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Created on : Friday, February 08, 2008, 12:23:31 pm

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(Original Air Date: 02/14/08) When you get married, you look forward to a life filled with love, happiness and security. But what do you do if you find out your spouse has been telling you lies and is someone completely different than the person you thought you knew? Elizabeth says her husband of three years, Matt, is a pathological liar, a con man and an alcoholic. She says he has lied about everything from what he does for a living to dying of cancer so that she would marry him. Matt says Elizabeth is a sociopath, and he accuses her of molesting her 12-year-old son. When Dr. Phil interrogates them with tough questions, will the truth come out? In an effort to sift through the mudslinging and get to the truth, Matt and Elizabeth agree to take a lie detector test. One of the two was deceitful in answering every question. Find out who. Next, hear from Randy and Rhonda, a couple who took Matt in and are caring for him because they believe he may be living the last phase of his life. Will Matt's shocking statements change their view of him? Dr. Phil has a strong warning for this couple. Then, Matt and Elizabeth are currently separated and negotiating custody of their two young daughters. See the argument that ensues outside the courthouse when Elizabeth accuses Matt of sleeping in the same bed with Rhonda. And, what shocking statement does Matt make about his daughters? Join the discussion.

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noelleinnh

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July 21, 2008, 6:02 pm PDT

I cannot believe this husband!!

It was easy to tell there was something wrong with this guy to begin with. I hope his wife gets rid of him and does not allow him to be with those children until he gets help. It was obvious from the beginning he was lying through his teeth. How horrible for her and those children. I'm not easily angered, but, this guy just got me. What a true piece of crap he is.

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cagedbird

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July 21, 2008, 6:04 pm PDT

I'll tell you why...

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I agree that anyone in your situation should leave if they can, but apparently you can't. Why? You say you can't live like this anymore and I totally agree with you (nobody should) so start making plans, engage some friends or family members to help you come up with a workable solution. Life doesn't have to be so miserable and you deserve better. please get going!

Being abused takes a toll on a woman mentally. Try to understand that the person they love is inflicting great physical and emotional harm each time they wake up. When you are in an abusive situation, you may even dread going home at night because you know it's coming-you can feel it. Then the abusers usually isolate their victims from friends and family, or they have been burned out on the whole relationship from seeing their loved one getting hurt. These guys make their partners feel as though the only person in the world that loves them is the person hurting them and that no one will believe them even if they did report the abuse...also, the death threats and feeling like there isn't any where far enough to go that the abuser can't get to them anymore is a hard one to deal with. It's much more complicated than people seem to think.

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flthomcat

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July 21, 2008, 6:10 pm PDT

Polygraphs are a SUPER tool

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The reason that lie detector's aren't admissable in court is because they aren't as reliable as most people believe. Although many believe their accuracy to be in the range of 90 to 95 percent, their true range of accuracy falls to about 63 percent.

Polygraphs measure physiological responses: blood pressure, pulse, respiration and skin conductivity.

If a person is normally nervous or anxious and takes the test, their results will be inconclusive because the graph will go all over the place. On the flip side, if a person is relaxed and calm when taking a polygraph, their test results will more often than not show as truthful, even if they are horrendous liars.

This Matt guy certainly gives the impression that maintaining a modicum of calm during one of these tests wouldn't be difficult...I really feel for Elizabeth and those poor people that he's conning.

People like Matt feel nothing for people other than themselves, so in the long run perhaps it would be best for their children to have little to no contact with him. Can you imagine having to deal with a father like that on a daily basis? I do hope that this all works out best for the children in the end, because they are the ones who suffer the most in the end.

http://www.polygraph.org/validity-research

Your accuracy statistics are not correct. Not only is the accuracy rate MUCH higher than 63%, the accuracy is much higher when the test is administered by a highly qualified expert (such as the one Dr. Phil used). Additonally, an inconclusive reading does not count as a lie AND polygraphs can be taken more than once by a person. Should that person fail the test both times, the likelihood of false readings is not worth mentioning.

The lie detector test is a GREAT TOOL in investigations, but it is simply ONE TEST. It should never be used alone to determine guilt or innocence.

My own cousin, a compulsive liar, took a polygraph test and the resuls were "inconclusive," even though he lied his butt off. Any sociopath who does not believe he has done anything wrong could very possibly pass the polygraph, especally if it were administered by a less-than-qualifed examiner.

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jamien

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July 21, 2008, 6:12 pm PDT

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If Matt is indeed a pathological liar, does that mean he could possibly pass the lie detector test and still be lying? I mean, if he always lies, maybe he has come to believe himself to be telling the truth.

Yes, this man believes his lies are truth. He's probably been doing this his entire life. A survival tool from childhood. If I say what you want to hear, you'll still love me, right? I really have to question the wife's judgement. I met my husband on line years ago, everything's fine. But, he didn't tell me was a multi-millionaire, lost the the keys to his house so we couldn't enter, we didn't spend the weekend in my car, etc. Where was this woman's head at?

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PennyLane78

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July 21, 2008, 6:14 pm PDT

07/21 Lies and Betrayal

That is one of the creepiest things I've ever seen...wow...

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canyouhandleit

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July 21, 2008, 6:15 pm PDT

Wow, this guy is a joke!!!!!

I felt like i wanted to strangle the guy thru the television. Obviously he's a pathelogical liar, he doesn't even know the truth about his own self!

I feel bad for his ex-wife and the couple he has manipulated and taked advantage of . The more he talked on the show the worse he made himself look.

His kids dont need him around. He would just pull them into his web of deception.

The only thing i have to criticize his ex about it, where's her common sense? She should've been glad that he offered to give her full custody and vanish from her life. I would've been relieved, that is if he has followed thru with it.

What else is there to say!

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PennyLane78

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July 21, 2008, 6:16 pm PDT

07/21 Lies and Betrayal

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Well, this guy is awful. I met my husband online and can tell everyone DO NOT MARRY SOMEONE YOU MET ONLINE!

Everything about this guy is messed up..........

I married a man I met online and we've been very happy for over 9 years now. Not everyone online is a pathological liar.

Just as in life, you have to be SMART about who you have relationships with. To taint the online world as poison is ridiculous. Put the blame where it SHOULD go, on you and your husband.

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suncerae7

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July 21, 2008, 6:24 pm PDT

right on!!!

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I'm bringing this forward because if it makes just one woman think before she falls into a trap, then it will have been worth the time it took to write it.

I doubt very much with 3 babies that I have as a single mom and you get involved with a man which i plan on never doing again after my last relationship, that yes you should use the internet to check them out. after my little baby accused my x of sexually abusing her I ran a check on him on the internet and founf out that he lied about his birthdate and his age was 10 years younger than what he said. now if I had done that in the beginning I probably would not have the 3 babies that I have because I would have ended it but from now on anyone that comes in close contact with your kids you have to have them checked out., today, in these times, noone can be trusted. this is an evil world with evil people every where just waiting to hurt you or your children. kudos for you and your comment

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gramma147

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July 21, 2008, 6:45 pm PDT

07/21 Lies and Betrayal

I felt truly saddened in my heart for this woman and those children. It doesn't take a genious to figure out that there is something definatly very wrong with this man.When I watched this show I actually felt fear for this woman and her daughters.Matt showed absolutly no emotion.He seemed very cold. I usually don't worry about things that are not my business,but I think that Elizabeth should pack up her children and distance herself as far as she can,as fast as she can! I truly hope things work out for her and her family.

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tazdevil0722

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July 21, 2008, 7:18 pm PDT

07/21 Lies and Betrayal

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I married a man I met online and we've been very happy for over 9 years now. Not everyone online is a pathological liar.

Just as in life, you have to be SMART about who you have relationships with. To taint the online world as poison is ridiculous. Put the blame where it SHOULD go, on you and your husband.

I, too, married a man i met online and we've been happily together for almost 10 years and married for 4 of those years. In addition to myself, my husband's best friend and my brother both met their wives online and are happy as clams. I do agree that there are lairs online, but not everyone is.

I also agree that people should be smart about it and not rush into anything. If you rush into it, then you have no one to blame but yourselves.

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