Topic : 02/25 Octuplets' Mom Talks to Dr. Phil

After watching this first 30 minutes of the interview, I had to stop watching it. This female has some serious issues. She does not even listen when Dr. Phil talks? How did Dr. Phil handle 1 hr with this person? LOL. Seriously though, sheesh she was talking before Dr. Phil even finished asking the question...

So Kate said it was 50 people a week with 8 kids, and she had 15 minutes a day, so this person with 14 kids its gonna be what? 70-80 people a week? and lets not even talk about the finances...

Her response was... its all baby steps...

Is it just me, but I’m totally sick of seeing this story over and over again. Like everyone else, I agree that this woman didn’t really think things through and consider what this would do to her other six kids.  Now its time for us to get pass of what Nadya did and starts thinking about those beautiful children and how we can help them.   They should be the main focus here, instead of us (society) focusing on how selfish the mother was or is.

It is time for society stop their judgments and come up with a solution here to help the children. I understand people want to help the mother by giving a cash donation, but fear that the money will be used for her own personal used and not on the children.  Again people, there’s way to go about helping these children, we just need to put our difference aside and help.

My question to everyone is:  If we are so upset with what Nadya did, where is this doctor that help Nadya? Why isn’t he being expose as well??? Honestly, in my own opinion I think the doctor should be at fault here as well. If this doctor follows medical guide’s lines, this situation wouldn’t have happen.

 

PLEASE PLEASE SOMEONE TAK ETHESE KIDS AWAY FROM THIS "CRAZY" MOTHER.

SHE SHOULD LEARN HOW TO BE QUIET AND JUST LISTEN TO DR. PHIL WHILE HE IS SPEAKING TO HER....

STEP BACK NADIA AND JUST LISTEN!!!

GIVE THESE PRECIOUS BABIES TO A MARRIED COUPLE WHO WOULD LOVE AND CARE FOR THEM AS YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO..

NO SORRY...I WILL NEVER DONATE TO SUCH A "CAUSE"..

TAKE AWAY THE MD'S LICENSE TOO !!

I work for a state DSS as an investigator.  I am so tired of people saying that the children need to be taken away from this mother.  None of these anchors or so-called therapist have gone into a home and have the children pack up their things and be removed from a parent that they are bonded with while crying hysterically.  That is the most tramatic experience for a child and parent. regardless of the circumstances. 

 

I do agree.  There are moral, value and judgement issues with this woman.  However, that is not a DSS issue and there has not in anyway been any incidents of neglect, abuse or dependency.  Those pictures of the house are nothing.  I have been in homes that I would not sit down in but it is not enough to remove children.  DSS has to go by a little phrase that dictates how social workers work.  It is called "minimal standards."  Unless the home is in such a debilitated state that it has become a health hazzard, then there is nothing a DSS can do.  And if so, then DSS has to help the family get into a better situation, not take the kids.  DSS can not remove children because of what MAY happen.  I MAY get hit by a bus when I cross the street but that does not mean that I can never cross streets due to that fear. 

 

Also, so what she is broke.  Yes, the home is in foreclosure.  Poverty does not define neglect.  And there is absolutely no abuse going on.  Abuse is cruel and tortuous punishment or sexual.  This situation would fall under neglect if anything, such as improper care, injurious environment, etc.  But it has not thus far.

 

If people have an issue with her then don't donate.  I'm not.  She is the one who has to get up or better yet never lay down due to having to care for these children not us.  Those kids will be taken care of one way or another.  People are upset about her getting food stamps and medicaid.  And?  Do you know how many people who get food stamps and sell them for crack?  They just aren't on TV and don't have a news anchor up their butt.  At least this amount of assistance will get to the kids it is intended to serve.  Whether our taxes go to this mother and her children or to a multi-dollar earmark for some senator's prostitute habit, the money will still get spent. 

 

If an issue of neglect or abuse comes up then I am sure that the local DSS will take the appropriate steps.  And here's another piece of information from a DSS insider, even if DSS finds the children to be neglected or abused that does not mean they will be taken into custody.  It is not DSS that makes that decision, the judge is the one that would order DSS to take custody and you have to show that the children's lives are at risk before they can be removed from the parents.

 

But if anyone is familiar with life at DSS, you will know that you are damned if you take the kids into custody and damned if you don't.  I am in no way defending her but rather sticking up for DSS and the social workers having to go out on reports that they can do nothing about.  Keep your head up fellow SW's!!

 

 

My comment is this I have a large family, I have 5kids of my own and,4 stepchildren. who I all love the same, if Nadya made a mistake. so what she made a mistake. I think we should all get together and help her to get a bigger house, a vehicle that is a means of transportation for all and help daytime and night. We should not judge her she had no idea she would have 8 with her history.  Now she needs help with her new babies and with the other children also.  I am donating to help and if I lived in the area I would be there with bells on to help out physically.  Thank you

Dr. Phil - I know you were trying to interview her in the hopes that public's anger would die down.  Mine hasn't.  If anything, it's worse.  I don't care if she transferred 6 embryos expecting to get one or not, she couldn't support the children she already had and SHOULD NOT HAVE EVEN BEEN TRANSFERRING ONE EMBRYO!  She cites "religious reasons" as basis for her choice of not letting the embryos go to waste.  Interesting - she must be one of those "pick and choose" religious people because I always thought God expected you to be married before you conceived children.  Aside from that, she's been divorced.  Things happen, people get divorced, and babies are born out of wedlock but don't cite religious reasons to defend 10% of your life when 90% of it is not based off of religious reasons. 

 

I'm sorry, there is just no way she can take care of 14 children by herself - or with her parents.  They are going to be neglected, one way or another.  Whether that's emotionally or physically, it's going to happen.  She claims the issue is that she is a single mother.  The issue is not that she is a single mother, the issue is that as a single mother she couldn't support her children and should not have had more.  Couples are not labeled because none have come around who are dumb enough to have children without any means to support them!  And yes, these kids were born with a job - she's in denial.

 

I do agree that we need to band together for these children but until they set up a trust fund that she CAN'T TOUCH, I will not be donating anything to help her.  I don't buy MAC makeup for myself, I refuse to buy it for her.

We desperately need to end the current welfare reward system for having more children.  It's become a way of life and a way that teens think is acceptable and justification for having children.  As soon as someone enters the welfare system, we need to tell them their monthy stipend is capped and offer incentives for sterilization.  If someone continues to have children they cannot support, we need to deem them unfit, because THEY ARE, and put the money we save from paying people welfare to have more and more children directly into our foster and adoption programs and sterilization (for men and women) instead.  Whole cultures are using this system as their preferred life plan!  They need to plan and work like those of us who get stuck paying our taxes and picking up their bill!

During the preganecy, she decided not to do the selective reduction.
Saying she only expects one baby is just  lying. She knew she was going to have at least 6 babies and she wants that to happen.

If Dr. Phil is trying to help us understand Ocotomom, he is not.  She isn't listening to him, she keeps talking over him.  I don't believe Dr. Phil is asking the right questions.  She is talking about all of her plans for school and work.  Where is she going to get the time?  Does she realize the cost of childcare and the cost of college tuition?  She is not living in reality.  You are asking your audience to do exactly what you say we shouldn't, reward bad behavior.  She should have to suffer the consequences of her decisions.  She is no better than all the other women bringing innocent children in this world for their own profit and gain.  This is really her true intentions.  With her mental instability, how can she be a good role model for these children.  I really feel sorry for the six older children, they are going to suffer more than they already have in their young lives. 

 

This show was totally worthless.

 

 

I am with you.  Nadia didn't intend to have eight babies and besides, the odds were against it even if she had hoped it would happen.  I don't think she owes us an apology at all.  Nadia was hoping for one baby maybe two and hit the lottery of odds.  Now that it is clear she wasn't trying to get rich and famous by making a bushel full of babies, can the world stop persecuting this family and move on to the important things like figuring out how to help this family in need?