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Created on : Tuesday, November 20, 2007, 06:08:03 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/29/07) Obesity is a huge problem for adults in this country, but now it’s becoming an epidemic among young children. Barbra says her 3-year-old daughter started gaining weight at six months old and now weighs 80 pounds. Barbra and her aunt, Dana, are baffled by what they believe is a medical mystery because they say the little girl doesn't overeat. Dr. Phil brings in two medical experts to get to the bottom of this issue. Is Barbra contributing to her child's weight gain? Then, Tammy says she can’t change her family's eating habits. She's obese, her 11-year-old is 175 pounds and her 9-year-old is 136 pounds. Her sister, Debbie, says the boys portion sizes are too big and the family is just lazy. Can Dr. Phil get Tammy to stick to a nutrition plan? You won’t believe the surprise he has for her! Plus, Jessica says her mom, Angie, is blind to the health issues of her 351-pound sister, Jaleisa, who is only 15. Jessica says her mom never buys healthy food, and she fears her mom has Munchausen’s syndrome. Angie says she can’t monitor Jaleisa’s eating habits all day. Can Angie turn this situation around and save her daughter’s life, or is it too late? Talk about the show here.

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June 4, 2008, 2:50 pm PDT

06/04 Too Big, Too Young

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i am  22 years old, iam a single mother . my child is 3 years old . she is not yet over weight . but i weigh 331 lbs. iam trying to get my masters degree in nursing and i need help getting this weight off to better myself and set a better example for my child so thats she doesnt become overweight.dr.phil will you please help me. i would greatly appreciate it .
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June 4, 2008, 2:52 pm PDT

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I won't defend how this mother is dealing with this child but I have the PCOS ( polycystic ovarion disease ) and it is VERY hard to loose any weight I work out 3 to 4 times a week , I walk and eat right most of the time its a very hard disease to manage weight with and the mother is not helping from the looks of it . They should consider putting her on Metformin an oral insulin it is suppose to help with weight loss ( I tried it for 3 years ) but mine went 15 years before it was caught so mine is unable to be managed ... Its an auto immune disease and I feel for this child and yelling at the mother won't help , taking the child away so she suffers depression won't help .

 
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June 4, 2008, 2:52 pm PDT

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At one year old, my son was 32 lbs. Doctors said he was big, but that was nothing to worry about, he would grow out of it.
At 3 yrs old, he was 50 pounds, again his doctor said not to worry, that once he started school he would grow into his weight.
 I begain taking him to a nutritionist at 5 yrs old. At the beginning of Kindergarten, he weight 86 pounds, he went  in and had surgery to remove his tonsils and adenoids, within 6 weeks of the surgery, his weight was 113, by the end of Kindergarten, he was 135 (eating only what the nutritionist said to eat at home, and eating the school nutrition program for breakfast and lunch)
First grade came another surgery by the time Thanskgiving break rolled around. The end of first grade, I was so frustrated with the teasing and taunting he got (by then his weight was 155) that I decided we would homeschool his 2nd grade year. That summer we did "testing" (I really think they only tested for thyroid problems) with hus physician (his doctor finally said something other than "don't worry") and his tests came back normal.
   Now, my son is 10 yrs old. He is 195 pounds and going into 5th grade, he is 5 ft 2 inches tall and wears a size 10 1/2 men's shoe, his pant waist size is 40 inches, but wears 36-38 men's pants, the majority of his waist is above his hips, resembling more of a pregnant woman than someone who is "just fat"
Granted, he is large all over, his face is round and his stomach is larger than most women who are 8 months pregnant.
   I can not get a dr to run tests on him as we can not afford the out of pocket endocrinologist (his dr wouldn't refer him to the university hospital where the cost can be deferred)  and have tried multiple ways to look up (what I feel are symptoms, i.e. his stomach shape, size, his height, weight gain,etc...) online, but haven't found anything to help.

   I am a midwife and also a college student, I am obese and mine is due to the majority of my food being purchased in drive thru all hours of the night. That is not the case with our children, my two youngest children are considered the lower part of normal, at 3 & 5 yrs old and both under 36 pounds. At home and at the babysitter's they eat very little and most of the time healthy (occasionally, Mcd's or pizza)

anyone have any ideas as to where I could research the signs of symptoms of what my oldest is exhibiting?
Maybe your son has Momo desease like the other poster on here.  Research it online.  I'm so sorry your baby boy is suffering, I hope you can find him some help.  As for you, please love yourself enough to not go to drivethru's for your sustinance.   Clearly your sons health is stressing you out, but medicating your self with food will not help *his* situation.   I know you want to be there for your children.   If you don't stop hurting yourself, you won't be.     
 
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June 4, 2008, 2:56 pm PDT

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How dare you Dr. PHIL? The reason for these obese children is the food that is sold at supermarkets with chemicals added to make you hungrier and addicted to the food. Do not blame the mothers without first knowing what you talk about! It is not common knowledge no, nontheless I am so angry for the blame being placed on the mothers when the blame lies elsewhere ...the government that allows this!
 
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June 4, 2008, 2:57 pm PDT

ALCAT Food Sensitivity Test

This is a blood test I took about 9 years ago, because I was getting random stomache aches.  And now, whenever I have symptoms, I just need to think back to what foods were on my "avoid" and "eliminate" food lists and compare it with the ingredient lists in my foods and I usually have my answer.   I read about this test in a book entitled, "Your Hidden Food Allergies Are Making You Fat."  If I had an obese child, this would be one of the first things I would try.  It was a very interesting book and I would highly recommend this simple blood test. 

 

I know that it is difficult to control or even influence the teenage kids....but with the younger kids, perhaps the parents and grandparents could easily rotate the foods within the rules of the results of this test because eventually the younger kids will eat something healthy that is served to them and they would not have jobs and transportation to get the foods that their relatives didn't provide.

 

Best wishes to all who are struggling and especially with older kids.  I didn't have this problem with my daughter, but my heart really goes out to the parents and their kids.  I hope that the collective wisdom, suggestions, and options offered by reading this message board will prove to be encouraging and motivational.  Blessings to you all!

 
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June 4, 2008, 2:59 pm PDT

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Quote From: archiesmum

 Hunni, go back a few threads and read on my son archie i have posted a couple of links too ..

sarah x
Wasn't  your son Archie in a special on the Discovery Health channel? I saw that show!
 
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June 4, 2008, 3:00 pm PDT

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Quote From: tyler1

Your hunger level is no higher than the rest of us.    I suspect your level of hunger is *sometimes* too high because you wait too long to eat, because you think food is the enemy, so you try to avoid it as long as you can.     There's no reason to look in the fridge for something to *satisfy* you when you're not hungry.   Go *do* something that's actually satisfying instead of looking to food to give it to you.   Go for a bike ride, go skating, take your dog for a walk, do some gardening, go visit some friends, read a good book, learn something new, etc. 

 

The reason you were bitchy was because you were on a 1200 calorie a day *diet*.  Who said that was a good idea?   If you starve yourself and keep going on *diets* you will continue to fail.  You'll never get off the merry- go -round.    Make a commitment to moderation, stop dieting.  If you keep obsessing, naturally your daughter will too one day.   

Who said that was a good idea? Probably a diet company like Jenny Craig or Weight Watchers.
 
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June 4, 2008, 3:11 pm PDT

Obeasity and Advertising

Hello Dr Phil,

 

Watched your show today and I thought you were very effective. However, as soon as it was commercial break, I saw I-Hop with lots of pancacks and syrup and other sinful hi calorie food. I also saw a burger fast food clip and a Pizza advertisement. So it seems contridictory. Can't you control this? If not then how can you be separated from these sponsors?

 

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June 4, 2008, 3:15 pm PDT

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Quote From: fluffyfat

After all those readings I'm surprised you missed the word "if". I said "If it was easy for you, etc." I know it's easy for *some* people to maintain their weight because it was easy for me for 46 years. I weighed 110 at 5"5" and although I did jump rope every day for 20 minutes ( iactually like exercise) I ate what I liked. Then I quit smoking and gained 60 pounds while walking for an hour each day plus my usual work out. It happens. Nicotine raises metabolism and for SOME people the metabolic drop after quitting makes their caloric needs go way down. Your parents don't represent the whole world, the average person does gain weight after quiting nicotine.

You are so typical of the Weight Judges out there. If someone reports that exercise and healthy food doesn't make them lose you just accuse them of lying.

Doctors at Harvard have done some very interesting research the past few years, reported on a PBS special called "The Truth About Fat", proving that many people, particularly those who have been fat since childhood, simply don't lose weight like the rest of us. Their fat cells hang on to the fat even at very low calories and even if they exercise 3 or 4 hours a day. The old calories in/ calories out equation doesn't work for everyone either because their bodies simply learn to live on less and less calories until 800 calories a day becomes their maintenance amount.

Yes I do understand that everyone is different, because everyone has different metibolic rates.   And if the average person *does* gain weight after quitting smoking then they have to move more and eat less.    You've already explained it's simple mathmatics.  So one would need to apply it, wouldn't they?

 

I too have seen many shows on TLC, Discovery, PBS, etc on weight loss and obesity.  Doctors say what the patients say they're eating and how much they're eating is leaps and bounds away from what and how much they're actually eating.   And moving.  They say it's common for patients to lie and exagerate, because they don't want to be blamed.     Also the people you talk about on the PBS show are not most people.   Most people are obese because they have a lifestyle that supports it.    I'm sure it was wonderful being 110lbs at 5'5' till you were 46.   Since you're constantly defending being overweight,   I'm guessing you're no longer that size.   If walking each day and your *usual* workout didn't change anything, then you need to do something different.   But of course you know that. 

 
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June 4, 2008, 3:19 pm PDT

Another Issue in this childs obesity

Quite Surprised - Doctor Phil missed important Issue

 

I have watched the Dr Phil show for a number of years and have always sided with his observations and recommendations....however on todays show - overweight teens - I was surprised that he did not pick up on the fact that the mother may be living her life vicariously  through her daughter....the mother was suffering on the show (I believe the family unit is being influenced because of the mothers issues) IE where is the father...what is there financial situation etc....The mother was hurting and Doctor Phil seemed to not pick up on that fact - which is not like him to miss the obvious...I think the mother has her own issues and it should be brought to light...She may be punishing this child or giving it all to this child due to a failed relationship with the Father???I don't know and I can only speculate on the mothers issue(s) - but Doctor Phil did not acknowledge her pain - deal with the matriarch and you invariably you will heal the family unit.

 

Sincerely,

 

JimB

 
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