Topic : 07/17 Living on a Prayer

Just a little perspective.   Dr. Phil tries to help people with problems.  Therefore all the shows show people who have problems.  If you base life on doctor phil episodes, than you should never get married, because there is fighting,cheating, lieing and abuse. Everyone has eating problems, people are either to large to leave the house, or dieing from starvation, Con men are everywhere, and it is impossible to take pain killers without abusing them and becoming a drug addict.  So those of you who are worried that homeschooling is being given a bad name calm down.  People who are on his show typically take something meant for good, (food, medication, relationships,) and add their own unhealthy twist.  Do you really care what someone thinks if they base their entire view of homeschooling on one Dr. Phil Episode.  In life people will always warp good things.  I mean this in no way against the show.  It is doing a great job helping people.  But there are people out there that watch the show and catagorize people by what they see. These same type people, also make judgements solely on what is on the news.  I'm kind of going off now, but hope to get back to the point.  After the hurricaine, there were people who were wonderful and just wanted to help, there were people who had opinions based on what they heard, but really just wanted to understand, and were willing to listen to find out why someting that was being broadcasted on the news wasn't really accurrate. They listened to what you had to say before making  up their mind.  Then there were the people that took everything the news said as God.  I swear they could sniff me out, so they could bash Fema, or Nagin.  In "support of me"  if I had given those peope my energy I'd be dead,  They were the ones who were the most "far off".  In a disscussion I found myself in with someone who was ripping Nagin up one side and down the other, and me trying to defend him and trying to figure out how to gracefully escape, the lady looked my straight in the face, and asked me if he was smart?  In this she meant "learned". My brain nearly exploded trying to grasp the obserdity of the question. My point is in every facite of life those people are going to be there when you do anything, that they see as outside the realm of norm.  Though I believe in there own little world they mean well,  Don't waste your energy (fight) on them, it will only make you tired.

Did you take a moment dear viewer to look fully into the face of his wife?  I did.  Her face is soft, no frown lines...no premature wrinkling, just soft and gentle eyes held on her man that God lead her to, no stress even though to Dr. Phil's audience, she was a living with a mad man...their children playing and happy, did you see him a playing with his kids?  I would have done just about anything had my dad taken the time to have spent it with us 9 kids.  He didn't work was all that he knew and alcohol when he finally made it to the top.

Long story short...money, alcohol without God in his life...lead him back towards the road that he raised the largest portion of us nine kids...no where land...

This is a Christian father/family that is being taken down here...not a dead beat father...

I for one am one Christian minister that believes that God is a leading all that want to be lead...and yes sometimes in the mist of our being lead...others that we are a depending on...fall by the way side of what they should have done...to have insured that our union was all within God's Will for all involved...

Meaning:  Sometimes that which is presented to us large business or dream weaver...both are being tested...."that which one does to the lowest of my children, he does to Me."

Just like a marriage takes two persons to hold it together...in a business relationship...it takes the Chief and the Indians a working together to bring all into harmony and balance.

This man didn't get a chance to state how his million dollar gross business went a bunk...

I personally would like for this guy to work with some sort of Eco group that are working on ways to live more harmonious, for you might be looking at the next billionaire...family.  His ideas aren't all that brain less...many like tropical fish and exotic plants a growing and a surving in conditions not native to their habitat.

Just because this man's dream doesn't fit the mold of what others would call real...they are never less, his dreams.

You have yours and I have mine.  Some people get luckier than others when someone walks into their world and says to them...I believe in you and I can help you obtain that which your dreaming is also my same dream.

This man hasn't found that yet.

I read a long time ago that in Our Bible, someone counted all the times that giving to others was better than receiving...and the amount of times although I never took the time to count them myself, outweigh all the scripture count of extending love to others.  Now I find that pretty profound and when I look at all the celebrities that give willingly to others and watch how they fortune just keeps on a growing...I have to believe that there is some validity in what I read several years again.

I am a giver...I have found that by giving to others, if nothing more than support...helps me always in the long run...

I believe like Dr. Phil that money is a necessary evil...I really don't believe that this man didn't want to work...for he states that he is a workaholic...if nothing more than a working his mind...deciding how he could have changed the invention to make it more amendable to everyone in the exercise industry instead of just one industry...

He to me is a man that ran out of resources...for he hasn't been a living without water and heat for that long and the churches do help those needy folks that have food and survival needs...so there are resources for him even if the government doesn't help...

So I don't think anyone should be a calling in Johhny Law to take away his kids...

I truthfully don't believe that his wife's parents wanted the outcome that they got...I believe that what they wanted was for someone to spot his uniqueness and contact him...for living simply is what I believe this whole country/perhaps world should be a heading towards...we are in grave trouble in America.

Jobs are what keeps the nation a floating in the heat of so much debt.

Just call me a dreamer.

May You Be Blessed

Love, Light and Peace

Tonie

2 Thes. 3:10 (NIV)    

   For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."  

It appears this guy is afraid of life because of some past failures or who knows what?  It sure seems like this fellow has allowed life experiences to make him afraid rather than creative.   Then he hides behind the scriptures and his ''belief''  that this is what God is saying to him.  Seems to contradict the above scripture.
Has he put his fears in a place of more importance than taking care of his children? Not a father I would like to have.
 

Are his wife's actions, although she appears to be more level headed than him, making her an accomplice,.  Where is her backbone?  She is a human being with a good mind, after all.  I do believe in submission but do you submit to someone who does not know and follow God's actual scripture rather than what he wants scripture to say.. 

  

To this father, I feel the problem is not money, it is your mind. Please get some help.
  

The stats comparing home schooled children to those in public schools is rather alarming in comparison...

I now wish that I could have been able to have stayed home with my kids instead of working...for those that are home schooled are the achievers in colleges and universities...

Simply due perhaps to more bonding time allocated them and more personalized attention to their individual needs and specialness...

Instead of being placed in the same box as everyone else...

So I disagree with their need for more socialized time...yet that is my opinion and we all our own...

May You Be Blessed

Love, Light and Peace

Tonie

Parents - One of you needs to grow up, face your responsibilities as a parent and get a job.  What kind of role models do you thing you are giving your children?  They deserve to live in an environment where they feel safe and happy.  My heart really breaks for the baby.  None of these kids asked to be  put into this "lifestyle".  Use your college educations and get work - Dan obviously you could work in landscaping since you seem to be so gifted with growing things or perhaps you could work in a pet store.  Break some sweat, and get a job!

Grandparents - Stop giving them money!  This is only enabling them!  Further, if you have not thought about it, make sure your wills are up to date.  If  you are wanting to leave anything behind, make a trust fund for the children and appoint someone to be the guardian of that trust fund for them...not their mother or father!

Leave God out of this.  He gave you life, he died for you and all  your sins.  Show Him some respect.

I know what you are a saying...sometimes it does take lots of energy to get my truths out, especially since I too have walked such similar paths with many on Dr. Phil's show...

I just feel that if I don't...perhaps people like the ones we just watched...will leave the show and start to believe all that others a watching their brief summation of their lives, have a better handle on them, than they do...sometimes the viewers are right, yet most of the time...those that can't think or see outside of the box of the obvious...go off on them...not helping only a hurting them...

I feel that God would have me help all caught in the same dilemma...not many in my life took up for me and I found myself a fighting everything myself with God's help, only...

Just my thoughts

Your words have made me tear up...I thank you.  Tears can be helpful...you know?  Thank you for caring enough to give us your very best as well...

Love, Light and Peace

Tonie

Again, did you not hear that the wife stated that he has four or five job applications out there and is waiting for the call back?

I can't remember the name of one of the authors that Oprah had on her show that wrote a book about being in the interim of life...a time and place where nothing real was being manifested...sort of like sitting at the bottom of the hole one has dug for themselves, deciding that the only way out of that hole was up...he will get up and when he does, I do hope that Dr. Phil will be a bringing him back on the show with his lovely family for all things do happen for a reason...all things...

I have that much faith, trust and belief that God never allows His children to fall that far from Him...gentle, caring and loving Arms...

Some one will spot the needs of this man and his family...just like the person that wrote on this site about all the help that God sends us and how it is up to us to decide which is valuable and which is not...what is valuable to me is the fact that in the Bible...women are to follow the lead of their Christian lead spouse...this wife is not an enabler...she is doing what God has lead her to do...if that means into a hole for a while...so be it.

Personally to me, when I was in love with my significant other, I would have lived in a cave just to be with him...I believe that Dr. Phil's Robin...would agree.

Those are my thoughts for whatever they are worth...

Love, Light and Peace

May You Be Blessed

Tonie

Dan - Wake up.  Life isn't all about you, what your dreams are, what kind of job you want, etc.  You have a very poor knowledge of scripture.  The Apostle Paul took great pains to not be a burden to others.  He worked making tents.  If the Apostle Paul was not too important to do menial labor such as making tents, then why are you absolved?  Or what about Jesus who was a carpenter?  If he was a carpenter he obviously spent time making things with and doing work.  And, his life was poured out for others not spent doing exactly what he wanted to do whenever he felt like it. 

  So, sorry Dan.  You need to look in the mirror.  You are completely selfish and self-absorbed.  You are not providing for your family because you simply choose not too!  You wife loves you and wants to support you.  However, you are completely WRONG.  So, the end result of your selfishness is that your wife will eventually leave with the children and/or the children will be taken away from you because of your living conditions.

  If you truly love and care for your family, you will go out and work and earn income.  And, sorry, you don't even have to "like" your job in anyway.  If you can earn money cleaning sewers, picking up trash, scrubbing floors, then that is what you should be doing.  I highly respect anyone who works in ANY job doing their work.  So, stop deluding yourseld and telling us how "hard working" you are.  That is pure nonsense.  Your sin is staring you in the face - the sin of laziness.  However, you are defiant and I saw no inkling that you are even willing to hear.  He who has ears to ear, let him hear.