Topic : 05/20 The Dr. Phil House: Brat Camp

Come on people!!!!  All of you who are feeling bad for Noah need to take a look back at this tape this kid is eying the camera the whole time..... He was getting worked up for the camera, that mother wasn't egging him on he was egging himself on so he could put on a show...... I mean are you kidding me "I just need another home to go to.... In other words I am looking for attention and sympathy..... I am not saying he doesn't have any reason to be upset ... I am sure life isn't easy but life never is.... and she isn't abusing him they just need help and I think they will get.

Who are you to invalidate? Were you abused?

If you abuse an animal over a period of time and it eventually attacks you, do you deal with it the same way you'e been dealing with it all along? 

 

 

He IS highly intelligent, but he is still a 10yr old little boy and should be *dealt with* as such.  

I agree that Noah is a magnificant actor. Like some others said, I'm sure he's learned this behavior from Mom. But he's so out of control he needs to be taken to task for his behavior & it doesn't much matter anymore how he got there. This kid is a master manipulator. What's shocking is how good he is at it at such a young age. Noah likely has been abused. Most bullies are. He's well on his way to becoming an abuser himself unless somebody pulls him up short.

My 12 year old grand-daughter rules the home and is totally out of control. My daughter (the mother) was a single parent for her daughter's entire life until 2 years ago when she married a man that has not been around children on a fulltime basis. The first six months everything was fine but since then they argue (step dad and 12 year old) just about daily. It gets to the point where the child screams "I hate you. I wish you weren't here. or You ruined everything." Her parents have tried everything they can think of such as: restrictions from phone or TV, removing her stereo, having her remain in her room, taking privileges away, and even removed her door because of the slamming. I realize that my granddaughter has had alot of stress in her young life that was beyond her control and understanding at the time. Her father has always been an absent parent, coming in and out of her life every couple of years up until he was placed in prison for attempted murder 6 years ago. Also she was staying with her grandfather and me when he passed away at home 3 years ago. She was very close to him and has been afraid to talk to me about him even though I have told her that I liked to hear what she remembers of him. She also is aware that her mother gave her sister up for adoption 5 years ago because her mother knew she could not support two children. So we all know where the anger and confusion is coming from. What we need to know is how we can help her adjust and accept the situation before it escalates into divorce.

I think you didn't get the fact that Noah was just parroting his mother's behavior towards him......the screaming, the disrespect, not listening, and the hitting. Your "solution" of him having to "pick himself up off the floor"? Yeah, THAT'LL work! Violence is always the way to deal with a kid, huh. It's why he is like he is. His mother is abusive, both physically and verbally.

 

However, him slapping his mother was in NO way acceptable, no matter what!

 

You imply that he may be a sociopath.....and maybe he is.....but, neither you nor I are qualified to assign that diagnosis. I believe he needs long term, intensive psychiatric evaluation and intervention to undo the damage that's been done by his mother who, by her own admission, is furious with her son because her daughter died and he is still alive. Do you think he didn't pick up on that? This is an extremely intelligent child who is screaming for his mother to reconnect with him.

 

And as for your statement that he didn't cry after the loss of his sister, and that he even seems gleeful...again, you cannot assume that!  I did not see anything resembling "glee" coming from this child! All I saw was pure rage.

so do you deal with your daughter like she's 13 since she is considered so highly intelligent?

because after what Noah pulled, he would have to leave my house. I really fear for this mother's safety and Noah's constant threatening to call CPS, oh if it were me, I'd call CPS for him and tell them they can have him! He said he wanted to leave her house, then I would help him do so.

 

he was looking his mother in the eye the whole time.. are you all kid  haters or what?