Topic : 06/03 Virtual Chaos

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Created on : Thursday, October 16, 2008, 10:37:46 am
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(Original Air Date: 10/20/08) Sixty-five percent of American households report playing computer and video games, and surprisingly, the average player is 35 years old. Computer games are supposed to be fun, but when a hobby turns into an obsession, virtual fantasy worlds can ruin lives and wreck marriages. Juli says her 34-year-old husband, Fred, plays computer games all day and ignores his entire family. Fred admits to spending up 10 hours a day in a cyber world, but will he call it an addiction? Fred’s stepson, Brandon, thinks Fred is lazy and that his mom can do better. Then, Brad, 40, was so addicted to games that he spent up to 80 hours a week locked in the basement with his computer. Not only did he accumulate close to $24,000 of debt, his addiction nearly cost him his marriage and his life! Next, Liz found her 21-year-old son, Shawn, dead at his computer from a self-inflicted gun shot. She says that a role-playing game in the virtual world transformed her son from a vibrant young adult into a depressed introvert, which ultimately led to his suicide. Liz founded Online Gamers Anonymous to educate others about the potential dangers of obsessive gaming. Then, when Wendy married a video game designer, she literally took matters into her own hands and started playing herself.  Are you or is someone you love at risk for video game addiction? Log on to DrPhil.com for a checklist of signs!

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October 20, 2008, 9:32 pm PDT

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I dont know whats wrong with her. If my husband didnt have a job to pay for internet services he wouldnt play games because i would not pay for it. Its just that simple have the service cut off. If you dont have internet they cant play games. If my kids were playing to much i would cut it off. Just a little common since people.
 
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October 20, 2008, 9:43 pm PDT

This game is NOT for small children

Dr. Phil, did you know that World of Warcraft is rated "T" (for teens and up), due to blood, violence, mild sexual themes and portrayal of alcohol use? On the show, Fred stated that he lets his 5 year old son play. This is inappropriate and should NOT be allowed. I have played WoW and there is a good reason that the Teen rating is in place.
 
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October 20, 2008, 10:08 pm PDT

I agree and disagree..

 Im posting for the parents who think there teens/kids are obsessed/spending to much time/money on video games etc. This is my view..I am 15 by the way.

 

Amount of time: I play video games about 2 hours a day at the most I dont have alot of time now because of school and other things. Play in moderation if your spending all your money and time on it..thats wrong and you need to get help I understand that but you made it sound like video games are bad.

 

Content:I did not watch the whole show but I thought I would say something about my views on most things in gameing..well the content first of all. Lets talk about Halo 3,Call of duty 4 and gears of war. Halo 3 is not really bad there is hardly any blood and language. Call of duty 4..there are blood splaters on the wall when you shoot an enemy in the head and there is language. And gears of war has the most blood language and guts out of those..I think if your mature enough for it go ahead and play it. But the online language and racial slurs..hey parents..guess what these games are RATED M FOR MATURE FOR MATURE AUDENICES. The media targets games like these and talks about the twelve year olds and kids below that age curseing and all that crap. ITS THERE PARENTS RESONSIBLITY to decide what there kids can play those games or not. Thats pretty much all I have to say about this..if you want to depbate on this with me my email is Truman_whitaker@live.com if you do please be mature in your email.

 
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October 20, 2008, 10:36 pm PDT

10/20 Virtual Chaos

Quote From: lizwool

Helllooooo.....      If you would read the responses to this topic, a big problem with excessive gaming issues, is that  people like you dismiss what others are saying that they are experiencing because of excessive gaming.    You  link excessive gaming up with watching too much TV.  What excessive gaming can do to a person and relationships can be far more extensive that what watching too much TV can do to a person.  Many real lives and relationships have been totally ruined because of excessive gaming.  Some people, like you, can get back on track, and have some "control" over their gaming.  That is GREAT.  But, not everyone can.  As you say, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED RUIN IN YOUR LIFE BECAUSE OF EXCESSIVE GAMING, DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT OTHERS DON'T!!  Not all people are like you!
Thank you for that completely enlightening response.  Should I say that I am fully aware of your obvious statement already?  Oh, I just did. I was just responding with my opinion.  Hellllooooo....everyone has one.
 
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October 20, 2008, 10:42 pm PDT

Vrtual confusion

World of Warcraft has millions of players all over the world. It has more players than some countries have people. It's actually a marvelous bit of computer engineering. For those who don't know how these online games work, I'll give a quick (trust me, it's quick) summary.

Players pay a monthly fee to access an account, which contains their various characters. Since there are too many players to put into one world, each character logs into one of several servers, which are copies of the same world (just with different people in them). One of the reasons WoW can be played for so long is that these servers are incredibly stable. The designers of the game specifically made the servers to run for twenty-four-hours a day, seven days a week, without stopping, and there's no limit to how long you can play as long as you pay your fee.

It is perfectly possible to limit the time people spend on an online game. While they're playing, people are monitored to make sure they aren't hacking (cheating) and to keep track of server loads. It would be a simple matter to insert a timer limiting gameplay to, say, eight hours a day. However, many of the ingame activities take hours to complete. If the game developers were to include such a timer, they would have to alter their content, and they would lose many of their players- people like playing for twelve hours at a time. Like it or not, video games are a thriving industry, and they'll do what they can to keep business booming.

If a loved one becomes addicted to drugs, who do you blame: the person who introduced the drugs, the person who sells them, the addict, or the drug itself? There's no one party that can be blamed for this. I think it's ridiculous that gaming addiction is not recognized by the AMA. It fires up the same pleasure centers in the brain as any addiction: alcohol, drugs, gambling, or sex. For a healthy, cautious person, though, games are a great way to have fun and unwind for a few hours. Like most other things, in moderation, it's fine to play games.

As a side note, the ESRB (http://www.esrb.org/index-js.jsp) rates games for a reason (although sometimes they're a little nuts). Small children, like the 5 year old from the show, have no business playing anything on a computer that's more violent than Wii Tennis. Get them to go read a good book. While most online games have automatic censors to hide "dirty words," the censors are easily fooled, and kids can learn all kinds of interesting new words from games like these. Also, remember that while a game might seem like a great babysitter, you're probably leaving your kids with Icyfoot22, unholy crusader for the Undead Legions, and his friend Burrbeard the foul-mouthed drunken dwarf. Keep that in mind.
 
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October 20, 2008, 10:42 pm PDT

10/20 Virtual Chaos

Quote From: j_d_oe

Your last sentence of "Think of it this way, if you watch sitcoms on TV for over an hour, then would you say you are addicted to sitcoms on TV?" indicates to me a lack of understanding of what addiction is.  Until I became addicted to video games, to be honest, I did not really understand how people could become addicted to anything.  One of the things, to me, that defines an addiction to video games is not so much the number of hours per day that are spent playing, although that is often an important indicator of an addiction problem.  For example, I only played about 4 hours per day, which is less than quite a few people spend on a hobby.  However, the important difference is the issue of control.  I only spent that much time because I had some limited control over myself but even that much time, in addition to my other procrastination methods, caused a lot of problems for me.  Although I have stopped playing now, it was not an easy thing for me to do.  People with just a hobby or a pastime, like watching T.V. occasionally, even for over an hour, can usually easily change the amount of time involved if they want to.  Nonetheless, as you say at the start, almost anything can be addictive to certain people.  However, too much time spent doing anything, whether or not it is truly an addiction, is a problem if it causes a person to ignore their real life responsibilities to themselves and those around them.

 

If you are interested in learning more about the issue of addiction, I am sure that there are many excellent books and other references.  However, one book that I, and at least several other people that I know of, have found to be very helpful is "The Addictive Personality: Understanding the Addictive Process and Compulsive Behavior" by Craig Nakken.  A link to it on Amazon is www.amazon.com/Addictive-Personality-Understanding-Compulsive-Behavior/dp/1568381298/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221858013&sr=1-1 .

Aw, thanks, but I fought a real life addiction to drugs for five years and beat it about two years ago.  But, maybe you are right, I don't understand addiction at all.  Thanks for the comprehensive link, I'm sure it will teach me everything. You people need to learn that opinions or e-pinions are just that - opinion.  Everyone has em and they won't change em.  Get over it.
 
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October 20, 2008, 11:55 pm PDT

Message/Advice to Fred from Married FEMALE Gamer!

I loved this show!  I laughed so hard and felt TERRIBLE for Fred.  This is a message for all of you but especially Fred and his wife. 

 

I'm married and I play World of Warcraft.  I created my account on Jan. 20th, 2006 and am still playing to this day with my husband, his EX WIFE, and their two young sons.  My advice for Fred (you non-wow-players will not understand this lingo).  Sweetie...when you're getting wife aggro take a break from the game.  Go grind wife rep.  The game will still be there when you return from work, playing with the kids, etc.  Talk with your wife and have a SERIOUS talk.  You need to balance gaming time and family time.  Make sure you set your game nights when you do raids.  If it's Kara night, ZA night, whatever raid night it is.  Make sure she knows those nights are specifically spent on your computer.  (THAT IS OK!)  The rest of the week only take 2 hours...set an alarm in the game or on your desk.  Play only a bit but spend time with that family.  You can have WoW and family too.  I do!  My husband plays 10x more than I do...and I play often.  We balance everything and you can too.  Good Luck and know that a handful of us who watched understood your side, and laughed with you not at you.  (Elemental Shaman...hehehe you're a Draenei I'm sure of it) 

 

As for the rest of you readers out there.

 

Games don't control people...I am sorry if some people cannot handle the addiction or the gaming.  It's not Blizzard's fault, or Xbox, or Everquest.  Everyone should take things in moderation. 

 

I can personally say that World of Warcraft changed my life.  Yes, sounds cheesy.  I've always loved video games and I am a female.  :~P  My husband and I had huge issues with his ex-wife.  Our relationship with her was difficult and it caused many problems for us and the children.  She was into World of Warcraft so we bought the game.  I admit our main reason was to see how often she played.  It was addictive but not too hard to control. 

This game brought us closer together.  She started calling ME - the new wife - on the phone and would talk about the game, or we would talk about the children!  The kids would get online and we would all play as a large family...and the outcome was AMAZING!  We went from having this very difficult relationship to now having the most amazing love for one another.  All because of a darn video game.  Here we are, 3 yrs later, still playing on weekends and some week nights.  Visiting each other when in the same city, calling each other on the phone, and 3 yrs ago this woman couldn't stand to see us during child exchanges. 

 

Pretty amazing for those "silly little pixels."  It brought this family together....it didn't tear us apart. 

 

Learn to get your addictions under control and don't blame video games.  They just fill the void in your life.  Get to the real root of your problems.

 

<3 Xaria (lvl 70 Mage and proud step-mom)

Terenas

 

 
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October 21, 2008, 2:26 am PDT

I had to change the channel!

  After watching a measly 20 minutes of todays show, I had to change the channel. When was that line crossed from men actually being men, holding down jobs, taking out the trash, spending time with their children, and sleeping in the bed with their wives to being addicted to a ridiculous game instead? I can just imagine how my husband would take it if I became addicted to playing with Barbie dolls as a grown woman and excluded everything else from my tiny little world. Yes, these games may be more modern than Barbie dolls but, they are still just a game.

  What in the heck are these women still doing with men who are addicted to playing a game? I would feel like I had another child to take care of. What a turnoff! It may be an addiction but, I still just couldn't handle any man that had to play a "game" rather than live in the real world with real adults. What is their conversation like over the dinner table? Oh, I forgot, they never make it to the dinner table!

 
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October 21, 2008, 2:34 am PDT

Get Real!

Quote From: jakelunn

In your show today it seemed like you made Gaming look like a bad thing.
Many people look at Gaming as a stupid mindless thing that doesn't help you at all, Like sitting in front of the TV all day watching movies and shows. Gaming has its down-sides. Such as addiction. But it also has it's upsides. It helps jog your mind FAR more than people may believe. I think if you sat down on a computer and played a REAL game you would see how much focus, determination, and skill it takes to succeed. Sure, it may not give you a physical workout, but it most definitely works your brain.
Not to mention it can be extremely competitive.
I think it was CNN that did a study a while ago that showed kids that played video-games succeeded more in certain field than kids that didn't.
Playing a game until you become addicted "IS" a bad thing! And there are many more ways to "stimulate" the brain than with gaming. When a grown man can't even hold down a job because of his gaming, it's definitely not a good thing. A grown man who actually holds down a job can find many things to stimulate his brains with such things as conversation with other adults, reading a newspaper, etc..  Hey, maybe he can even read a book! Buy a Rubik's Cube! Hey, he can even find stimulation by sleeping in the same bed as his wife!
 
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October 21, 2008, 2:37 am PDT

I agree!

Quote From: jaerenee

I dont know whats wrong with her. If my husband didnt have a job to pay for internet services he wouldnt play games because i would not pay for it. Its just that simple have the service cut off. If you dont have internet they cant play games. If my kids were playing to much i would cut it off. Just a little common since people.
Except I would also go as far as kicking the deadbeat out! What grown woman wants to be married to a man who prefers a game over her? Call me crazy but I prefer to actually be married to a grownup! Oh, a grownup with a job!
 
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