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Created on : Friday, September 09, 2005, 03:43:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 09/16/05) How important do you think looks really are? And, do you think attractive people get treated better in society? Dr. Phil's son, Jay, goes out in  disguise to see if people really do judge a book by its cover. You won't believe the results, nor the response that surprised him the most! Plus, Debi favors her older daughter because she’s "beautiful" and treats her youngest like "dirt" because she's "fat and unattractive." Can Dr. Phil help her love both girls equally? And, Michelle only lets her daughter play with pretty kids on the playground because she equates beauty with success in life. Will she learn to re-evaluate her standards? Tell us your thoughts on today's show.

 

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May 31, 2006, 12:35 am PDT

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I have to say that Debi really makes me sick.  How could a mother be that way toward her child.  Every child is beautiful whether they are skinny, fat, disfigured etc..  She has damaged her daughters and doesn't seem to really care.  I have been overweight all my life.  I guess according to her and the other guests on the show, I am a low life and because of it my children aren't good enough to play with theirs.  That is a bunch of hogwash.  Just because I am not perfect according to their standards does not make me a bad person or a bad mother.  I have been depressed all my life because of people like the guests today and their hateful comments.  I never thought myself good enough or smart enough because of the negative comments I had to hear from people.  These people should be ashamed of themselves.  

   

   

 
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May 31, 2006, 12:35 am PDT

Life is what you make of it.

I'm so upset with the mothers on the show. I just can't believe how some mothers treat their daughters. I have a daughter with Perry Willy syndrome. It is a eating disorder in children.  She is also tone deaf. but it doesn't make me LOVE her any less. I am very proud of my daughter she is now in collage and has more friends than I ever had. She is my living proof  that it isn't always the body that matters but the heart in a person that make them  beautifully.  I also have 2 son that  are ADHD and Bipolar. Everyday is a challenge in our home. My oldest son is now a Senior in high school. Life will always be a challenge for him but he has learned to make the best of it . Me and their Stepfather have always tried to teach them that life is as good as you make. Stand proud and remember to treat people the way you want them to treat you. MY husband came into our lives when to 2 oldest were 7 and 5 and has treated them as though they were his own. My oldest son is a mirror image of his father. Nether me or my husband now can stand my ex-husband but I would had never though of taking it out on my son. Because he is his own person and when I look at him I only see the child I gave Birth too. My husband says all he sees is his son. Me and my husband are the parents of the youngest that is now 5 and we are teach the same morrow of life that we taught the older 2 about life.  

  

As for the mother of the 2 daughter's. She needs a lot of help because weather or not she wants to believe it  she is not only hurting Victoria but she is also hurting Hunter. In ways that she would never believe so I truly hope that she gets the help and learn of it.  

  

 
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May 31, 2006, 12:39 am PDT

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Quote From: purplepain

Your weight loss is awesome! Way to go you!!!

I'm so sorry that happened to you. It just goes to show that anyone can have a shallow mind, it's not just the pretty people.

I'm more than sure you can be loved again. You struck out on that dating site once, maybe you can give it another go?

I disagree with Dr Phil, not ALL men fall in love with their eyes...maybe most, but certainly not all.

You seem like a wonderful woman, good at your job, articulate, and the ability to lose that much weight shows a lot of character...I am not in the least worried about you or your love life. Things will come about. You know what they say, these things happen when you least expect it.

Damn....I am so sorry you ran into someone like that...not all men are jerks. Just be you, you seem like a wonderful woman...some guy out there will see that and grab you up!

Congratulations on your weight loss.  I would only be courteous and friendly when he calls, but plan no future with him.  He says he's dating others. Myself, I wouldn't waste a long distance phone call on him.  I think it's fortunate you found out his real feelings and so you can move on and find someone who will love and appreciate you.   

  

I've had some bad experiences in the past, too, before I married - some men think size 10 is fat, they want size 0.  Even when they are overweight!  Or they want someone 28 when you're 58 and they're 68!  I've observed that many people start out as friends and romance later develops. So I think it would be good if you had good activities where you are likely to meet a nice man - like church, weight watcher meetings, taking a class, volunteering at a veteran's center, etc.   

  

Unfortunately, most men have the eye problem.  Maybe Dr. Phil can educate them - but, even he married a thin, attractive woman, and writes weight loss books.  Still, he is a great man and puts on a great program.  My best wishes to you.   

 
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May 31, 2006, 12:40 am PDT

05/30 Pretty/Ugly

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I watched this show and kept thinking.... If you people think this is about your pretty vs ugly, try be dismissed because of the color of your skin.  The things that Jay went through because of a change in appearance are NOTHING compared to what I and all African Americans go through on a daily basis when people dismiss us simply because of the color of our skin.  I can't remember when the last time a white stranger looked me directly in the eye.  Or the last time the salesperson was not too busy to wait on me in a store, without me being the first to speak.  Try walking into a store and the person is on the phone having a personal conversation and continuing that conversation while you browse their store and no one else is in it.  I usally just walk out.  It becomes obvious that my money isn't good enough.
I agree that the racism is still alive and breathing and thriving. There is no doubt about it. Not only African Americans but also Hispanics, Asians at this point in time due to terrorism I have witnessed horrendous racism towards all people of South Asian descent. I never let it slide if I even catch a hint of it in a store I am very vocal about my opinions. My husband is Hispanic. His family is from Mexico City and we encounter racism on a daily basis. If we go through a fast food  drive thru in certain towns they will go get someone who speaks Spanish ( He doesn't speak one word of it) to help him!!  It will always make me sad and sometimes visciously angry. I am a white female. Sometimes I myself find it hard to understand when we get horrible customer service in a restaurant. For a recent example three white couples came in after us, ate and paid for their food before we even got ours. I of course gave them a nice piece of my mind. I specifically waited for the food, sent it back  then explained why  and why we were not paying for it too the manager. The nasty looks he receives in an all white town or even the nasty looks I get in a mostly Hispanic town!! I as a half way decent looking woman( I must say) receive all sorts of nasty and unwanted sexual attention. I see on the tv disgusting constant sexual depictions of what I consider MY woman. No matter what happens here on earth when we go to where we go we are all the same. If I needed a heart transplant and you were the only donor no matter what color you are I would get your heart because on the inside we all look  the same. Unfortunately not everybody thinks so. Unfortunately we will never live in a colorless peaceful world. I could go on and on but I will promise you one thing. I am a white stranger and I would absolutely look you in the eye. All white people are not the same. Just like all Africans Americans are not the same, all Hispanics are not the same and all Asians are not the same.  Nobody in this imperfect world is the same.
 
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May 31, 2006, 12:48 am PDT

As a man, I know how it is

I am a 41-year-old man and weigh 350 lbs. I remember the past years, especially my twenties and thirties, feeling the pain of lonliness; not being able to date and "mate" because of being fat. I began balding in my early twenties also, yet, as a seemingly cruel irony, I have too much hair on the rest of my body.

Over the years, I have learned how to deal with depression and loneliness: I eat. The truth is that eating is relaxing and highly enjoyable; yet, as long as I continue this behavior, I will never be able to lose weight.

As an adult, I practice feelings of acceptance for how I look, as yes, it is necessary to be happy "in one's own skin", but sometimes, I still yearn for acceptance, the desire to feel (and express) sexual attractiveness, and, of course, to have more social interaction.

I am not as jealous of attractive males as I once was. Thank God for maturity, as it truly works! Seeing today's show, however, shocked me, as I although I am "used to" lack of eye contact and social interaction, it was hard to see it "on screen".



 
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May 31, 2006, 12:48 am PDT

05/30 Pretty/Ugly

Quote From: carolyncms

I don't think Debi had a clue as to what Dr. Phil was trying to explain to her.  She was so wrapped up in herself and her older daughter.  Is she so dense that she doesn't realize her mistakes?  How can a mother make her child sleep on the floor?  How can she blame a seven year old for taking comfort in food?  She doesn't deserve to have custody of either of those children.   

I just want you to know not everyone is like that. I am very sorry that you are treated that way still. I think that this whole racial thing has gone on long enough and people need to wake up and realize they are no better or no worse than anyone else. I am a server at a restaruant and meet many people every day. I do not judge anyone before going to the table, now after I have dealt with them for a while and gotten to know them that is different. But let me tell you that the people that are difficult and rude and ignorant are from all races and backgrounds, not just one race and or background. Everyone needs to stop and get to know somebody before you form an opinoin about them, they could very well be the best friend you ever made in your entire life, would you trade that because of how they look?
 
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May 31, 2006, 1:00 am PDT

That is abuse

That poor little girl.  I think both children should be taken away due to abuse until the mom gets help.  I think I would rather have been physically beaten than to have someone I depend on and look up to tell me they do not love me.  At least then the scars would show.
 
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May 31, 2006, 1:44 am PDT

Poor Victoria

I was totally outraged when I saw the show about Victoria.  I have been watching Dr.Phil since the beginning and have never felt so much anger towards somebody I don't even know.  I think that mother should not have any parental rights until she seeks MAJOR THERAPY and deals with her own issues, mainly about such hatred against the children's father.  I am a mother of two beautiful kids, they can do or be whoever they choose, look however they want and I will love them UNCONDITIONALLY.  

   

I think it's wrong that she makes Victoria sleep on the floor, won't throw her a b-day party, and NEGLECTS her as much as she does.  If I lived in her town or city and watched the show today I would call Child's Services ASAP!!!!!  

   

I too am overweight, very unhappy with myself, but that's my own issues.  I am seeking help for myself but I treat my kids like royalty.  

   

Also I wanted to add, that it was very brave and couragous for the mother to go on the show like that asking for help.  I truly hope she gets the help, but I hope Hunter and Victoria don't suffer anymore.  

   

 
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May 31, 2006, 3:27 am PDT

Being pretty is better

Since I was born I was over weight, I was the fattest among my brothers and sisters , also among my cousins.     I remmember being offended when  I was seen eating.    In most of the family gatherings, My overweight was one of the main topics to be discusse.   Even in-laws were allowed to talk in such subject......My mother wasn't my support to over come my difficulty, yet , I remember her saying that I will never be married... no one will like me.    The first one who took me to a doctor to have a diet program was my grand mother.    I heard my mother complainning to my father that I eat a lot.....I was upset and thaught why didn't she confront me...why my aunt an uncle are the ones to discuss these matters with me but not her...... I  remember her saying  " take care I won't buy you good expensive clothes"  

 fortunately I got engaged and married ..... my weight was 85KG with 170cms long. I didnt look bad. My husband never told me you look horrinle you are fat .... on the contrary he says "oh you are beautiful ... you ar thinnes in this dress/suit.... you look better.....after all I like you as you are ...you are the prettiest and the kindest"  and now with my husband i care how to dress, how to wear simple makeup.... i am kean to have a nice figure ... I buy perfumes  cosmotics....etc. I never dont feal ashamed when I am with my husband ....... I always am a princess.  

 
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May 31, 2006, 3:52 am PDT

Horrible Mother

That mother who thought that her child with the skin problem and who was over weight should not be a parent.  I cried for that poor seven year old child.  This mother is abusing her child.  She may not be hitting her but words and actions are just as abusive.  Does the mother know that there is make up that the child can put on each day that will cover the blotches.  How does a mother call her child "scum".  Where is the father.  This child needs to go live somewhere where someone can love her for who she is and not what she looks like.
 
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