Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 3:48 pm PDT

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Hmmm...what I believe is that women like Maria are afraid to tell the men that their child isn't theirs, because they are afraid that he is going to leave her, & her family, & that's what I can understand on. It also happened with Frankie & Gwen a few weeks ago (just titled "Frankie & Gwen"). I also have to say that women like her aren't evil creatures. True, what she did was wrong, but probably has a good reason, & that women do bad things just as the men, but they're definitely not evil. No matter what bad things they have done, I would never degrade women, like calling them awful names & such, because they're totally disrespectful. I also think that the man should continue to be in her life, just because he's been in her life for so long. If I was in the man's situation, I would continue to be there for the child, & support him/her. Should DNA matter? Absolutely not.
I'm sorry but I think that is a really lame excuse to trap a man into staying with you. All it does is ruin the mans life and the child life even more. It is all the womans fault! If she would just tell the truth in the first place or better yet keep her pants on, then none of this would happen anyway. The man should be able to see the child without paying child support. The man can't just walk away from the child after so many years. If he can do that then he is no better than she is. The mother is the one that has done this to her own child not only the man. I know so many people say it takes a real man to stay for the child but it also takes a real woman to stand up and tell the truth in the beginning for her child. I have 3 children and could never imagine putting one of them through that. The woman should be the one to pay. The man shouldn't be punished for actually standing up and paying for a child he thought was truly his. He has already payed for years. The woman knows who the real father is go get the rest of the money from the real father.
 
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October 29, 2007, 3:48 pm PDT

Stone Ages!

     He was wrong to tell her in the park....frustration can be a bitch - but for the love of god please tell me we are beyond the times of blaming the men for everything. She a the the affair, she didn't tell him......she should take the brunt of the payments!
 
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October 29, 2007, 3:48 pm PDT

When did the Father Know?

If the problem is, when did the father know, I have a very straight forward solution. Require a DNA test for all births problem solved. Additionally I would have genetic material geathered at the birth of any child I was told that I might be the father.
 
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Anyone who believes what you wrote will buy the Brooklyn Bridge too!  Talk about lies, you are lieing to yourself!
I think the truth coming out is always the best.  If I had a new husband that had a kid that looked nothing like him or the mother, I might say something too.  It wasnt you that did bad, it was that whore ex wife that deceived him for YEARS! If you did it for money reasons, and only u know that, shame on you. I feel bad for this situation, and hope you adults can get your **it together!  He shouldnt be forced to pay child support, but helping her, and not the mother financially if possible would be big of him.
 
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I feel for the father however not nearly as much as I feel for the child.  I know it's tough for him to think it is the right thing to do in paying child support to her mother and ex-wife who deceived him but the most important thing here is the life of the child he helped raise and treated as though she was his.  After all if he had gone into this relationship knowing the child was not his and formed a bond with her would he not still be in the picture.  Speaking for myself as a man who loves his biological children but have also been involved in the past with a lady who brought a child into the relationship, I think he must look past the matter of child support, pay it and reconnect with the child he thought was his.

 

He may be looking at is as the principle of the matter should not have him paying and I don't disagree but he is hurting the young lady that I'm sure he does not want to hurt.  In addition his ex-wife will have to face a grander judgement than he could ever impose upon her.

 
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This show is so upsetting. I feel very bad for the little girl but what about Enrique? What about his emotional standing. This woman is such a pig. She has turned her daughter against Enrique. The little girl should be angry at her mother, this is not Enrique's fault.

I think a DNA test should only be mandatory only if the father/mother wants

their name on the child's birth certificate (both parents).

 

I also think the mother should be jailed (only - if she continues to pressure

this man to pay her for child support) and pay back any money that she

has receives.

 

 
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Quote From: paulalaison

When my son was 7 months old, I left his Dad. Before we went to court his lawyer was asking for a DNA. My lawyer adviced me that I did not need to do a DNA because the child was conceived during the marriage. However, I agreed to the DNA because I didn't won't his Dad to ever wonder especially since my son toke his looks from my side of the family. But proven that he was the father didn't really help. I do get child support but that has been cut down also and my son hasn't seen his Dad in four years because his Dad doesn't want to have anything to do with him. I agree with Dr. Phil when he says it's all about the child. My son still thinks his dad is a good guy because I don't tell him anything bad about him. One day my son will judge his father on his own, for now, keeping my child happy, healthy and loving is my only concern.
If only everyone dealt with these situations like you have.  Keeping the child's best interest at heart is the key to these situations.  It is not always easy to say nice things about the other parent, but it is what is best for the child.  I too have done this very thing and it is so hard to take the high road, but I keep my son's emotional health in mind.  Check out my posting called, Bond of Love is the Real Issue.  Should be up sometime soon, this respose will make more sense once you read that.
 
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October 29, 2007, 3:50 pm PDT

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This is a bad situation. I feel bad for all parties. A lie is never good. What happens in darkness always comes to light; Enrique was deceived, but what is done is done. You have to move on! The only focus should be on Selina. She has to know that what has happened is not her fault. As parents we must instill in our children good morals and values.  She is still young and has a chance to live a life that is free from what her adult counterparts have portrayed. I am praying for you Selina and family. Blessings in Jesus name!
What about the father?  He was lied to and established deep feelings for the little girl too.  I feel VERY sorry for the girl but don't act like the father wasn't damaged by the woman's deceit. 
 
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October 29, 2007, 3:50 pm PDT

GREAT IDEA

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just an idea, but for those who have to pay child support, i think the money should be placed into an account where the mother and father can see what exactly the  money is being spent on.  get a debit card for that savings account or checking and then the father can view online what  the money is being used for and for how much.  i.e food, clothes, victoria secret (just kidding---but you know it happens)  since he is the father he should get to be able to see what the money is used for he does at least have 50 per cent say so,

I AGREE 100% WAHT A GREAT IDEA.  i KNOW GIRLS WHO GET THEIR CHILD SUPPORT AND BLOW IT AT THE MALL ON THEMSELFS... OR THE NIGHT CLUBS.  THEY SHOULD HAVE TO SHOW HOW THEY SPEND THE MONEY... IT SHOULD BE 100% ON THE KIDS!
 
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October 29, 2007, 3:50 pm PDT

Wow!

Where do I start any time you are dealing with kids it is hard.  I was taken away from my family when I was 5 years old I was adopted into a good family at the age of 8.  I am 47 now I found out about 2 years ago that my biological father was not my dad.  My mother was having an affair. Every child has a right to know where they come from, they need to know so they can go forward.  There is a time and a place for everything.  adults need to realize kids do need to know but you need to pick your moment on when and how you tell them they do not have to have all the details.  As far as a man paying child support if the child is not his that isn't right either.  Women really make me mad sometimes because they are so manipulative.  They need to think more about the kids then they do themselves.    Think how they would feel.

Thank-you,

Rhonda

 

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