Topic : 07/21 Lies and Betrayal

Wow. Wow. Wa-how.

27 hours later, and I'm still stunned.

It's amazing how much you see, especially on Dr. Phil, accusations of people being "pathological liars" - often because they lied just once or twice. It's a good thing that Dr. Phil gave us this show, so that we could see what a real pathological liar looks like.

He kept lying, even when it was obvious that he was going to be caught out. And then, when he was caught out, he responded by trying to turn the tables. And then when Dr. Phil wouldn't let him do that, he threw a hissy fit. That is, of course, what he did when he said he wasn't interested in his children anymore - he was throwing a hissy fit.

Kudos to Dr. Phil for not giving into the abuse he received. And for not letting Matt steer the conversation in the direction he wanted to go. It's hardly in those kids' best interest to allow their dad to continue to slander their mom on national television.

I felt so sorry for Elizabeth. She'd obviously been through so much. Forget the slander and the custody battles, we could see a really good example of his behavior just in how he treated Dr. Phil! How much worse must he have treated her over the years?

I missed you show.  My computer is in shop for repairs.  Perhaps you can re-run.

I wonder if women who get into such relationships are abused as children, have no positive male figure in their lives.  I know I did not even have a healthy unbringing.

Now at age 64 I look back and find that I have allowed myself to be abused in every aspect of my life.  It does have an affect, even after you wake up and stop it.  May be too late, especially if you do not believe in telling you intermost secrets to trained strangers.

....this creepy guy should be locked away BEFORE he commits the ultimate tragedy......... Lori Hacking is only ONE example of MANY in similar circumstance.

(but as I said on the message that did NOT get included here: good ole ronnie reagan closed down all the mental asylums when he was governor ---- so there is no place for guys like this UNTIL they commit a horrible crime. )

Hard as it is to feel any sympathy for the couple who took him in and "CUDDLED" him.... ( WOW, don't they have their own need for therapy!!!!)  .... they better get the heck far, far away from him, too... when  he conceives himself  as 'rejected'  he will turn on them with all fury unfurled.   Almost serves them right for being so greedy for his fake  "millions"

I hope that the woman that actually married this loser is reading these messages.  It's absolutely impossible for me to believe that she fell for his 'I'm a millionaire' story.  Equally troubling is that he actually went on to find a married couple (that look completely sane) to fall for his load of bull.  What is this world coming to?  There are sane couples out there that can't have children, and we have people like this couple raising human children.  This woman was actually pleading and crying for this guy.  What kind of example is she setting for her daughters who will one day see this show.  When he said he was never going to see his children again, she should have jumped for joy!  Instead, she sat there wimpering like a complete idiot.  What was she crying for?  If this guy falls off the face of the earth he'd be doing her and her daughters a favor.  Let's not even talk about the damage living with this crazy fool did to her son!  I have NEVER registered to post a message to a mesage board in my life, but after seeing this show, I just couldn't help myself.  Someone should take these kids away from these people and give them half a shot a developing into decent human beings.  Right now, they don't have a shot in hell.

Not all lie detectors or lie detector administrators are created equal.

Psychophysiologist/digital polygraph administrators are not your average run-of-the-mill operators.

The polygraph administrators whom Dr. Phil engages on his show are Psychophysiologists, PhD's, some of whom are also former federal agents who have also been responsible for polygraphing our own federal agents to ensure that they are still working for our own government and not as double spies.

The polygraph administrators are extremely well educated and familiar with the physiology

involved in the process.  For instance, they would be able to recognize if the subject were under the

influence of alcohol or other substances, or was trying to deliberately skew the polygraph results.

The polygraph administrators are extremely skilled in detecting deception and/or evasion.

I seriously doubt that she was crying at the end because she'd been holding out hopes of getting back together with him.

It's far, far more likely that she was crying because he was saying cruel things about her children... his children.

"They are dead to me. You can have them."

It doesn't get any more cruel than that.

She was crying, because she was in pain on their behalf. They'd just been abandoned by their father.