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Created on : Friday, April 04, 2008, 02:12:40 pm

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Have you ever had the nagging feeling that something wasn’t right with your relationship? Dr. Phil’s guests say they saw several red flags before they walked down the aisle, but they looked the other way and still said, “I do.” Randall and Shawn were happily married until Shawn discovered men’s magazines in her husband’s bag. Now Randall is out of the closet as a gay man, and he’s struggling to keep his family together. Shawn wants to know if they should stay married for their two pre-teen children or get a divorce. How are their kids handling the news that their father is gay? And, Natalie says she’s leaving if her husband, Robert, doesn’t change his lazy ways. She says he hasn’t worked in a year and watches TV all day while she works, cooks, cleans and pays bills. Robert says he’s pursuing his dream of writing a novel, but Natalie says the book is an excuse to sit on his butt all day. Is Robert a talented undiscovered writer or a freeloading husband? Share your thoughts here.

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what_is_love

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April 10, 2008, 2:28 pm PDT

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i agree whole heartedly with you.

the main thing wrong is so called christians who don't know the first thing about being christian!!

being christian is about loving,caring and not passing judgement. if yeshua was walking this earth today he would embrace everyone regardless of sexual orientation,creed,complexion or religion.

Just because a Christian calls homosexuality a sin, doesn't mean that are not loving. Alcoholism is a sin but guess what? I still love my neighbor despite his unwillingness to change (even though he knows better).

I still watch his boys despite him lying to me and my husband several times. I'm going to keep on loving him because one of these days he might actually set aside his pride and say "guys... I really need help. You're right, I can't do this on my own."

But I am not ever EVER going to tell him that it's okay to get drunk. I am never going to lead him to believe that I am okay with it.

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ladyjessica

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April 10, 2008, 2:30 pm PDT

Sadly, I can believe it...

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I CANNOT BELIEVE what I am seeing. I just looked at the board, and all I see is some bible thumpers condeming Gays! Some are saying they are married to men who "practice the Gay lifestyle" and they they start talking all the God stuff. I can't take it. Why do you people have to bury yourselves, and cover yourselves in the Bible stuff??? WHY CAN'T YOU JUST STOP THAT. STOP CONDEMNING PEOPLE FOR BEING BORN THE WAY THEY WERE BORN (IE:GAY). STOP THINKING THAT IF YOU PRAY HARD ENOUGH, MAYBE YOUR GAY HUSBAND WILL START LIKING.."TACOS" SHALL WE SAY??? You Bible thumpers sound like those people who are in CULTS or something!!! Maybe that is why there are so many priests who molest little boys. Everyone is wearing the shroud of DENIAL.

I believe that people who are anxious to push their personal religious agenda are to be pitied. Their faith (?) is obviously so weak that it can only be bolstered by forcing everyone to share their views. I applaud Dr. Phil for being supportive of a loving couple who had nothing but the best interest of their children at heart.

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April 10, 2008, 2:31 pm PDT

G.F. Kick the boyfriend out foe good.

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number one you are apparently about 10 years older than said boyfriend.

number two what on earth were you thinking having a child with said boyfriend specially when he cannot hold down a full time job.

you laid in your bed of your own choosing so now you have to deal with it on your own because trust me your said boyfriend will not help you and past performance is present performance.

oh yeah and as far as your sick child you will have to deal with that on your own also.

G.F.

I have been in your shoes kick him out get back to work .

Ask your family for their help and don't put up with this.

my ex all ways put the balm on me and I put my son threw hell

to this day he wont tell me what he did to him.Do you want that for your boy?

No get out and get a better life girl.

email me if you want.

poppyseed454@hotmail.com

PS take care

Maneki Neko Sleeping Kitty On Monitor

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April 10, 2008, 2:32 pm PDT

04/10 Marriage Dilemmas

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Maybe people should watch the show before they start throwing stones. I am the wife. Tomorrow after the show airs I'll update you on the status of our lives since we taped the show.

Also, nobody has the right to place judgement on anybody when they don't even know the entire story. There is only one who has the right to judge. That would be God.

Tune in tomorrow...

Shawne

Are you kidding? Of course people are going to offer their opinions. That is the point of this board.

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April 10, 2008, 2:33 pm PDT

04/10 Marriage Dilemmas

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I agree with the person who says that homosexuality is a sin. If you call yourself a Christian and read your Bible then you should know this. I don't believe that God hates the gay person, He just hates the sin. I don't see how people call themselves Christians but don't believe the Bible. This man is obviously wrong on many levels. He's living in sin, he decieved his wife and now is tearing his family apart. This woman should exit as fast as she can.

You know I have never sat down with god, and asked that question,his take on the gay person nor would it be a question I think I would need to ask, My question would be more about what he thinks of all the christians evoking his name with hate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't think the show was about the christians veiw on being gay?

I feel for the wife,

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April 10, 2008, 2:34 pm PDT

It's the Natalie from the show writing

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I was in the audience when this was aired over a year ago. November 17, 2006. The gay guy IS gay and the aspiring writer....he's a joke. It's actually pretty funny how Dr. Phil addresses him. Anyway, don't knock his wife. I don't know what she's done with her life since then. Hopefully the husband pulled his head out of his armpit and got a real job, or she left him. So watch the show on Thursday. You'll see.

Well...just to give you a little update...

I left Robert three months later and as of last month we are now, finally, divorced!!! He is still unemployed ...he managed to find a new girl to sponge from while he "Writes his book"

For me, I am in a fantastic relationship with someone who is kind and loving...and guess what? He has a job! I was so unhappy in that relationship and getting out was the best thing I could have ever done.

Take care and best wished to all of you in your relationships!

Natalie

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April 10, 2008, 2:37 pm PDT

04/10 Marriage Dilemmas

I was moved by the strength and affection you shared for each other and sincerely hope you and your family have found a way to grow and prosper.

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April 10, 2008, 2:40 pm PDT

04/10 Marriage Dilemmas

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There is no such thing as "people who used to be Gay" - People are BORN GAY, and if they go to that sicko church where the guy claims to "cure" people from being Gay (as if it's an illness!) -- THOSE PEOPLE ARE STILL GAY, but they are LIVING A CHARADE, and everyone who is not buried in the shroud of religious DENIAL sees that. Just as I could see the second that man opened his mouth on the TV, that he was GAY. AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG OR UNNATURAL ABOUT BEING GAY, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BORN THAT WAY, JUST LIKE YOU WERE BORN STRAIGHT. And when it comes to bi-sexual -- there is NOTHING wrong with that either, and actually, everyone who is born is bisexual. We all have someone, somewhere of the same sex that we would sleep with (YES YOU WOULD, IF YOU WERE NOT SO REGIMENTED AND INHIBITTED, AND AFRAID OF GOING TO HELL, AND ALL THOSE OTHER FAIRY TAILS YOU BIBLE THUMPERS ARE AFRAID OF, LIKE SOME KIDS ARE AFRAID OF THE BOOGY MAN HIDING UNDER THE BED, WHO MIGHT GRAB THEIR FEET IF THEY HAND THEM OVER THE SIDE). I slept with women when I was younger, but I wasn't Gay and I never considered myself "bi-sexual" -- I don't believe in LABELS. Just like I don't believe in the label "SINNER." Even today, whether I met a man I found attractive and interesting and sexy, or if I met a woman that I felt that way about -- It's about THE PERSON -- Not about what is between their legs.

I have met so many people who claim to be bi-sexual but only sleep with members of the opposite sex when they are drunk. I am in recovery from alcoholism so these are people I know from my past. They said they would never do anything sexual with same sex gender when sober? How do you explain that? Are they still born with the desire but with a disclaimer of being drunk?

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April 10, 2008, 2:48 pm PDT

Randall & Shawne

"Randall and Shawne were happily married until Shawne found gay magazines in her husband's bag." ....evidentally NOT so happily married if the ONLY question is "should we stay married for the sake of our children?" Sexuality issues aside...should we EVER stay married simply for the sake of our children?

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April 10, 2008, 2:52 pm PDT