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Topic : 08/13 Babysitter Gone Bad

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(Original Air Date: 05/13/08) She was the most sought-after nanny in her neighborhood. Moms trusted her, and kids adored her. But Stephanie, 23, has been hiding a secret for two years: She’s addicted to crack and heroin. Stephanie’s mother, Kim, says she’s tried everything to help her daughter, but “when does a child listen to a parent?” Dr. Phil has some hard questions for Kim. Is she a bad influence on her addicted daughter? Joani, a former addict and guest, caught shocking evidence on videotape. Then, who does Stephanie think is partly responsible for her downward spiral? An absent father, a devoted best friend, an incarcerated boyfriend and two former employers  -- Stephanie hears from them all. Will this be the wake-up call she needs to enter rehab? Plus, when former guest and heroin addict, Sarah, shares her recovery story, will it inspire Stephanie to change her life before her addiction kills her?  Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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May 14, 2008, 8:43 pm PDT

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This child has lived in a home with dysfunction with a mother who is nothing but a white trash alcholic, drug addict.  Married 4 times and this last one is just a couple of years older than her daughter.  She doesn't take anything seriously because she is too busy screwing up her own life.  I could not help but notice the people in the background at that party.   The looked like real winners.  I have a daughter recovering from alcoholism, and I would never in a million years have a party knowing my daughter is struggling. 

 

When her daughter told her she was going to shoot heroin, she didn't do anything.  Personally I would have given her a choice--go with broken legs or get some help. 

 

What chance does this poor child have when she gets out of rehab?  Apparently she looks to her mother as a role model and is her best friend, but her success will not happen in that environment. 

This show had me in tears, knowing that this girl has no chance unless she breaks ties with her trashy mom.  I wanted to smack the smirk off her face. 

 

 
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May 14, 2008, 10:17 pm PDT

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This child has lived in a home with dysfunction with a mother who is nothing but a white trash alcholic, drug addict.  Married 4 times and this last one is just a couple of years older than her daughter.  She doesn't take anything seriously because she is too busy screwing up her own life.  I could not help but notice the people in the background at that party.   The looked like real winners.  I have a daughter recovering from alcoholism, and I would never in a million years have a party knowing my daughter is struggling. 

 

When her daughter told her she was going to shoot heroin, she didn't do anything.  Personally I would have given her a choice--go with broken legs or get some help. 

 

What chance does this poor child have when she gets out of rehab?  Apparently she looks to her mother as a role model and is her best friend, but her success will not happen in that environment. 

This show had me in tears, knowing that this girl has no chance unless she breaks ties with her trashy mom.  I wanted to smack the smirk off her face. 

 

I agree.. BUT, I think the mom needs help too. She is in denial about her addiction and it's not going to help Stephanie any once she returns home. I hope Dr. Phil does a follow up on her so we can see how she is doing. I think the mom has a lot of issues too and I am betting that if she would have admitted to it to Dr. Phil, he would have helped her. I don't think Stephanie should cut off all ties to her mother... i mean, she already lost her father..If her mom can get help, then that would be great.. but until then, I hope Stephanie doesn't return home to her. I hope she can make her mom realize that in order for her to be in her life, she needs to straighten up as well.
 
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May 14, 2008, 11:36 pm PDT

raising kids

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You say you 'begged' your daughter not to do drugs, huh? That's not the way its done. I raised four kids , two who are in the military,one who worked as a drill instructor. You don't say 'please'! If one one my kids told me they wanted to do drugs, I would've been all over them like smell on dirty sock! The problem is though, you have to start from when they are small to let them know you mean business and won't let them take part in destructive behaviour without a helluva fight. Doing drugs, drinking, all the things you are doing are teaching them that its okay to kill themselves s-l-o-w-l-y .Oh, and by the way, I was also 17 when I had my first child too,  so, it can be done.You are not your daughter's 'buddy'. You are as messed up as your daughter. I can only guess that you were not shown the right way to raise kids.I wish you both lots of luck and hope you get the help you need.
 that talk about "begging" caught my attention,  too. but i think one of the reasons the mom dealt with this so gingerlyis b/c, on some level,she knows she's addicted herself. she may not admit it on the surface,not even to herself, but a part ofher knows. yeah,she may have always been an easy mom, but it's also possible that her secret guilt makes it difficult to stand up to her daughter about drugs. i'm not excusing her-- i'mjust trying to figure out why she didn't freak out when her daughter saidshe was thining of doing heroin, etc.
 
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May 15, 2008, 5:26 am PDT

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 that talk about "begging" caught my attention,  too. but i think one of the reasons the mom dealt with this so gingerlyis b/c, on some level,she knows she's addicted herself. she may not admit it on the surface,not even to herself, but a part ofher knows. yeah,she may have always been an easy mom, but it's also possible that her secret guilt makes it difficult to stand up to her daughter about drugs. i'm not excusing her-- i'mjust trying to figure out why she didn't freak out when her daughter saidshe was thining of doing heroin, etc.
I disagree, I think dear old mom just didn't want to lose her party pal!!!
 
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May 15, 2008, 7:10 am PDT

Stephanie

I know this family personally and what you saw on TV about sums it all up. The mother has never thought about her kids, she only worries about herself. The scary thing is she has two younger kids living with her now. I will try and help Stephanie if she ready to get her life back, she was a great beautiful child that has never had anyone to properly raise and love her. Kim, I hope this was a wake up call, but I doubt it...Please prove me wrong.
 
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May 15, 2008, 8:19 am PDT

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People make mistakes all the time.. She showed remorse for her mistake.. Give her a break.. If we were all punished for our mistakes in this life we would be on the streets.  Good people do bad things..

Only God should judge us and who are you to say she can't turn her life around. That is why she went out the show not to have people not support her.

I agree!!!   It's only by the grace of God that we all aren't drug addicts. 

 

Luke 6:36-37

 

36 "Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful"


37 "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven"


 
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May 15, 2008, 9:09 am PDT

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this girl is your typical addict. she appears to be a victim at all turns and blames some unseen "devil" rather than accept responsibility for her own actions. as for shooting suboxone (she mentioned doing so at the beginning of the show) i can tell you personally that you CANNOT shoot this drug!! it is used to help opiate dependant people maintain sobriety. it is a sublingual tablet which means you let it disolve under your tongue. it must be taken this way. shooting this drug will cause immediate withdrawel and possibly send the person taking it to the ER. so i guess what i m trying to say here is this girl started out lying to Dr. Phil. i don't know what the doctor knows about suboxone but i have to tell you i was coming out of my skin when this girl shrugged of "shooting" suboxone! this is a drug that i am currently taking, not abusing and thanks to it and a healthy life plan and therapy i have been sober for over a year. i am offended when i hear of someone abusing this drug. it is for these reasons it has become so difficult to find a dr. willing to prescribe it and get the proper certification required to take on and keep patients such as myself. opiate dependancy is very ugly but it's very possible to live a life free of drugs and the vicious cycles addicts so often find themselves repeating. this young woman even seems to take pride as she tells dr. phil that while she can take it and not feel high he would be "knocked on his butt" if he took it...come on!!! i sure hope dr. phil makes this girl get real before the end of the episode. that is what i love so much about the good dr after all. He makes you give it to him straight but so far she seems to be getting away with being a victim and making light of a rather serious issue. as i close this post this girl is STILL laughing!!! why are these people sitting on that stage making light of this situation they are in??? the mother needs to be seperated from her daughter if she is to ever succeed, in my unprofessional opinion. she is an addict herself as well as an enabler.

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  Congrats on being sober for more than a year. You of all people should know that drug addicts take whatever they can get their hands on. So why be so angry about this. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I hope that with your recovery comes forgiveness and understanding of other people's addiction's. I do not see that in this message. She might be laughing and she might be coy about her her lifestyle however she is getting help and focusing on the negitive of the show is not good for you. Be angry with me if you want but it is true and sometimes the truth does hurt. Good luck to you!

 
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May 15, 2008, 12:29 pm PDT

party pal mom

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I disagree, I think dear old mom just didn't want to lose her party pal!!!
 you could be right. there's no telling what someone's addictions will lead them to do. very sad. i 'm gladthe daughter's taking the help that dr phil's providing. i hope the mom will face reality and go for help, too -- not just for herself but because her addictions clearly impact on her daughter.
 
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May 15, 2008, 12:36 pm PDT

stephaniebrought herself?

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It was Stephanie who begged Dr. Phil for help, not her mother. I think Mom thought it was all a joke.

 did she really? i was fairly sure it was the mom who brought her. i thought i heard dr phil say something like, "you brought her here..." but maybe i'm mistaken.

regardless, no doubt there is at least a part of the mom that's trying to brush all this off. i don't think she sees it as a joke, but she's trying to act as if it is/ trying to make light of it all, as if it's not really that big a deal. why? to "protect" her own adictins,of course! i'd call her "horribly selfish" except that i assume it's her addictions that are controlling her behavior. very sad.
 
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May 15, 2008, 1:41 pm PDT

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I agree!!!   It's only by the grace of God that we all aren't drug addicts. 

 

Luke 6:36-37

 

36 "Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful"


37 "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven"


 i'm gladtoseethat not everybody is in such a hurry to judge. stephanie has had a rough deal in a lot of ways. and yes, she has shown remorse and appears willing to change her ways. but her mom is in obvious need of help, too.  i hesitate to be judgmental with anyone, but it's hard not to be horrified at her denail, especially since it has affected her daughter and couldin time affect her other kids.
 
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