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Topic : 07/21 Lies and Betrayal

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Created on : Friday, February 08, 2008, 12:23:31 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/14/08) When you get married, you look forward to a life filled with love, happiness and security. But what do you do if you find out your spouse has been telling you lies and is someone completely different than the person you thought you knew? Elizabeth says her husband of three years, Matt, is a pathological liar, a con man and an alcoholic. She says he has lied about everything from what he does for a living to dying of cancer so that she would marry him. Matt says Elizabeth is a sociopath, and he accuses her of molesting her 12-year-old son. When Dr. Phil interrogates them with tough questions, will the truth come out? In an effort to sift through the mudslinging and get to the truth, Matt and Elizabeth agree to take a lie detector test. One of the two was deceitful in answering every question. Find out who. Next, hear from Randy and Rhonda, a couple who took Matt in and are caring for him because they believe he may be living the last phase of his life. Will Matt's shocking statements change their view of him? Dr. Phil has a strong warning for this couple. Then, Matt and Elizabeth are currently separated and negotiating custody of their two young daughters. See the argument that ensues outside the courthouse when Elizabeth accuses Matt of sleeping in the same bed with Rhonda. And, what shocking statement does Matt make about his daughters? Join the discussion.

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July 22, 2008, 7:29 am PDT

Worried about Elizabeth & Family!

 

Dr. Phil-

If you read this board...we really need an update on this couple!

 

I had not seen this show the first time it aired, and I have to say that it has been a long time since I've seen such a cold, calculating user like Elizabeth's  (hopefully EX) husband Matthew.

 

I think your asking him if he'd been drinking in the beginning of the interview was a good one...I think he was either drunk or high that day, and he even slurred is words at times.

 

I was not at all surprised that he failed the polygraph test!

 

Elizabeth, her son and her girls are much better off without him!  He really showed his true colors on the stage, and when he disowned his own girls at the end of the show, it was another way to control his wife emotionally, and avoid responsibility in owning up to his lies..  He had no shame whatsoever, is obviously delusional, and really is a dangerous man, I believe!

 

I really hope by now that Elizabeth has moved far away from him, and started a new life.  He was not worth the tears she shed that day on the program!!

 

She and her children are much better off without him!

 

Please do an update on this one when you can.  From the many replies on the boards here, you can see many of us are very concerned for her and the children!

 
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July 22, 2008, 7:29 am PDT

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Exactly how did the husband end up on the show? Why did Dr. Phil get out of his chair? It was so weird, and it felt like a lot was edited out.

On shows like this, I can never figure out why the authorities are not contacted so that folks can be sent to jail, or at the very least investigated for fraud.
i was wandering the she thing  i thank matt is alier
 
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July 22, 2008, 7:33 am PDT

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It was easy to tell there was something wrong with this guy to begin with.  I hope his wife gets rid of him and does not allow him to be with those children until he gets help.  It was obvious from the beginning he was lying  through his teeth.  How horrible for her and those children.  I'm not easily angered, but, this guy just got me.  What a true piece of crap he is. 

i agee with you hes a bad husbend and dad
 
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July 22, 2008, 7:58 am PDT

Hello waihini1

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OMG! This subject is near to me and my home.

I too married the grand faker- he did all the "right things" when we met, dated, were engaged and the first year to almost 2 yrs we were married, then close to our 2nd anniversary, he warped into someone I didn't recognize. He became distant and cold towards me, all romance halted except for the sex, of course he still wanted that (back then anyway, not now). All the cards he sent, be it ecards or real ones stopped, he didn't want to take me on 3 vacations a year, but now it was down to ONE and it was always some place HE wanted to go, I had no say in it. I found various "clues" that pointed toward him cheating but never could really prove it totally, it was just an insidious feeling that hung in the air between us.

He has his own cell phone and got calls in the middle of the night, one time I got into his voice mail and found some female voice left a message that said, hey sexy, I miss you call me soon. I confronted him about this message and he claimed he had NO idea who that was and no he wasn't cheating, BUT from that time on he made damn sure he turned his phone off at night, hid it from me and if it was visible he deleted all the call history on it, so I didn't see who he was calling or who was calling him.

I have tried over and over to communicate with him about problems that I see we have, tried to get him to counseling with me too (he went one time then refused to go again as "he didn't have any problems and didn't need to go". Each time I tried to tell him of my unhappiness, he would turn things around on me, and make it sound like I was crazy or he would get mad and tell me he is going to divorce me. This has been going on now for almost THREE yrs. I cannot keep living like this, this man behaves like he hates me not loves me- he ignores me most of the time he is home, the other times he acts all nice nice so he can manipulate me into giving him sex once a month! I am not allowed to see my family and have to spend time with his family constantly- they come first in his life, always will and I am not considered part of this family unit, nor are my children or grandchildren by this man

All I can say to you is leave if you can as things will only get worse and you will only get more and more unhappy.

I  read  your  post   waihini1  ,  and  Im  certian  that  you  must  be  certian  that  you  watched  the  Dr. Phil  show  ,  and  it  could  be  a  defineing  moment  in  your  own  life .  Maybe  a  wake  up  call  for  you  waihini1 .  There  is  one  thing  for  certian  in  life ,  we  as  people  can  not  change  other  people  or  what  they  do  ,  all  we  can  really  change  is  our  own  selves.  You  do  not  have  to  be ,  and  are  not  obligated  to  remain  sensitive  to  a  man  who  is  obviously  takeing  great  advantage  of  the  fact  you  may  care  deeply  for  him  ,and  he  may  care  nothing  at  all  about  you .  Actions  waihini1  speaks  volumes  about   people . Turn  waihini1  toward  your  own  family  and  closest  of  friends  , you  are  not  obligated  to  meet  any  of  this  mans  wants  or  needs  period .  Three  years  of  your  life  is  long  enough  ,  to  long  actually  .  Your  most  positive  options  in  life  is  to  do  for  YOU  now  and  for  your  children  what  you  have  to  do  .  Trying  to  reason  with  the  total  unreasonable  is  fruitless  ,  it  most  likely  would  be  a  waste  of  your  time  to  attempt  to  get  your  husband  to  give  you  the  answers  you  need  or  want  .  You  can  take  back  your  life  in  one  day  from  this  man  who  has  obviously  stepped  on  you  as  if  you  are  just  there  to  be  used  like  a  stepping  stone . Break  Free  and  give  yourself  permission  to  reclaim  your  freedom  turn  toward  home  waihini1  toward  the  people  in  your  life  who  you  know  love  you  and  will  help  you  serve  your  own  best  intrest  and  your  children  .  Your  far  more valuable    in  life  waihini1   than  u  know .  Choose  wisely  and  choose  life  and  choose  to  value  yours  and  your  children  it  is  a  decision  you  can  make  , as  painful  as  it  may  be  ,  remember  in  the  hard  days  one  truth  to  remind  yourself  to  say  with  hope  dignity  and  faith  ,  " THIS  TOO  SHALL  PASS  "     good  things  are  not  always  easy  , but  one  thing  is  certian  ,  you  have  the  strength  to  choose  right  things   for  right  reasons  and  have  no  regrets  about  it  .   Your  intiution  is  your  higher  guide  waihini1   listen   to  it  .  All  your  senses  can  make  a  comeback  be  strong  and  be  a  survivor   live  life  for  the  gift  that  it  is  yours  is  precious  and  so  is  your  childrens  , I  wish  u  the  greatest  of  blessings  and  good  things  in  life  to  come  . All  pain  and  suffering  is  for  the  moment  just  to  learn  by  grow  by  and  go  up  and  on  to  the  next  level  in  life   ,  step up    precise  quick  and  to  the  point  . You  have  the  right  to  claim  your  life  and  live  it   and  not  allow  anything  or  anyone  to  destroy  you  ,  let  it  be  his  bad  and  let  him  keep  his  bad  ,  you  dont  have  to  accept  it  or  live  it  ,  your  choices  can  free  you  from  the  unequally  yoked  bondage  you  live  in  .  It  is  my  heartfelt  hope  that  you  will  break  free  from  it  and  all  that  hurts  will  pass  quickly  and  you  will  live  a  blessed  future  life  and  be  much loved  .  Best  and  greatest  wishes  for  you  WAIHINI1  
 
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July 22, 2008, 9:24 am PDT

It's all to familiar

First of all you don't get married 3 months after meeting someone especially on the internet.  Second of all, you married a conman from hell. He's trying to make you think you are crazy and you are not.  I feel so much for you.  He's a cheat, liar, and needs medical attention, better yet, kick him off the earth. Who in god's name does he think he is?  He's got everyone believing him and turning your friends and family against you. If the courts give him custody your precious children prepare for the biggest nigthmare of your entire life.  Do not let him touch your children or even be alone with them for one second.  He's a Nightmare in your life.  Please just roll with the punches knowing that you are right and he's so so wrong. I wanted to slap the hell out of him lastnight.  He sleeps with the other couple? Get real.  I am surprised he hasn't tried to kill them. He's lied that his father died 3 weeks ago then said his attorney told him not to talk about it?  Get real.  His attorney is a quack as well.  Please "sister" get out of there and take those darling children with you. There is absolutely nothing wrong with you.  You must made a bad mistake in your life of marrying a physco.  He's the looser, your the WINNER for getting out and starting over. You can do it.  I did it.  Mine was a control freak and wanted to know everything I did, including telling me what to wear.  Take the kids, tell the police exactly where you are going and what you plan on doing. Stay with mom and dad.  Close the childrens ears so they do not hear the hatred.  Stop crying and be happy that this isn't worse.  Get moving now. Time is waisting away.  Do not let me know a thing about you, not where you live etc. It's all top secret now. Trust me, it's for the best.  I know. 
 
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July 22, 2008, 9:24 am PDT

Good grief!

7-22 - Tuesday...  I could not believe that man yesterday!?  Just my opinion... he has a mega problem!   Appears he lives in his own world...?  She may have problems too, but she is also mega stressed out over the whole ordeal.  I say "count your blessings" - if he's truly out of your life - and your children's life.  Personally, father or not, I wouldn't want him around my children.....  He said he's "out of their life" except for child support and that's the way it should be at this time. 
 
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July 22, 2008, 10:55 am PDT

lies and betrayal

I was sick after I watched this show--this is MY husband. I literally had an  panic attact and almost vomited.  Mine took a lie detector test " Lied his a** off" AND passed! Now what does that mean? And does this guy on Dr. Phil have a DX I would really like to know.
 
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July 22, 2008, 1:28 pm PDT

Admiration!

Doctor Phil showed so much of his abilities to conquer this man with the smug attitude! I was so floored with the behavior of this indidual I wanted to reach through and choke him! I have never been so outraged watching this show up until July 21st. The disreguard and lack of respect towards Doctor Phil left me seething!!!. I had to take a long walk to calm down.

I commend our Dr. Phil for his enormous amount of patience and laying it out on the line. My daughter looked at me and we were thinking the same thing...we hoped that Dr. Phil would go for a soothing massage, maybe a QUIET? dinner with Robin and try to put this episode behind him..

 

We love you Dr. Phil and admire your strengths especially with the arrogant and disturbed people such as this.

 

Linda

 
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July 22, 2008, 2:02 pm PDT

The Liar is the minor part of the problem.

Matt is one guy, one liar.  He's a problem but the worse problem is the three gullible people who apparently have no BS alarm whatsoever.

Matt and others like him continue lying BECAUSE IT WORKS.

I've known a couple of men very much like Matt and both had multiple good women who swallowed obvious lies like he was handing out chocolates.

So for all you posters who have been victimized by people like Matt; forget fixing him, fix yourselves because it's been my experience that gullible people keep falling for the same type men over and over.
 
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July 22, 2008, 2:20 pm PDT

desperate for a man

The only people I feel sorry for are the children.

This woman married a man she met online after 3 months...now she is paying the the price for her bad

decisions...If he lies and mistreats her he will do the same to their daughters...so is best he does give up parental rights...those girls don't need a father like that...he doesn't love them or himself... and she needs to move on and stop being so desperate for a man. 

 
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