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Created on : Friday, October 14, 2005, 04:01:34 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/21/05) Money is often cited as the number one reason couples divorce. Dr. Phil talks with moms who say their need for cash is causing major problems. First, Andy and Lynn are newlyweds whose marriage is already falling apart. Lynn says she has to pay for expenses that her waitress salary can't possibly cover, and she has to beg her husband if she needs money. Andy says his wife relies on him for everything and he doesn't think she should get a free ride. Can their marriage withstand the pressure? Then, Alice has invented a product that she thinks will make her millions. But after putting in over $160,000 and turning their house into a factory, her husband has had enough. Does Alice have a great invention or should she just give up? Plus, two moms have a dream of opening up their own boutique, but their husbands say they both need a reality check. Join the discussion.


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October 22, 2005, 4:46 pm PDT

10/21 Moms and Money Conflicts

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I am sorry, but I have never laughed so hard in my life before. I don't know anyone who would find that product useful. What a waste of 6 years!!! The Nail 21 is the most brutal product I have EVER seen. I STILL don't understand what it does!!! Can someone please explain to me what the purpose is?

It holds nail polish bottles while you are polishing your nails. Set the bottle on flat surfaces and its easy to knock over. Some people also feel that its difficult to hold in one hand while trying to apply to the other. Try to get all the polish out and your twisting your wrist and smearing the nail.  

  

As the nail polish bottle starts to empty its harder to get a good fill on the applicator so you have to tilt the bottle in your hand anyway. The Holder holds the bottle at any angle and I have found that as the bottle gets empty this product makes it very easy to get the polish out. it does not gum up, thats from leaving it open to long. I have used 100% of many bottles with out a single spill or smudge.  

  

Similar products have and are currently being sold but they dont work as well. They dont hold all size bottles, You have to force them in and they won't tilt easy while working and some only tilt to 3 positions and none of them have an attractive apperance.   

  

  

By the way after the show I have been contacted by a lot of people that want to buy one or sell them.  Prior to the show over the past years I have spoken to hundreds of people that told me that they are always affraid of spilling the polish and that they are frustrated trying to hold it. With Nail-21 their problem is solved. We all see things different so sorry that  you dont like it but at least now you know what it does.  

 

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October 22, 2005, 4:47 pm PDT

10/21 Moms and Money Conflicts

Quote From: judyblue22

I don't like to trash someone's dream, but you couldn't pay me to have that useless gadget take up space in my house.  Polish bottles sit on a flat surface just fine.  When the bottle is getting empty, it is also stale and gummy and needs to be replaced anyway.  I know you have wasted 6 years and thousands of dollars on this idea, but my advice is to not waste another minute or cent on it.  

  

You can't justify wasting more time or money on this just because you wasted  so much already.  That is the same mindset that pulls every gambler down.  Consider it an expensive life lesson and walk away. 

You must be buying cheap polishes(????) not to mind throwing away bottles that aren't empty.  Some polishes cost up to $15 a bottle and I want every drop...if you are having a problem with polishes getting gummy...white color polishes gum up easier than others. A few reasons polishes get thick is because air, or if it gets too cold or if the bottle is left out in sunlight..... Put a few drops of nail thinner and it will be fine.   Alice just didn't explain it very well or know how to market it.  There are clients out there!!! 

ALICE...keep up your dream it is gonna pay off. 

 

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October 22, 2005, 4:53 pm PDT

marketing nail 21

I just thought of a way to market the nail 21...contact NailPro or Nails magazine and see if they will run a story on the new invention.  They have a section for new items for the industry.  Nail professionals all over the US subscribe to these magazines.also another place to find people that could use this item is at beautytech.com     

  

Good luck!!! 

 
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October 22, 2005, 5:00 pm PDT

10/21 Moms and Money Conflicts

Quote From: sparkysmom

Hi Alice, 

  

I was also thinking about your Nail21 product when I saw the show.  I think nail salons would be a good market for your product; they could have 1 or more at each station.  I personally never get to the end of a bottle of nail polish-- I'm more likely to throw it out before I get to the bottom, because it's gotten all goopy on me or I no longer like the color.  But a nail salon or spa would have an interest in getting "every last drop", since they use a lot of nail polish! 

  

Also, maybe there are other applications for your product.  Nail polish is inexpensive, so using it up might not be a big priority for some women.  But in science and medicine, there may be instances where someone needs to get every drop of some very expensive chemical.  Maybe it's in perfumery, where ingredients are expensive, or pharmaceutical labs, or, who knows?  My sister works in a lab, so I'll see if she can think of any uses for your product.  It can hold more than just nail polish bottles, I'm sure. 

  

Best wishes in your venture! 

Thanks for your suggestions. Its not so much using it up, its in the middle of polishn the nails and cant get enough out to finish, then you have to remove and start all over. Some gals do like to use the whole bottle and some folks dont like to waste. But its also about spills and holding the bottle and tring to apply it. I have had a lot of possitive feedback and some negative. The stuff thats worth listening to I will use and the trash I will throw out.  

  

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October 22, 2005, 5:15 pm PDT

Are you kidding me?

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I am wondering why there are not more messages posted about the Nail 21 segment...did anyone else DYE laughing when they saw it??? I had taped the show and was watching it later in evening and I had the pause the tape because I was laughing uncontrollably. That HAD to be a joke. No one would put that much time and effort into such a useless product...she hasn't sold a single one!!! What is up with that? Her husband needs to put his foot down ASAP! It is shocking to me that she spent a quarter of a million dollars on a product that holds nail polish!!! That was the most insane thing I have ever seen. 

First of all I have to say that I think it is awful that  you are trashing this woman's dream with your insensitive dialogue.....she came from a different country with a dream and though she did not properly research the product or how to market it.....at least she DID IT!  Her husband obviously loves her very much and showed the support that millions of women wish their own husbands would show!!  While you are laughing and being rude you might want to back up and remember that this woman is a human being and has feelings just like you do....Do you by the way live in a glass house???  Just checking....
 
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October 22, 2005, 5:22 pm PDT

Thank you...

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I TOTALLY agree that the Dr. Phil show should do some kind of work at home type show...it seems all the talk shows that do these type of shows always seem to get great ratings from what I have seen in the past so I always why they do not do them more often....Even though I already have a biz. the inspiration I get from others always seems to help me in some way....It would be nice to see some really UNIQUE work at home or business ideas that others can do or be inspired by.... 

  

Also, for all of the women with the husbands that seem to have "control" issues...kick 'em to the curb ladies! Life is TOOOOO short to deal with it! I am a former domestic abuse girl-and you can bet your butt I would never tolerate that know!!! My husband - although annoying at times! - is VERY supportive of my business both financially and emotionally and he is pretty much my best PR person...he sales the biz whenever he can. He also quit his Coporate job to stay home with our daughter so that I can concentrate on growing the biz. THAT is what you need to be successful in starting a buziness....I could not have done this without him.........(well, OK yes I could have-but it would have been a LOT harder and taken a LOT more time!!)   :-) 

  

We as women have the world at our feet and can do ANYTHING! You just have to have the confidence and strength to do it..... 

  

my life has been extremely difficult and I have never had much support.....had very little confidence..and was overall a pretty miserable person....it was ME who said enough is enough....now I could not be happier! 

  

Follow your heart girls.....it will lead you the right way!!!!!! 

  

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I just have to say that I really enjoyed reading your message....it seems as if you have really come full circle in your life and found not only happiness, but inner peace!!  Thank you for sharing that with the rest of us as I am a person STILL searching for what you have...happiness and inner peace!
 
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October 22, 2005, 5:22 pm PDT

10/21 Moms and Money Conflicts

I think that the mom working as a watiress, shouldn't have to beg her husband for money. It is his responsibility to take care of his wife. The only time that I would ask my woman to pay would be if I couldn't afford to do my job. Even then I would be out looking for a better paying job, or looking at my spending habits, to see where I can cut back.   Gotyanow
 
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October 22, 2005, 5:29 pm PDT

Andy and Lynn

Andy and Lynn are such an adorable couple; just a little confused, in my opinion.  Andy, stop with the "double standard" and just love your beautiful wife and child!  Get rid of the boat, the pricey pictures and live as equals.....Lynn is clearly trying to finish her education and is having a tough time juggling it "all!"  Help her out Andy!!  You are her husband and she needs you to be her hero!  Lynn and Andy just need to sit down and make out a budget for BOTH of them....no more double standard and Lynn shouldn't have to beg for money, BUT on the other hand she shouldn't abuse it either!  Good luck to there beautiful family and stick together through this hard time....don't become a statistic because of money and the hold that it can have on people! 

 
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October 22, 2005, 5:41 pm PDT

glad you shared

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My children are now grown and gone and even though I helped my husband get his business started and do some of the paperwork for him, he is putting me down for not doing enough since I don't have kids to take care of any more.  

I actually do work a commission job but for some reason, it's been extremely slow to the point I'm thinking I should change careers but the only jobs I can find without a degree are very low paying ones since I am starting "at the bottom."  

My husband is CONSTANTLY complaining about how hard he works and controls every thing he can with that he "earned the money" attitude and words.  

I'm almost 50 and I must "ask" his permission in order to even have people over to fish because he "made" the pond and paid for the fish... etc. If I drive "his" sportscar that he's paying for, I must tell him where I took it and make sure there aren't many miles on it - not to mention not drive it in the rain.  

Anyway, what is a "retired" mother worth anymore? Am I expected to pick up his dirty laundry no matter where he puts it becuase he doesn't want to put it in the laundry room and I'm not "working" like he said? Should I have to do "more" around the house  (which, to him seems to be cater to his wants and whims or do what he doesn't want to do when he gets home from "working like a dog" to pay "the bills around here" because I'm not making money?  

He's now saying that he "worked" and "raised the kids" etc and didn't just "quit" working like I did. (I didn't quit but I can't seem to get back to where I was -- I left this career to go to school full time but after two years, I failed a practicum and was out of the program. He knew I had a good gpa(3.4) and worked while going to school too but didn't understand why I didn't "try" harder and didn't understand why it upset me so hard to fail something I tried so hard to get through - so the fact that I now have school bills to pay has fueled his fire about having to pay for me.  

Again, what is a "retired" mom to do? I can understand justifying a stay at home mom when the kids are young but when they're gone, should I be expected to have a full time career AND do all the house stuff I did to make up for how hard he's worked?  

I find myself very depressed and have very low self esteem after the school failure and his expectations that never seem to be fulfilled.  

What makes it worse, is that he really doesn't budget well and is very impulsive in his purchases which have caused us considerable debt. He won't admit he isn't handling things well - just blames me for not working. 

I am so glad you shared your story.  It is a mirror for me.  When I read your letter I was amazed at the similarities in my own life.  I could have written this letter myself.  The pattern of behavior that your husband has shown is identical to my husband.  He is always critical and nothing ever pleases him.  There is no doubt in my mind that if you were to find a dream job tomorrow, he would inevitably find something wrong and then criticize you.   

  

I am 29 with 2 children (4 and 12 months).  I am a stay at home mother.  After 5 years of marriage I have reached my end.  I can no longer tolerate the daily onslaught of abuse.  I call it abuse because that is what it is.  My soul is wounded and I no longer trust myself.  After all I am the one that put myself in this situation.  Your letter is like a window into the future.  I know that is where I will be if I continue this marriage.  It feels like butting my head against a brick wall knowing it hurts but continuing to do it anyway.  Insanity!  However I have already made preparations to finish my education and within a year and a half I will leave my husband.  I feel very deceitful  making plans to leave him while pretending there is nothing wrong.  However my concern is no longer for him but for my children.  I will not subject them to a life of poverty.  I know what that is like.  My mother was a single mother and worked very long hours in order to provide the essentials for my sister and I.  I know what it is like to wish your mother had enough energy to play with you.  So I will continue to put on a happy face and I will endure his criticism of every little thing that I do because in a very short time I will have my identity back.  I do not have to put up with this I am worth more.  I do deserve more.  I deserve someone who will appreciate my personality and the love that I give.  I may never marry again, but that is a risk that I am willing to take.  I truly would rather be alone and happy than with him and miserable.   I know one day I will reach the point that I look back and say "why did I wait so long".  Because you see I have tried everything ( I'm sure you have too.).  This is not a rash decision, it has been a long time coming.  I knew within the first 2 months that we were married that I had made a mistake.  However, I continued to try.  I thought that if I could try hard enough things would work out because that is how life works right?  You work hard and then you are rewarded for it.  I have now learned that is true only if the thing that you are working hard at is sure to produce the results you want.  You can't grow a tomato if you plant a potato. 

  

So, again I thank you.  Please know that you have encouraged me.  I intend to print a copy of your letter to remind myself when I lose hope and think that it's too hard that I do not want this for my life.  I hope I have not offended you in speaking so bluntly about your circumstances.  But if we can be honest ,and I think we can because we are both living in the same circumstances,  our lives suck!  We may have very nice husbands but they are not nice to us and if they can't  be nice to us ( a basic human courtesy) then why should we be married to them.  I have reached this conclusion.  I don't know what is keeping you from reaching this point but I hope you will.  You sound like you are a very intelligent person, obviously you have the patience of a saint, and if you have no one else to tell you this, then let me be the one, he does not deserve you.  He doesn't deserve any one, no one should be treated this way.  Please think back before your marriage and try to remember the hope you had for your life.  Did you ever imagine your life this way.  Could that person you used to be ever endure this type of marriage.  My 23 year old self would  rather die than give up her power to man that wouldn't even respect her.  The age of 30 is a mile marker and I intend to make my mark.  I am so looking forward to turning 30.  50 is also a mile marker.  What mark will you set.  Don't make the mistake of saying oh well we've been married this long.  Americans are living longer every year.  You may possibly have 20 more years with him.  Please ask yourself 2 questions.  If he never changes if your relationship stays exactly the same, do you want to spend the next 20 years with him.  Then ask yourself If you had the chance to be truly happy, to be independent, to feel like your whole self, but it meant living without your husband, would you take that chance?  I know how it feels to live such a tumultuous life.  I know the anxiety.  I hope you find your way and I hope you finally find peace. 

 

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October 22, 2005, 6:32 pm PDT

SHARING AN IDEA

Quote From: catty_brat

No it''s not so sad for you because in the end when the wall comes falling down she will be asking for your advise again. Greedy people never prosper long something in their life goes wrong when they start to think oh why is this happening to me and then they think about all the people they have done wrong. If she was a friend a real friend she would have never done that to you but it may not come now but it will come to where she will be back at your door. You never know someone until money becomes an issue. Money is the root of all evil remember that. Good fortune will find you keep your head up to the sky.

CATTY, 

  

THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPLY, YOU REALLY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD....AND YOUR WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT MADE ME SMILE.......THANKS AGAIN FOR SUCH A GREAT RESPONSE. 

  

BELLA 

 
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