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(Original Air Date: 02/13/08) When people think of sexual predators, they often envision a pervert wearing a trench coat walking the streets. But research shows that a family friend, helper or relative is often the person who victimizes innocent children. Heidi was sexually molested by her stepfather, John, for 12 years. Her mother, Susan, knew it was happening because she walked in on an attack when Heidi was 9, but she stayed with her husband for years after, even as the molestation continued. When Dr. Phil confronts Susan, will she apologize to her daughter? After two decades and years of mental anguish, will Heidi receive answers from her mother? The sparks fly as mother and daughter go head to head. Will they heal their wounds and reunite? Then, the man who Heidi accused of molesting her joins the show. Find out what he reveals and why Dr. Phil doesn't believe him. And, why does Heidi say she has more respect for her abuser than her mother? The twists and turns in this story will shock you. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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July 24, 2008, 1:02 pm PDT

Recently happen to our family, two years back.

Dr. Philp:  This recently happen in my family where the father molested his daughter since she was seven years of age.  The mother, my sister, knew about it and did nothing.  At the age of fourteen my neice broke down in school one day talking to her friend that her father had been doing things to her though this time, last night penetrated her.  From this conversation (crying) a teacher heard the conversation and thing took on a life from there.  Now, two years later, I am very concern about my neice, now 16 in August.  The mother does not let her speak with any one in the family.  Then if we do see her, no one wants to bring that part of her life up.  I'm not sure if, not talking about isn't making thing worst for her.  Like we do not care, when we do.  I do know that when her father's birthday came around the mother made her go to dinner with the 4 person family, to see him.  I know she did not want to do this.  There is nothing I can do until my meice reaches 18 years of age.  Then I can make attempts to see her personally.  She also has a twin brother that knew about these happenings, try to tell the mother, that looked the other way.  My nephew has been brain washed my my sister to stay away from the family that we were only trouble.   I'm thinking that my neice is the one that will be in trouble.  If its not too late now?

 

 

 
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July 24, 2008, 1:04 pm PDT

Not in jail?

 Why isn't this "John" in jail? I think Heidi should have him arrested NOW. What is up with that? Why isn't he in jail? He is probably abusing someone right now.
 
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July 24, 2008, 1:07 pm PDT

07/24 Behind Closed Doors

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I need to know what to do about the men who abused me for years growing up. They are all still out there. My brother was first. I knew what a male body looked like before I knew who "Barbie" was. I believed what he told me. My parents were divorced when I was 4, and I was the baby. This brother is 10 years older than me. Of course, I wasn't his first or last. We have talked about it, and he said (quote)" I didn't think I could find anyone as pretty as you. " What the hell does that mean?? I was a baby. I told my older sister what was happening one night when we were staying at our grandparents. I was 5 or 6ish. The minute I asked her if I could tell her a secret, she knew. He tried with her, but she was old enough to push him off. I didn't want mom to know about it because my brother said she would leave me. He said that mom would never believe he could do it, and that mom would get mad at me and I would be taken from home. I kept quiet until I just had to tell my sister. She made me go tell mom and said she'd be there with me. I finally told mom. As soon as she turned around, I felt the sting of her hand on my face. I was sent to my room without supper. Finally, my sister told mom that I wasn't lying because it happened to her. My mom started taking me to a babysitter to keep me safe. This lady was so 'sweet' mom said. She played the piano in our church and her house was directly behind her place of employment. She and this woman had been good friends, and she had two good sons and two 'slow' girls. Well, it doesn't take long for a pediphile to 'pick up' the scent of a victim. I swear he knew I was already weak because it didn't take long for him to start playing with me. He was about 16ish. I have a lot of missing pieces from my memory, thank God. He was different than my brother. He would physically hurt me if I didn't comply. My brother just bought me the things that my mom couldn't afford on her meager salary. No, I was afraid of the son. Well, that is, until the 2nd son came into the picture. I struck a deal with him. I could earn my safety, which I did. The older brother didn't mess with me because the youngest one protected me. Hesitantly, I told my mom that they were doing stuff like my brother was. She called her friend over to the window of the car and said that I wouldn't be coming back. Her friend asked why, and all mom said was that her 2 sons can tell her why I wasn't coming back. That was that. No conversation, no babysitter, no attempts to make things right. Life moved on. As a teen, I asked many times to go to counceling because I was being torn apart inside. The only protection I ever had was found under the branches of the old over-grown pine tree's brances. I would wait for mom to come pick me up. I discovered that if you climb in really close to the base of the tree, there is a lot of room to make your own little fortress. That was the last time I felt safe. My mom let me stay at home alone after that.

 

I bring all of this to you for one reason only - each one of these men hold positions of authority, and I know that each of these men have hurt others after me. My greatest concern is the oldest son. I recently saw this mother in the gas station parking lot in town and exchanged a few niceties. I showed her a picture of my daughter, and asked about her kids. Her oldest son is a state trooper who workes on the middle school campus of a school in Syracuse. Everything in my body deflated. I asked her then if she ever knew why my mom took me out of her care. She was puzzled, so I asked her again. She was silent....dead silent. She finally replied in a profound way - "WHICH ONE?"  I said, BOTH. She just stared at me. Then she said it was probably a good thing that he didn't have any kids. I didn't have anything to lose, so I asked her where she was at that time, and she said she didn't know. She said she was there...she just couldn't remember where. She kept saying she was sorry, and I just thanked her for standing with me long enough to ask some questions that had hurt for so long. I went home and fell to pieces. My God, she knew!  My mother never breathed a word of it to her. Mom didn't want to hurt her feelings. But, the mother knew exactly what I was referring to, and spoke with me as if she was reading a lunch menu.

 

Dr Phil - I know you are an advocate for children. I have felt so guilty for so long for never taking action. I can only hope that you hear me and believe me enough to get these guys off of our streets - and out of our school! Since you have private investigaters, I thought you may be able to find out if these guys are still endangering other children. Can you put my mind at ease and check into this? Contacting you is the only way I can take action and try to keep others safe from them. Will you do this...please?

This is the message boards for debating the issues of todays show, You need to click on contact Dr. Phil that is above . Good luck to you, I hope they are not hurting anyone else, but that is most likely not true.
 
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July 24, 2008, 1:15 pm PDT

07/24 Behind Closed Doors

please tell me that,that man was reported by either Dr Phil or someone else on his staff ,because if you (Dr Phil)say that you truly do not believe what he is saying, plus that you have information on others, how can you not give that information to the authorities,would'nt you be just as quilty as the mother on the show? He himself said that he is a pedifile. that's just my opinion.

For the family on the show I truly hope they can work through this.

 
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July 24, 2008, 1:17 pm PDT

will the abuser be punished

i really feel that the abuser should not have had the luxury of being hidden. This is one of the worst crimes that can be committed and they are the lowest type of criminals. What happened to him after the show. He said she was curious... that is baloney.. This does not justify the mother. She was supposed to protect her child from this monster. I hope he gets prosecuted or at least make sure he is followed up as a child molester.
 
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July 24, 2008, 1:19 pm PDT

Kindness

A part of kindness consist in loving people more than they deserve.

 

There is no way  to right the tragic wrong that occurred with this family.  As a teacher I watch the eyes of young hurt children each day and try so hard to teach each one that kindness and forgiveness will set them free from pain.  Parents are humans and humans make mistakes.  Your mother made a horrific mistake and it cost you your childhood. Your stepfather should be in prison.   I am SHOCKED that the Dr. Phil show did not do more to see that he does not hurt any child again, but that is for Dr. Phil to live with.  

Do not allow your adulthood to be taken away by this evil man too.  Your mother made a mistake ... as all mothers do .. you are making one too by hanging on to the past. It is often easier to let go than hang on.....  forgive ... and love yourself again... then you will be able to love others as they deserve.

 

 

 
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July 24, 2008, 1:20 pm PDT

My heart goes out to the daughter...

How in Gods name can a mother stay with a man that did this.

The 1st thing I would have did was call the Police...and then I would have been gone if there was nothing for me where I was.

The mother is just coming up with a bunch of BS to cover her own butt so that she could have a man in her life.

Never in my life would any man come before my kids...there in no man worth my kids.

The "mother" doesn't deserve to be called a mother....she should be locked up for allowing this to happen then staying and allowing it to go on...

I am just sick about this and the show has only been on for 22 min.

I want to hug the daughter and spit on the mother.

Dr Phil thank you for helping...you are great.

 

 
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July 24, 2008, 1:22 pm PDT

The Mother is crazy

How could she say all this. This woman is selfish. She was only thinking of herself.

When I caught my ex-husband doing the same thing to my daughter I looked for a gun. If my Father would have been home, I would have killed my that night. You have to protect your children. They have no one else but you.

I had to break the cycle. My ex-Mother-in law covered for her husband and expected me to do the same with her son. 

 
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July 24, 2008, 1:24 pm PDT

from another generation

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We are not alone Patricia....there are thousands of us.

My mother knew all along and did nothing also.  I convinced myself that it was because of having kids to feed alone if she 'did something'.  I developed MPD as a way to cope.  By the time he was arrested, there were 7 of us and my siblings were told "SHE wanted your father and I wouldn't give him up so she lied and had him taken away from us".  They believed that for MANY years.  It was very painful but eventually, they realized on their own what the 'truth' was.  They had their own 'flashbacks' and problems with drugs and alcohol.  Even though they were young, how could they (forever) forget the night he was arrested?  Caught in the act by aunts and uncles that came to visit (thanks to a call from me), me tied to the bed, police arriving with the flashing lights?  He never abused his own kids (I was a step-daughter), but because of the arrest and him going to prison, they lived their own hell.  Being the 'cause', I couldn't help them.

 

I 'divorced' myself from my 'mother' about 30 years ago (best thing I ever did for me).  I am the oldest of the brood, but have no real 'relationship' with my siblings.  None of us have a sense of 'family'.  We 'try' but for some reason, it just doesn't work.  We feel more like strangers at family funerals (about the only time we see each other).  Each of us focus on our immediate family, work hard and leave the past (and each other) 'in the past'.  When they see me, it brings back painful memories and makes me grieve for ever being born.  I finally realized the best thing I can do for them is to stay away....not hard to do since we all live in different states.  Some of them don't understand why I divorced myself from our 'mother' and I can't explain.  I am the only child from my father (he died) and feel soooo 'alone' in the world of my 'family'.

 

The multitude of issues surrounding incest go beyond most folks imagination.  Even with a show like this, I doubt most folks will ever understand the damage that is done.  I watch Dr. Phil EVERY day, but I'm not sure I can watch THIS show! 

 

I am 56, have 2 children and 2 grandchildren.  You are NOT ALONE Patricia, I understand!  I sometimes wonder about 'our generation' as it seems much more prevalent in our age group.

 

Good luck to you,

Sunny         

The same thing happened with me.  I was the only step-daughter and thus the only victim.  But my abuser was never caught "red-handed" and no one wanted to take my word for it.  My mom and sister still live every day like my step-father was a saint even though they were both told what he did to me.  The only reason why I have not "divorced" my mother is because it has taken me years to wake up and quit letting my family emotionally rape me every day and now I have children who are very close to my mother.  The man has been dead for a while now and there is no longer a threat from him.  But I carry the pain every day and I don't know how to cope with it.  I have tried to confront my mother but she went crazy for several days and threatened to commit suicide because I thought she was such a "bad" mother.  The rest of my family doesn't know about my abuse.  I have very harsh memories of being made fun of by older family members for being a crybaby.  I don't want to play the victim role but I am so angry and hurt by the fact that my life was screwed up but it's somehow my fault in my mother's eyes.  I could go on forever but I think I'm done venting for now. 
 
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July 24, 2008, 1:28 pm PDT

child sexual abuse... this mother is typical

 
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