremly low. I am happy in what we do.

 
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January 25, 2008, 8:15 am PST

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First of all, I have been happily married for 30 yrs.  My husband and I have three amazing children, ages 21, 26, and 28, who are thriving in society and have good wholesome moral beliefs and standards.  The very thought of what is referred to in our society as a "threesome" disgusts me to no end.  What woman in her right mind would want to watch her husband engage in any form of sex with someone else?  Sex is an important part of a happy and fulfilling marriage, but is something that should be sacred, respected, and shared between only the two of you.  Call me old fashioned, but what ever happened to loyalty, faithfulness, respect, and the ability to be content with having sex with ONE person?  I would be the first to agree that sex should be spontaneous, creative (not perverted), and give pleasure to both, however, it is something that two people "in love" share together, not something that you share with a perfect stranger, and not something degrading.  One last thought, I thank God that my husband is who he is, but if he so much as ever mentioned "threesome" to me (which I would stake my life on the fact that he would never do), he would be out the door faster than you can blink! bottom line! 

AMEN SISTA!!!
 
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