Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

I THINK THAT FATHERS SHOULD PAY FOR THEIR OWN CHILD. BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT CASES TO ALL SITUATIONS. THE LAW MAY DO SOMEONE GOOD OR BAD THEN YOU NEED MONEY FOR ATTORNEYS THEN PAY ALL. I DO FEEL FOR THE CHILD THAT IS OLDER AND FINDS OUT BUT THERE IS A TIME TO TELL THE TRUTH AT ANY GIVEN TIME TO ALL THAT IS INVOLVED AND THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE DONE. THE WORLD IS GETTING SO BAD THAT MOST WOMEN LIE OR DONT KNOW WHOM THE FATHER IS THAT A DNA SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY DONE WHEN CHILDREN ARE BORN AND MOST PROBLEMS SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF THEN OR SOON AS POSSIBLE, IN MY CASE WAS AGREED UPON WITH NATURAL FATHER THEN FELL APART ANYWAYS SO THE CHILDREN DO GET HURT OVER ADULTS MAKING A WRONG CHOICE OR WHAT THE THOUGHT WAS RIGHT IN THEIR OWN HEART. BUT SOME CHILDREN WHEN TELLING WHEN YOUNG HAS ALOT TO THINK ABOUT AFTER THEY KNOW WHILE THEY ARE YOUNG SO YOU CAN HELP THEM THREW MOST OF IT, MONEY SHOULDNT BE THE OBJECT IN THIS CASE TODAY BUT SEEMS LIKE IT IS AND THAT IS SAD, LOVE ALL TIMES YOU HAVE WITH YOUR CHILD ...THEY ARE ALWAYS PRESIOUS WHEN BORN TELL THEY GROW OLDER AND LEARN FROM ALL AND YOU STILL HAVE THEM TO COME TO ASK YOU ABOUT ALL

I agree, the biological father should pay support, but have a question.  When should it start?  from birth?  from the time the DNA was done? Now?  When?

 

Also, as the "other" man he should be sued for "alienation of affection" (just kidding).  But kidding aside, he not only had an affair with a married woman, but fathered a child by her.  Everyone has suffered in this, except him--especially the child.  But who knows, he might feel very sorry that he has a child he doesn't know, and want to be in her life...  This would really complicate things, however... 

 

Eventually, I believe he should be contacted (maybe he saw this show) and the child should learn who he is.  She has a right to know who her biological father is.

 I was totally disgusted by the woman's attitude on the show or any other woman who thinks it is alright to trap a man into taking care of a child that is not his. How dare that tramp! I also didn't like your (Dr. Phil's) response and treatment toward  the man. There is no reason to try and make the man feel guilty because he chose not to continue to take care of the child. He owes the child nothing. You should have been making the mother feel guilty/bad because of her behavior. If he chooses to walk away, any pain that child suffers from that is totally the mother's fault. She is the sole reason the child is hurt, nobody else. The man is just as much a victim as the child is. I am advocating right now for everyone who feels this way to start a petition to have this law changed. This is absolutely ridiculous! Then to add insult to injury in some cases the man is even sent to jail because some nasty whore couldn't/wouldn't keep her legs closed. Unreal. I think not only should the man stop paying child support, the woman should be made to pay back every dime he ever paid to her.

I totally understand the mess this woman has created. I'm married to a man who supports and loves four kids and only two are his biological children. It is very hard to live from paycheck to paycheck, financially supporting children your husband didn't lay down to make, but was lied to, because the woman knew he was a good man and would handle his responsibilities. But years later  to find that the woman lied, and created a mess that seems to hard to even think of. The children and the family has no idea, but it rests on our hearts and pockets daily. Our biggest fear is that one day something will happen and our kids may find out by other means, maybe lifethreating means that he is not the father.

I'am a male and i went through the same things but worst, The laws must be changed. All everyone talks about is the welfare of the child. When i found out my daughter was 13 we had a beautiful relationship until the mother said something that made me think, So when i decided to do a dna test and i got the results i couldn't believe it, i was so hurt it took me 3 months to confront the mother about my information and i pleaded to her not to inform our daughter about the results. She said ok but once she made it home i was all these no good words and how can you do this after all this time, So i'am like you knew, Me and my daughter talked every week after that i left several messages on her phone letting her know that i was still going to be there in her life no matter what! But i had other kids that were mine now what i was being court ordered to pay like a criminal giving to her was talking away from my real children, I was arrested once for contempt of court because i moved and didn't inform the courts, enev though they were taking the money out of my check they couldn't come to my job. i was in jail like a criminal, when i went to court the judge dismissed the case because of this fact! We fault several times in court she never showed up but they continued the case if it was me bench warrant, they continued to let her play with the courts i went to court about 7 times were she never showed up. I can't get my money back but something needs to happen to stop this type of crime, My daughter and i are working on our relationship she's in college now we talk once a week again. Money is Evil

I completely disagree. A man that is lied to about fathering an infant that held the baby as his own "for one day" should be responsible for thousands of dollars for almost 20 years. NO WAY! Ignorance is not bliss-men have the right to know the truth, not be scammed into parenthood. But, your method would make it even easier to trap people.

Shame on these parents and the ex-husbands new spouse.  The person most hurt by all of this is Selina.  "Daddy" benefited from unconditional love, what does that cost!  Shame on mom, but that happened and now  he has to live with it.  For 13 years he was her father and now why should he pay for her?  Maybe because he loves her.  The child is the only one who spoke with sense in this case.  Dr. Phil, I hope you offered Selina help in dealing with this issue.  Tell the parents to mind their own business.  Daddy, needs to get a backbone and stand up to the new wife and put her in her place, which is out of this situation.

What kind of "parent" puts their child in this position.  Maria is the only one who committed fraud.  She knew when she had sex and then found out out she was pregnant what she was going to do.  She placed her beautiful, intelligent daughter in this situation.  And while Enrique did not handle the situation with his daughter as he should, you cannot really blame him.  Both he and Selina are victims!  But Maria continues to carry on this miscarriage of justice by blaming Mia.  Until Maria accepts the blame for all the hurt (to Selina) and for defrauding Enrique this will be a never ending waste of time.  Time lost for Enrique to try to repair the damage he caused with Selina and time lost for Selina to maybe have the man she called daddy enter back in her life and/or to know her biological father.  I agree women have done this since the dawn of man.  It puts the men in a very  tough position because he may not be aware that the child is not his.  Could the answer be to have a DNA test on all babies born?  Who knows but in the meantime there are precious children being caught in the middle!  Shame on you Maria!

 

I am outraged at what happened on the show today.  We all get "the child is the most important thing" in these situations, but I just don't understand how Gloria Allred can sit there and yell at Enrique as if the mother had nothing to do with this.  I don't agree with the way Enrique handled the situation with his daughter, but I definitely don't agree whatsoever with the mother!!!  I can't even remember her name she makes me so angry!  Anyways....For Gloria Allred to sit on that stage and say that paternity fraud isn't a big issue makes me want to physically fight her.  If I was in the audience I would have taken off my shoe and throw it at her.  ( Just for the record, I haven't really seen her speak before so these comments are not based on previous bias)  The way she presented herself today makes her look like an idiot and extremely one sided.  I come from parents that were divorced and my father was really bad about paying child support, but I still don't think men who were lied to about paternal responsibility  deserve to be punished for the woman's mistake/deception or  legitimate "dead beat" dads.  If the father finds out late in the game that his child is biologically not his he shouldn't have to pay child support to the mother.  It should be his decision from there on out to give the child personally what he finds appropriate but at least keep a relationship with the child because they are both in the same boat as far as dealing with the lying mother.

 

I hope to never see Gloria Allred on the Dr. Phil show again because she is a heinous representation for good values and women everywhere.

If all parties thought it was in the best interest of the child we wouldn't even be having this discussion. She committed fraud and if the DNA doesnt match (I don't care how long it takes) he should NOT BE RESPONSIBLE for her laying on her back with someone else. If she had thought about her child and been a good mother she would have not only contacted the real father of her child but also informed the man that she had been lying to that the child was not his. She (the mother) is not uncommon from many other women that want a free meal ticket. Instead what I think should happen is that she go to jail for fraud and her children be raised by someone that actually has some damn morals!