Topic : 06/08 Mind Control?

I was as sincere a "Christian" woman as anyone could ever have been from the age of 16 through 45.  And I never once felt at home within it.  I stuck to the basics according to the records words of Christ, but felt like an anomaly with each of the various churches/denominations I tried. I gave myself to it, genuinely loved people but received only conditional love back.  I served tirelessing on committees, pray sincerely for people, gave and never asked for anything in return, and still came to see it for what it truly is.  It's a sham for the most part and , a crutch that I don't need, and realize I never needed.  If it works for you, good on you.  But, if you open your eyes to history, you'll see that Christianity is just one of the foremost religious of this world over centuries, that has been the cause for the death of innocent people (especially free thinking women), wars, political upheaval (and not for the better) and other ignominious things.   I believe, with all I've studied and personally experienced, that this world would be ten times better without religion at all, and especially without Christianity.  I know my life is. And my family's life is.   Because, the truth set us free from all of it's nonsense and mind control. 

If Christianity were the panacea you proffer, then it is failing miserably, isn't it?   Jerks in public ministry have cast judgment on 3000 people killed during 9/11 and others killed in hurricanes.  Who the heck are these bastions of malice and hate who are held up as "Christian" leaders.    They make my case for me.  

The only love I've ever had within humanity in my 51 years has not come from professing Christians.  In fact the worst treatment, judgement, condemnation, and withholding of help has come from professing Christians.   I fnd that those who are smart enough to not submit to its mind control, or have been spewed from its midst due to nonconformity are the ones who have shown me love, joy, peace and acceptance.  I am glad to be free of its clutches, and so is my pocketbook, my healthy, my well-being,my peace of mind, and my enduring friendships.  Good riddance. 

We don't need religion, we need love and acceptance.   Religion talks about it, but it doesn't offer that.  Period.

Well, ya know, diverting attention from the heart of the matter by addressing the manner in which it is said is something that cults and abusers do.  It's deflecting and unproductive.  If you want to take issue with how someone got a point across and didn't mince words, try reading what Jesus said of the religious leaders of his time in the Christian folklore of Matthew 23.  I guess he would have been more credble if he hadn't been so forthright.  Geez....

Things that offend little usually don't educate much.  And vice versa.  It is those things which are sometimes hardest to hear, that must be said.   And if it spoils the argument it only does so for those who wouldn't have "got it" even if had been delivered on a silver platter with silk-gloved clad hands.  I'll say it again...people are dumb sheep.  Cults and the mind control exercised by religious institutions of all persuasions are the only proof that anyone needs.  (Not to say there aren't other examples, but the topic here is the mind control of religion.)

Sometimes the best way to be compassionate is to wake people up like thunder.  Even that which is recorded in the gospels of the Christian folklore has profuse examples of this in the purported words of Christ.   You think he was put to death because he kept quiet about his revolutionary, woman-freeing, anti religious statements.? No way.  He was killed because he railed against exactly what has evolved over time snce his demise, as being linked to his name.  Quite the irony.   He condemned with his words exactly what "Christianity" became within years of his demise, and only become worse over the centuries.

If people weren't dumb sheep, then men could not make their abudant living off controlling them, and that includes even the most benign "acceptable"  mainstream church.  Think about it.  There are as many brands of Christianities as there are men making their livings off of "teaching" their version, myriad "theosophies" within and across all denominations, and compeition or rancor among neighborhood churches that all profess the same Christ, than you can shake a stick at.  For Pete's sake,  in my 30 years wasted in that kind of nonsense, I never once attended a "Christian" service that didn't include taking up money.  Hello?    What more proof do we need that people are dumb sheep than a cursory glance at all of this nonsense all around us? 

Dr. Phil,

I watched part of "17 Kids and Counting" on TLC this week, and I was alarmed by what I believe is children whose minds are being controlled by their parents.  After seeing your show today, I believe the Duggar family does display mind control at work.

1.  The children in this family are completely isolated from the outside world.  The parents in order to promote their strict religious doctrines do not allow their children to watch television or browse the internet.  They are also homeschooled so they are not exposed to ideas outside of their parents' views.

2.  The children's sense of identity is diminished by the fact that they are one of 17 children.  There is no way each child is getting special attention when they are one of so many.  Their identity has become "one of the Duggar children"

3.  Further evidence of the control was exhibited when the children interviewed were asked their views about dating and relationships.  According to their parents, it is best not to date, but rather find the one person you are intended to marry, get engaged, and then begin the courtship phase.  Also, during the courtship, the couple does not even kiss because the parents have told them that it is best to save the first kiss for the wedding.  This constant suppression of one's natural instincts has got to be harming the children.

Dr. Phil, I worry about the children in this family, and I think your show could be a good format for investigating their welfare.  I certainly promote a parent's choice to instill their personal values in their children, but when those children are not allowed to gain any other information outside of their parents in order to form their own beliefs, I believe a line is crossed.

I was as sincere a "Christian" woman as anyone could ever have been from the age of 16 through 45.  And I never once felt at home within it.  I stuck to the basics according to the records words of Christ, but felt like an anomaly with each of the various churches/denominations I tried. I gave myself to it, genuinely loved people but received only conditional love back.  I served tirelessing on committees, pray sincerely for people, gave and never asked for anything in return, and still came to see it for what it truly is.  It's a sham for the most part and , a crutch that I don't need, and realize I never needed.  If it works for you, good on you.  But, if you open your eyes to history, you'll see that Christianity is just one of the foremost religious of this world over centuries, that has been the cause for the death of innocent people (especially free thinking women), wars, political upheaval (and not for the better) and other ignominious things.   I believe, with all I've studied and personally experienced, that this world would be ten times better without religion at all, and especially without Christianity.  I know my life is. And my family's life is.   Because, the truth set us free from all of it's nonsense and mind control. 

If Christianity were the panacea you proffer, then it is failing miserably, isn't it?   Jerks in public ministry have cast judgment on 3000 people killed during 9/11 and others killed in hurricanes.  Who the heck are these bastions of malice and hate who are held up as "Christian" leaders.    They make my case for me.  

The only love I've ever had within humanity in my 51 years has not come from professing Christians.  In fact the worst treatment, judgement, condemnation, and withholding of help has come from professing Christians.   I fnd that those who are smart enough to not submit to its mind control, or have been spewed from its midst due to nonconformity are the ones who have shown me love, joy, peace and acceptance.  I am glad to be free of its clutches, and so is my pocketbook, my healthy, my well-being,my peace of mind, and my enduring friendships.  Good riddance. 

We don't need religion, we need love and acceptance.   Religion talks about it, but it doesn't offer that.  Period.

Well, ya know, diverting attention from the heart of the matter by addressing the manner in which it is said is something that cults and abusers do.  It's deflecting and unproductive.  If you want to take issue with how someone got a point across and didn't mince words, try reading what Jesus said of the religious leaders of his time in the Christian folklore of Matthew 23.  I guess he would have been more credble if he hadn't been so forthright.  Geez....

Things that offend little usually don't educate much.  And vice versa.  It is those things which are sometimes hardest to hear, that must be said.   And if it spoils the argument it only does so for those who wouldn't have "got it" even if had been delivered on a silver platter with silk-gloved clad hands.  I'll say it again...people are dumb sheep.  Cults and the mind control exercised by religious institutions of all persuasions are the only proof that anyone needs.  (Not to say there aren't other examples, but the topic here is the mind control of religion.)

Sometimes the best way to be compassionate is to wake people up like thunder.  Even that which is recorded in the gospels of the Christian folklore has profuse examples of this in the purported words of Christ.   You think he was put to death because he kept quiet about his revolutionary, woman-freeing, anti religious statements.? No way.  He was killed because he railed against exactly what has evolved over time snce his demise, as being linked to his name.  Quite the irony.   He condemned with his words exactly what "Christianity" became within years of his demise, and only become worse over the centuries.

If people weren't dumb sheep, then men could not make their abudant living off controlling them, and that includes even the most benign "acceptable"  mainstream church.  Think about it.  There are as many brands of Christianities as there are men making their livings off of "teaching" their version, myriad "theosophies" within and across all denominations, and compeition or rancor among neighborhood churches that all profess the same Christ, than you can shake a stick at.  For Pete's sake,  in my 30 years wasted in that kind of nonsense, I never once attended a "Christian" service that didn't include taking up money.  Hello?    What more proof do we need that people are dumb sheep than a cursory glance at all of this nonsense all around us?