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Topic : 07/21 Lies and Betrayal

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Created on : Friday, February 08, 2008, 12:23:31 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/14/08) When you get married, you look forward to a life filled with love, happiness and security. But what do you do if you find out your spouse has been telling you lies and is someone completely different than the person you thought you knew? Elizabeth says her husband of three years, Matt, is a pathological liar, a con man and an alcoholic. She says he has lied about everything from what he does for a living to dying of cancer so that she would marry him. Matt says Elizabeth is a sociopath, and he accuses her of molesting her 12-year-old son. When Dr. Phil interrogates them with tough questions, will the truth come out? In an effort to sift through the mudslinging and get to the truth, Matt and Elizabeth agree to take a lie detector test. One of the two was deceitful in answering every question. Find out who. Next, hear from Randy and Rhonda, a couple who took Matt in and are caring for him because they believe he may be living the last phase of his life. Will Matt's shocking statements change their view of him? Dr. Phil has a strong warning for this couple. Then, Matt and Elizabeth are currently separated and negotiating custody of their two young daughters. See the argument that ensues outside the courthouse when Elizabeth accuses Matt of sleeping in the same bed with Rhonda. And, what shocking statement does Matt make about his daughters? Join the discussion.

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July 26, 2008, 11:25 pm PDT

This guy 'took the cake!'

I could NOT believe the odasity of this FOOL to sit there on National TV in front of millions of viewers & try to insult Dr. Phil as well as the Public. He definitely deserved an "Academy Award" for his performance! To adamantly state that he was a Doctor & that he attended a University, which was verified by Dr. Phil that he in fact did NOT have certification & that the institute didn't even know WHO this clown was - and then for this bubbling idiot to try and clarify WHO was WHO when he didn't even know WHO the "Dean" was?! Give me a break will YOU! He was caught right there in his own heap of a LIE! The dead give away that he was nothing but a shmuck was when he brought this poor woman to Florida & claimed that he didn't have the keys to his 'great BIG mansion of a home!' How on earth could anybody ever misplace that? If I was in that women's shoes, I would have dropped this LOSER off on the next curb & left his sorry behind right there - NOT go onto to have children with HIM! What on Earth were you thinking girl?! Obviously you weren't! You fell fo HIM - 'hook, line, and sinker!' Now is the time for YOU to stand up for yourself like YOU are and just 'dust yourself off!' and Leave this Loser in your dust!' For him to make those ugly false accusations towards yourelf regarding your 12 year old son is totally absurd & off the wall. It is quite obvious that this man is disturbed when he has to use a fatal illness as a crutch to 'sponge off' innocent people who are just as completely ignornant as he is! I have NEVER been more appalled as I was watching this complete FOOL make a complete IDIOT out of himself - he most definitely 'took the cake!'
 
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July 28, 2008, 1:16 pm PDT

he is a jerk

OK i guess this show aired last week and i missed it and just saw it it today u got caught in l lies your soon to be ex wife passed how can u say your kids r dead to u that is just wrong in my op ion u don't desr5ve those kids she dose and i hope u rott in he ## cause that how i feel u better get help cause u need it bad
 
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July 28, 2008, 2:22 pm PDT

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 When someone is a pathological liar like this guy, they are so caught up in keeping the lie that it's a pseudo-reality to them. Unfortunately, he's not gonna change.  My boyfriend in high school was a pathological liar (still is, I would venture to guess) and the type just.won't.change.  They can't break out of the psedo-reality they have lied their selves into.

But I have to ask...and I haven't read all the responses, but I have to ask how low this woman's self-esteem was to marry this guy and have not one, but two children with him? It was doomed from the start.  My heart aches for her. It really does. Sure, she has lies, but not in a pathological way. I see her lies as part of her low self-esteem (and she can admit she lied. BIG DIFFERENCE than his sinister reality of lies).
 
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July 28, 2008, 4:06 pm PDT

this guy's a piece of work

The guy's wife is STUPID and she is a gold-digger. She wanted someone to take care of her. What happened to the so-called independent woman.   When this person said his daughters were dead to him, it was because he was found out. when a liar is caught they immediately lash out. This guy needs medication!

 

 

 
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July 28, 2008, 4:32 pm PDT

my gut feelings are...

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This show is very relevant to me, right now. The lying is an issue my husband & I are working on, too. I hope to record this to see what the advice is.

 

Thank you for covering this topic.

That guy today is scarry! 7/28 liar and a con  

My gut is telling me that he is the type of man that could easily  kill his wife and two daughters with no remorse. I can only hope that Dr. Phil has turned that tape into the courts and to that guys attorney. If he even has one?  As for the wife,she needs help as well. Dr. Phil you didn't even offer her any.  Please follow through with them and see if she is alright.  As for that couple who has let that guy move in,well they are so in deniel of losing there son that they have brought that guy into there home and there lives to replace him.They need some counsel.  He would kill them too if they turned on him. Was this a repeat show or a new show?  It seemed familar but not sure. Dr. Phil you were amazing the way you handled him.

 

Oprah always says,"go with your gut."  My instincts are usually pretty right on.

 
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July 28, 2008, 5:54 pm PDT

YES!

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Are you seriously suggesting someone should be locked up for a crime they haven't committed? I hope I misunderstood you.


I believe that the mental hospital system should absolutely be opened again, the way it used to be.  And Matt should be one of the first committed.
 
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July 28, 2008, 8:36 pm PDT

Living with a liar.

My heart goes out to Elizabeth.

At the age of twenty six I met and married a man that turned out to be my worst nightmmare. We were married for seven years and in that time I went to jail, started taking anti-deppressant medication, had two nervous breakdowns and started seeing a therapist. 

The only bright spot in my life. was the birth of my two beautiful little girls. Little did I know at the time that I would be the soul support emotionally, financially, and physically for my children. I have been divorced since 2000 from the girls father and I am still amazed at the things I am finding out about that he has done. Since my divorce he has remarried twice and both of the women have also divorced him for the same reasons I did. I am still in contact with his family and they have seen his children more than he has. His family has not even seen him in almost three years.

 

He has lied about anything from the death of a child we never had, to telling anyone that would listen that he was dying of a rare disease. He showed up in court in a wheelchair to try to keep me from getting benefits from his Social Security case for me to raise our children. I moved a state away for an employment opportunity and he lied to a judge and told him that I kidnapped my children and took them  away without his knowledge. The judge granted his request for custody and I was almost brought up on kidnapping charges.

 

I have lived the madness you are living Elizabeth. I know all you want from him, is to take responsibility for his actions and to start telling you the truth, but to be honest he doesn't have it in him. He is sick and will probably never stop the behaviors that have ruined your life and that of your children.

Get out now. Take your children and leave. Fight for them.

 

I would love to talk to you face to face and offer my support to you. What you need at this time is to be around other people that have gone through what you are going through. I have been there and to this day I am still paying for that one little mistake I made when I said "I Do".

 

Be strong for you and your children. Be better than the madness that is your husband. Tell yourself that you are worth it and you and your children deserve better. Stand up and be the strong woman that we know you can be. We are all here for you. All the women that are or have been in the place you are in now are pulling for you. You will make it to the other side, just have faith.

 

God Bless You and Your Children.

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A woman who has been there

 

 

 
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July 28, 2008, 9:29 pm PDT

I was a victim once, too

About 20 years ago, when I was in high school, I met a boy that had problems with telling the truth, like Matt.  At first, when his letters/notes to me didn't make sense, I would question him and he always had an excuse.  Later, he claimed to get lettered in academics, but never put the letter on his jacket, like the other letters he had.  (his crazy mom put ALL his music awards and letters on his jacket for all to see) Then, he claimed to have a friend die, but he never told me where the funeral was or the name of the friend.  He had pictures of people who he claimed to be his "real" family.  (He was adopted).  When I met the family he found, none of them matched the pictures he showed me previously.  He would lie about big things and little things, any thing.  I finally called him the liar he was and he broke up with me.  Although I didn't like the lies, I couldn't imagine being without him and tried to get him back!  I now realize I had a self esteem problem and depression.  I was weak and that jerk probably picked that up about me right away.  He later married the girl he dated before he dated me and is now an attorney.  I talked to him a few years ago and he is the same crappy person he always was.  The girl who married him must have the same problems I did years ago.  I can now pick out a liar a mile away and do not associate with people like that - they are just a bunch of trouble.  Thank God I didn't marry him or have children with him!  I am blessed and LUCKY!
 
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July 28, 2008, 9:46 pm PDT

Elizabeth needs help

 Its a very sad and unfortunate situation,especially for the kids.However,I think Elizabeth,if she doesnt get help with her self esteem,will continue to fall prey to these types of creeps.She needs to change herself in order to protect her kids and be a good rolemodel to her daughters.
 
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July 28, 2008, 9:52 pm PDT

07/21 Lies and Betrayal

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I believe that the mental hospital system should absolutely be opened again, the way it used to be.  And Matt should be one of the first committed.
Nothing like a bit of over the top Fascist hysteria to end the day huh?
 
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