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Topic : 10/11 Munchausen Mom

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Created on : Friday, October 05, 2007, 11:28:17 am
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Dr. Phil takes a look at the unthinkable: making your own child sick to fulfill a disturbing need to get medicine, sympathy and attention. The idea might sound unimaginable, but for people with a psychological disorder called Munchausen by Proxy, it’s irresistible. First, see disturbing footage of parents caught on tape actually causing harm to their children. Then, Dr. Phil looks into the mind of one woman, Tracy, convicted of trying to harm her youngest daughter by constantly keeping her sick. Hear from Tracy's oldest daughter, Heather, who survived years of her mother’s abuse. She says her mom forced her into a wheelchair unnecessarily, took her to almost 400 medical visits, and caused her to spend over 100 days of her life in hospital beds -- needlessly. Most disturbing of all is the secret Heather revealed to police about what her mother buried in their back yard. When Dr. Phil makes a phone call to Tracy in prison, will she acknowledge the problem with her parenting? And could she be preparing to have another child? Hear Dr. Phil’s strong words for this Munchausen mom. Plus, how are Tracy’s children doing now that she is out of their lives? Note: Viewer discretion is advised. Join the discussion.

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October 11, 2007, 11:45 am CDT

false caccusations

Hello,

 

My child, at age 9 became mysteriously and suddenly ill. I took her to about 14 doctors over the course of 2 years before recieving a diagnosis. She had and still has, 11 years later, Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome. To date she has been seen by over 24 doctors because of CFIDS and the public school district she was enrolled in from grades K - 12.

 

While dealing with the school system I learned the ins and out of the public school system. My daughter was under Section 504 and Special Education. She was placed under Special Education for CFIDS and Visual Impairety. The school district wanted her exited from Special Education prior to her gradation. This step would ensure the school district would not be responsible, in any way , including financially, for her. Children under Special Education are entitled to a Free education until and through age  21.

 

I fought back and tried to keep her in Special Education. The school district made my daughter go to 3 more speciallists, one of them was the doctor who initially diagnosed her with CFIDS. His letter to the school district, while it did not say she no longer had CFIDS, because she did, suggested I be brought before the hospital board for suspicion of Munchausen By Proxy and other and some other stuff I can not bring to mind at this time. (the hospital was and still is a top pediatric hospital in my state)

 

My story is long and involved. The long and short is that while the school district would often bring up the topic of Munchausen By Proxy at the many, and I do mean many PPTs for my daughter...(.1 meeting was over 12 hours long over a period of 3 days!) and the doctor wrote the letter I previously mentioned, no one ever investigated me for Munchausen By Proxy. I feel I was a victim of harrassment due to my knowledge of how the public education system works and the accommadations my child was qualified for under Special Education.

 

The school district did infact , in my opinion,"kick" my child out of Special Education prior to her graduating highschool. They said she no longer qualified for Special Education, yet she still had and to this day, has CFIDS!

 

My child is presently a junior in college and doing quite well. The college provides her with accademic accommadations she needs. Financial support is provided by her parents.

 

After this ordeal with the public school system, I have vowed to advocate, free of charge, for any child with special needs. I am successful helping those that seek my help.

 

I have a friend who, not only shared my experience  but endured her own as she has 3 children with CFIDS. We advocated together.

 

Our children are amazing people for having risen above those who tried to crush them.

 

I am not the one that "hurt" my child....they know who they are!

 
October 11, 2007, 11:57 am CDT

Re: need Help

Quote From: angmaryus

Dear God!  My husband and I have suspected his ex-wife of MBP for about two years.  CPS finally got involved in February, but only because she had accused us of sexually abusing their two children.  The accussations were totally bogus and the Sherriff Investigator and CPS told my husband to "get a damn good lawyer and get custody of your kids".  CPS in New York (our state) then contacted CPS in Ohio (where she lives) to report that in their investigation (of us) they beleived that the mother may be suffering from MPS.  Ohio CPS did nothing.  They would not even speak to husband because the report did not come from him, it came from the case-worker in our State.  You must know that the 7 year-old had had 35 different doctors, 4 different emergency rooms, a psychologist, a speech therpaist, several visits to CPS for exams for "so-called" unfounded abuse, the list goes on, in the last two years alone.  The 4-year-old has had 42 different doctors, 4 different emergency rooms, a psychologist, several visits to CPS including 2 vaginal exams (even after a doctor testified there was no abuse and was unaware that the mother continued to pursue it), the list goes on, again over the last two years.  They have had surguries and constant medications.  The mother sends us letters with all the ailments she suspects such as lead poisoning, allergies, autism, sleeping disorders, seperation anxiety, catch scratch fever, ear infections, sinus infections, upper respitory infections, pink eye, the list is endless.  The oldest says his mother pours water in his ears.  The youngest says she wakes up at night because she thinks she's getting poked and stung by bees.  She says her mommy takes her to the doctor when she wakes up.  She talks about how her mommy doesn't like the big hospital anymore.  They literally drive one and sometimes two hours to go to different doctors and hospitals!  These kids are with us for weeks at a time and have never required medical care.  They sleep through the night.  They are happy.  It never ceases to amaze me the difference in them from day 1 (when they come to see us) to day 5.  It breaks our hearts to think what they are going through and what might be happening at their mother's.  Can someone help us?  CPS in New York can't do anything more even though they suspect it (CPS is a state run agency).  The New York Family Court could care less.  We filed for immediate custody and were basically verbally abused in the Judge's Chambers.  When we went to court the judge would't even hear the case.  He sent both parents to seperate rooms and told them to work it out.  We have no where left to go.  We feel angry, frustrated, and horrified for these children.  We feel that the court system (at least in our county) does not protect our children.  It is the most sickening feeling a person can have to sit and watch Dr.Phil's show today and wonder if your children/step-children are going though what those innocent and helpless children went through.  Please, can.....and will.....someone help us and our kids?

I'm so sorry for what your going through. My sister in-law and mother in-law have made accuations like that about my kids. Even though CPS could not find any eveidence since it was all false. It seemed like as each time CPS would prove their accuations wrong they would come up with worse ones. Now it's my so ca;;ed sister in-law who has this MBP. She has taken her kids to the Dr for everything and the Dr's say there is nothing wrong with the kids. It has gotten to the point to where my son has ADHD and had to be on meds other wise he wouldn't make it in school at all. And I saw huge improvements when has his meds. My sister in-law who doesn't displine her kids at all told her kids Dr that they need meds for ADHD. The Dr checked the kids out and found them perfectly healthy. Since she didn't get her way she went to a child psychologist and tried to get her kid on meds. And even he said they don't need it. She begged and begged until the Dr's just gave up. Her and her kids have been in the ER and the Dr's office many time in a month. The sad thing is her mom knows what she's doing and does NOTHING.

 

So i know how you feel and what your going through. I to would like to know about thi MBP and would like to know where I can get the info on this.

 

Hope all is well. Take care

 
October 11, 2007, 12:06 pm CDT

this is so sad

these parents make the parents on the show yesterday look like angels, i cant belive any one could ever do that stuff to there childen, i have a one yr old son, i would kill any one that would hurt him, let alone me doing something like that to him! these parents are sick!!!
 
October 11, 2007, 12:33 pm CDT

adult survivors MSBP

My sister and I survived MSBP as children. It is like a childhood in the "twilight zone." For 20 years, our mother has denied what she did to us even in the face of our telling her that we were not sick. Even more painful than the abuse is the reaction of other family members who negate the harm and pressure us to basically stick to the family script.

My mother nearly killed me. I still fear that I'll become incompacitated and my mother will be allowed to visit my hospital room, charm the nursing staff, impress everyone with her competence and commitment as a parent and then kill me.

I would like to find an online support group for survivors of MSBP. I've always wanted to process some of my memories, but am not sure where to find someone who would really understand.
 
October 11, 2007, 12:43 pm CDT

10/11 Munchausen Mom

Quote From: lydiachris2000

  IF SHE IS GOING TO ABUSE CHILDREN LIKE THAT THEN IT SHOULD BE , THAT SHE CAN'T HAVE ANYMORE  IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, THE Y HAVE ALREADY SAID SHE CAN'T SEE THE KIDS SHE HAS , WHY SHOULD THEY PERMIT HER TO HAVE MORE?
Just because she abused her child does not mean that the government has a right to force her into any type of procedure. I don't believe that she deserves anymore, however it is like telling people to go use their money to get a procedure. If you want this done to people you pay for it.
 
October 11, 2007, 12:45 pm CDT

forgive me but

I DONT UNMDERSTAND WHAT THIS MUNCHAUSEN IS.SO DR.PHIL IF YOU READ THIS PLEASE EXPLAIN IT TO ME THANK YOU.NOW HOW CAN ANYONE HURT KIDS LIKE THIS MOTHER DID.MY GOD I WAS CRYING WHEN DR,PHIL SHOWED THESE TAPES.OH MY GOD OH MY GOD IS ALL I COULD SAY.CAN THESE DR'S STOP HER FROM HAVING KIDS AGAIN.GOD I HOPE SO.PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT THIS DISEASE IS.THIS LADY IS ONE SICK PUPPY.SHES NEEDS HELP NOT JAIL.DR.PHIL WOULD YOU PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT. KATHYWAYNE@SYMPATICO.CA THANK YOU

 

                    CUDDLES05

 

 
October 11, 2007, 12:45 pm CDT

A proxy

Quote From: dobikinz

My sister and I survived MSBP as children. It is like a childhood in the "twilight zone." For 20 years, our mother has denied what she did to us even in the face of our telling her that we were not sick. Even more painful than the abuse is the reaction of other family members who negate the harm and pressure us to basically stick to the family script.

My mother nearly killed me. I still fear that I'll become incompacitated and my mother will be allowed to visit my hospital room, charm the nursing staff, impress everyone with her competence and commitment as a parent and then kill me.

I would like to find an online support group for survivors of MSBP. I've always wanted to process some of my memories, but am not sure where to find someone who would really understand.
I am so sorry for you to have gone through this..what a great description "twilight zone".  Have you thought of seeing an attorney who can legally set someone as your proxy should anything ever happen to you as you have stated that you fear?  God forbid anything will ever happen like that but putting it into a legal health care document would surely put your mind at ease.  Best Wishes.
 
October 11, 2007, 1:09 pm CDT

Munchausen

Quote From: longwalker

Something could be done. Men who are serial rapists and child molesters have been sterilized so that they can no longer hurt anyone. That same concept can be applied to this woman.

no they are not sterilized they are given a chemical to cut off there sexual drive which is even rare to happen actaully its not as common as in TV shows. They are still able to have children. We all have the right to breed that what the prochoice movement has been about the right of choice over your body.

 
October 11, 2007, 1:10 pm CDT

SHE'S PREGNANT!!

OMG. THIS WOMAN TRACY IS PREGNANT AGAIN!!! HERE, LOOK AT THIS LINK. I AM HORRIFIED!!

 

http://www.thisisaberdeen.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=148760&command=displayContent&sourceNode=148586&contentPK=18543823&folderPk=85349&pNodeId=148317

 
October 11, 2007, 1:11 pm CDT

Is this disease passed down from generation to generation

 Does anyone know if this disease is passed down from generation from generation? I know someone who constantly complains of illness, her kids constantly complain about how sick they are and how sick their kids are......it makes me wonder.
 
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